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Hope everyone's alright about that, but we can make the whole thing much bigger and better with an extra week.

We need volunteers:

Someone to set up something on Facebook

Someone to set up something on Twitter

An email needs to be sent to all the major ezines (or whatever you call them) such as Drowned In Sound ASAP.

Other stuff needs to be done I'm sure, just can't think what right now.

If you want to hear those unheard Pulp songs get involved.

 

I'm on the verge of getting that youtube video up I think,  hope it's satisfactory.



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I'd be happy to set up a Facebook page - as long as you don't mind it being fairly simple (I'm not an IT person)

Last year I set up a petition for Chris Kamara to commentate on the Royal Wedding - http://www.facebook.com/OfficialKamaraWeddingPetition - it got over 16,000 likes and was successful!

Just let me know what info you want added to it...

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Are you happy to go with your instincts?

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If anyone thinks they can manage it, it would be nice to try and incorporate the overall aesthetic feel of WLL by using green and white, the green foliage etc. From a personnal point of view I think that the photo on the back of the booklet is a great one. Lets try and make it as professional as possible!

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Facebook tends to only allow you to stay within their structure/formatting I think. The most we can get will be photos and a cover photo.

I'm willing to do it - but equally happy to stand aside for someone with greater technical abilities.............

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I'm not particularly good with Facebook etc and very rarely go on it so please feel free to go ahead. I was just thinking out loud really.

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Don't think there's anything you can do Twitter-wise other than anyone on there spreading the word

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How do hash tags work?

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I think you'd need to get lots of people tweeting with say "#pulpwelovelifepetition" in order to start trending... You would need A LOT of tweets to be noticed though...

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Due to the character limit on twitter, its probably best to keep it at #welovelife

Also, with it being a bit ambiguous, some people would probably join in without realising what it even means, yunno? More people with the hashtag and the rest of the web would explain it. if it trends, people will wanna know what its about.

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I'll send the emails to zines etc....but I want to make sure the text is good before I do!

Also, only fair to send 'em to Island, etc. too - to make them them aware of the campaign...

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We should also work out the 140 character wording for the tweet.

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Oh, and as a third thought...aren't most people (certainly UK based) going to be very busy discussing things like Ken in, Boris out/Boris still in, Ken into wilderness / Lib Dem decimations etc. on the day? I think twitter might already be very busy. Not that I'm suggesting this project should compete with mainstream news (well, duh!) but I just thought that with stuff like twitter traffic on the increase, and possibly big, big changes in London (where media types all live) we could be ignored somewhat...

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Don't worry about London

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What...generally? :)

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I think there's plenty of people on twitter who couldn't care less about Boris and Ken.

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Boris and who?? It would take a LOT of tweets to get the hash tag trending. I think the tag should definitely be #welovelife. Do we need an actual account on Twitter? I'm happy to set it up, and I can post the login info so anyone on here can post. "WeLoveLife" is not available...any other suggestions for the username? "WeLoveLifeDeluxe"? "WLLDeluxe"?

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I don't know whether it is good or useful but I was bored and procrastinating...

pulp-weloveL3.jpg



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Looks good! That could be the profile picture...

Should I make the page now? Or do we want to wait a bit?

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Nice one, Jazza!

Steve, I'd go ahead now if I were you!

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Loving the deluxified WLL sticker! With a cellophane wrapper no doubt.

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Very cool! I can try to spread the word on Tumblr but there's only a small clump of Pulp fans. I guess anything helps!

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http://www.facebook.com/welovelifepetition

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For some reason it won't let me edit the Page info yet - but when it does I'll paste in the pulpwiki petition text. I can make others admins also...

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Fuck yeah! I love it when a plan comes together!

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Is it possible to add a link on bookface to the pulpwiki petition?

 

I've only got a business account on facebook but i've 'liked' it. Continue to like it in fact...



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Duly joined. I know a fair few pulp fans who will probably do the same now

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That's looking good Steven!

If I may offer some feedback (I know it's early days so please don't take this as a dig) - where is the link to the petition? I can't see a single one on the FB page at the moment.

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That was very serendipitous Blueowl!

I'd also like to highlight my un-digging-ness.

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Ok - link added - and no offence taken (you are all very polite)

I've added Stephen as an admin to the page - in case anything needs to be change whilst I'm offline. Can make more admins if you give me your fb name.

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Have added a link to wiki on fbook page via a comment but can someone who is an admin add that link to the blurb itself?

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Can we announce that next Friday is WLL DX day? Is a Countdown timer a possibility?

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Hadn't seen yr reply when I wrote that Steven! And yes, a timer would be good. Am only on the mobile this wkend tho, but can't imagine it'd be too hard to google a free one!

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I'll look into it but I admit I have no idea how it could be done!!

If anyone else reading this knows then we can make them an admin...

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Had another idea, could we have a mini-article about one of the unreleased songs each day?

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Had another idea, could we have a mini-article about one of the unreleased songs each day?


This is a fantastic idea...what's the list of unreleased songs?

I've set up a Twitter profile, using the baritalia2007 email and pw (same login for the Twitter account).  Feel free to change the name and anything else; everything has a character limit so I tried to keep it simple.  Since most of you guys (and possibly most petition signers???) are in the UK, it might be more effective to post during peak UK hours.  Please follow, post, RT, blablabla

Oh, and if appropriate we can link the Twitter account to the Facebook page, I think...



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Thanks, I'd do it but I know there's people on here who could do a much better job of it...

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Les Roi Des Fourmis: removed.

Irritating splodge of silence between Cuckoo Song and Quiet Revolution: removed

Music quality: generally improved

 



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Very good indeed. The tone of the text is spot-on and is timed to the music fairly well.

I wonder at the end, instead of the last slide staying-up for a full minute (I know you want to have the pulpwiki.net address up as long as possible) it might also look nice with a pic of the group. It would be a good contrast to the colour-background up to then.

That shot of them in the camper van taken from the album sleeve notes which is on the petition facebook page is great. I also like this one below, taken from an NME interview prior to Leeds/Reading 2000: 

 

Being super-critical, My Mistake belongs in the ''heard by only the most ardent fans'' category, though that's more of an anorak note. And in one of the opening slides there is a capital ''C'' for the word ''contained'' when there shouldn't be but again that's nit-picking. I'm just thinking from a making it look as professional, but lovingly fan-made, as possible, perspective.



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Nit picking's good! I have an intense urge to lower that C now! My Mistake hadn't been heard by THIS ardent fan! Is it on Yahoo?!!!!??!????!?

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Ooh, indeed it is. Or should be. Lovely, slight, little two minute thing.
It was the first of the two songs that the infamous Trixy posted (After You being the other one).

I think weej or Mike would be the best people to do the mini-article thing on the songs as their Pulp song-blogs are excellent.

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That's very exciting. I've been listening to the unreleased stuff a lot recently (including apparently) that and after you are my favourites.

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Minor quibbles with the youtube vid aside, that's a sterling job, Fred!

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Are your quibbles different from Eamonn's quibbles? Do tell.

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The same, I think. Also, I thought it might have been good for people to know which song is which. 'cos I've deliberately not listened to what's been made available over the years (bar Cuckoo) and so had no idea where the other two snippets originated from!

Oh yes, and make sure the name of the video is more attractive! "Pulp - We Love Life Petition" should do the trick.

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I've got the three songs listed in order in the description underneath... I'm still working version three of the video, making bigger changes and fine tuning now I've got more time before the deadline.

Has anyone else done anything interesting?

Seems no one wants to do the mini write ups on each song... If Weej or Mike wanted to put links to their own web page under each article as a sweetener for them putting in the work I'm cool with that.

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excellent job, fred!

and i know you are still working on it, but i would like to put in my agreement with eamonn about a picture of our beloved band being a good idea at the end. :)

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Thanks Ruby Blue!

I'm actually considering a multitude of photos... can anyone point me in the direction of some decent WLL era ones? One's of individual band members as well would be cracking.

Stephen, how's progress with that email? Need any second opinions?

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Email was going to be a distillation of the various bits that have been discussed thus far. Am being hammered at work today though, so might be tomorrow before I get to pull it together.

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No bother, I'm sure you're on top of it.

Just been looking at the Facebook, all starting to look rather cool, it's already having an effect: we're up to 304 votes now.

And there's a timer! Woo! Only problem is... people won't know what WLL DX Day is, if we can get the Facebook followers all promoting the cause on Friday as well that would be epic.

Also the Twitter pages looks AMAZING but only has 3 followers, can we promote twitter on Facebook? or is that just silly? Can we follow all the people claiming to be Jarvis Cocker?

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Fred, we can follow all the people claiming to be JC, aye.

Twiggy posted the login details for Twitter above: baritalia2007 email and pw (same login for the Twitter account) which I'll try and use later to get more people involved.

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I just got a bit of a shock when I looked at twitter, I thought we had 99 followers! But we're actually following that many people - someone's been very busy, Number of followers has gone up as well so it's had an effect. Then I went on Facebook and felt like a minor celebrity when I saw my name up in lights next to the video.

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Where's the Twitter page?

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I've been busy inviting 90% of my Facebook chums to 'like' the Facebook page. If everyone on here did that, you'd all have lost five minutes of your life, but if even 50% of your Pulp fan friends (is it just me who has about 50% of friends that like Pulp?) turn up and click the buttons, it'll be a Good Thing!

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I've put the twitter and Facebook links as my signature, below this text unless you're viewing the mobile version of the site.

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Is is still the case that we should wait till Friday for the full onslaught?

I am not the expert at twitter, but is it the case that once you include a hashtag in a tweet, that tweet would appear to the hashtags followers?

If this is the case, then would it be wrong for us to tweet messages like;

"fans of @suedehq might like songs by pulp. Sign here......"

"remember when @bbc6music first played PULP demos"

These are examples, but would the follows of bbc6music and suedehq not see these messages?

 



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Oh, I didn't realize we were supposed to wait until Friday.  I thought the deadline was for Twitter.

I was busy yesterday following fans of Pulp on Twitter, most of them seemed to speak Spanish, wish I could understand them!  Also: a few mentions of Jarvis on the tube, kind of surprised he would ride the subway.  Anyway, @ mentions of people you follow do NOT appear in your timeline, you have to actually click on that user's name to see all of the posts they've been mentioned in. Unless you follow both users, then of course the tweet will appear in your timeline.  The hope is that the user that you tag might see it, though, and RT (retweet) to all of their followers. Hashtags are only useful because they become automatic search tags, and they get saved in a list of hashtags that are easily accessible later.  It's easier to get a topic trending if you use a hashtag.  So we should all decide on a specific time on Friday to tweet using a specific hashtag, and maybe we can get the topic trending in each country for a minute or two??  Honestly, I'm not sure we have enough momentum yet.  I don't think we've even convinced Eamonn to like our FB page.  wink.gif



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Done

Actually, on the official Pulp Facespace page (they're nearly up to 50,000 *likes* themselves) someone has posted a photo of a tattoo of their arm and it's the flower from the sleeve of We Love Life. I wonder could they be convinced to have "Petition@pulpwiki" stamped on their forehead...

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Twiggy, my original idea was for everyone to do stuff on a certain day, because I thought people might not get round to doing stuff if it was just a general thing to do whenever, I didn't sign the petition for the first week just cause I didn't get round to it.

It doesn't have to wait till friday if you don't think that's the best way forward (I'm speaking office speak now...)

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Have just realised a friend of mine works at Universal!! I have pointed him in the direction of the petition. He is only a small cog in the machine but it's worth a shot.

64 LIKES and counting.......

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It's not a problem twiggy, as long as people hear about the petition it doesn't matter, same end result.

Oi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHRo87Mpxw

There will hopefully/possibly be a third version before the day is done.



-- Edited by fredthe3rd on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 10:03:09 AM



-- Edited by fredthe3rd on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 10:04:38 AM



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Oops, sorry Fred! I jumped the gun. Oddly, I'm finding it difficult to get my friends to like the FB page, but most of them have signed the petition.

Is this the complete list of unreleased demos (that we know of)?
Cuckoo Song
The Quiet Revolution
Grandfather's Nursery
Roald Dahl
After You
Got to Have Love
The Performance of a Lifetime
Darren
M'Lady
St. Just
Love You Baby
Six String
My Mistake
Last Song in the World
Medieval Owl
Dream Galaxy



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Stephen, that's excellent.

Just one thing, the message contains a link to the We Love Life album page, when I think you meant to take people to the petition page itself. I've just added a prominent link on the album page, so people should find the right place in any case.



-- Edited by Will on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 12:43:30 PM

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Oi!

What's the URL of the most recent Youtube video promoting this...?

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May 4th is tomorrow! The fact just dawned on me. I'll have to get cracking on the vid. Did you ever send those emails Stephen?

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I've got the email written - just waiting for a link to a passable youtube video...and then maybe some suggestions from YOU LOT about where to send these things. I have a few in mind, but other webzine suggestions wouldn't go amiss!

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Anyone?? I really need that link and can't access youtube at work!

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well I posted the link in my thread above but if you can hold on five minutes I'm about to upload a new one.

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My word Fred, that is very quick work indeed!

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(as the actress said to Fred)

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Any changes to this, you lot...?

Hello!

Pulp fans around the world are staging a 'day of action' tomorrow (3rd May) in order to drum up interest in a reissued, 'deluxe' version of Pulp's final album, 'We Love Life'.

The songs which originally appeared on the critically acclaimed album only tell half the story of the busy songwriting and recording period which the group engaged in between 1999 and 2001 under various producers, including Walker Brothers legend Scott and long time Pulp/Pink Floyd/Beatles producer Chris Thomas

Universal Music Group, in close collaboration with the group, issued two disc deluxe versions of Pulp's earlier albums His 'n' Hers, Different Class and This is Hardcore, offering up to the world the delights of songs such as Can I Have My Balls Back Please, Modern Marriage, The Boss...and Nick Cave fronting the band on a 'pub rock' version of Disco 2000.

Songs from the We Love Life sessions such as Cuckoo Song, the Quiet Revolution and Grandfather's Nursery have been leaked over the years to much acclaim from fans, but oddities such as The Performance of a Lifetime, M'Lady, St. Just and Medieval Owl have defiantly remained in the vaults.

A Youtube video continues the story: www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHRo87Mpxw

Jarvis himself, not given to hyperbole has commented that "We could do quite a good one (reissue) of We Love Life".

So, if you like what you hear, sign the petition at http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/WeLoveLife and 'like' the Facebook group at www.facebook.com/welovelifepetition

There's even a twitter account too: https://twitter.com/#%21/WeLoveLifePULP

Although Pulp continue to be a going concern headlining festivals and venues such as the Royal Albert Hall last month, there is as yet no indication of new material. And with an album's worth of music in the vaults, this could be the closest the world gets to 'new' Pulp.

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I've been put in a youqueue: it says the vid will be here when uploaded:

http://youtu.be/wOTQ9Zk8t-c

Tomorrow is the 4th not the 3rd but it's perfect apart from that.

I'm going out now unfortunately, but hopefully the vid will appear.

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Fantastic work by the pair of you. Love the video alterations, Fred.

I emailed a couple of DJ's on Irish alternative radio shows (but both on two of the biggest stations) about it. They've both played stuff like Sunrise and Bad Cover Version on their shows before so hopefully they mention it.

Someone on 6Music would surely mention it. Lamacq and Shaun thingy possibly.



-- Edited by Eamonn on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 06:49:13 PM

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OK, I've sent this to a few ziney types. Drowned in Sound, PItchfork, God is in the TV being the main three. But if anyone can think of anymore, then please do something about it and email them :)


Hello!



I was hoping that you might find a place in your zine to run a summary of the below...



Pulp fans around the world are staging a 'day of action' tomorrow (4th May) in order to drum up interest in a reissued, 'deluxe' version of Pulp's final album, 'We Love Life'.



The songs which originally appeared on the critically acclaimed album only tell half the story of the busy songwriting and recording period which the group engaged in between 1999 and 2001 under various producers, including Walker Brothers legend Scott and long time Pulp/Pink Floyd/Beatles producer Chris Thomas



Universal Music Group, in close collaboration with the group, issued two disc deluxe versions of Pulp's earlier albums His 'n' Hers, Different Class and This is Hardcore, offering up to the world the delights of songs such as Can I Have My Balls Back Please, Modern Marriage, The Boss...and Nick Cave fronting the band on a 'pub rock' version of Disco 2000.



Songs from the We Love Life sessions such as Cuckoo Song, the Quiet Revolution and Grandfather's Nursery have been leaked over the years to much acclaim from fans, but oddities such as The Performance of a Lifetime, M'Lady, St. Just and Medieval

Owl have defiantly remained in the vaults.



A Youtube video continues the story: http://youtu.be/wOTQ9Zk8t-c



Jarvis himself, not given to hyperbole has commented that "We could do quite a good one (reissue) of We Love Life".



So, if you like what you hear, sign the petition at http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/WeLoveLife and 'like' the Facebook group at www.facebook.com/welovelifepetition



There's even a twitter account too: https://twitter.com/#%21/WeLoveLifePULP



Although Pulp continue to be a going concern headlining festivals and venues such as the Royal Albert Hall last month, there is as yet no indication of new material. And with an album's worth of music in the vaults, this could be the closest the world gets to 'new' Pulp.



Many thanks!



Stephen


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Yay, the video's up!

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Should we inform the New Musical Express and the Melody Maker about the Petition.

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Should we inform the New Musical Express and the Melody Maker about the Petition.


 I say do it, but think you might be a few years off with Melody Maker! In form the NME they love Pulp.



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Oops. Thanks, Will. Go with this, then...

And in my experience, the NME are practically uncontactable! Feel free to give it a go someone, though...

Hello!

I was hoping that you might find a place in your zine to run a summary of the below...

Pulp fans around the world are staging a 'day of action' tomorrow (4th May) in order to drum up interest in a reissued, 'deluxe' version of Pulp's final album, 'We Love Life'.

The songs which originally appeared on the critically acclaimed album only tell half the story of the busy songwriting and recording period which the group engaged in between 1999 and 2001 under various producers, including Walker Brothers legend Scott and long time Pulp/Pink Floyd/Beatles producer Chris Thomas

Universal Music Group, in close collaboration with the group, issued two disc deluxe versions of Pulp's earlier albums His 'n' Hers, Different Class and This is Hardcore, offering up to the world the delights of songs such as Can I Have My Balls Back Please, Modern Marriage, The Boss...and Nick Cave fronting the band on a 'pub rock' version of Disco 2000.

Songs from the We Love Life sessions such as Cuckoo Song, the Quiet Revolution and Grandfather's Nursery have been leaked over the years to much acclaim from fans, but oddities such as The Performance of a Lifetime, M'Lady, St. Just and Medieval Owl have defiantly remained in the vaults.

A Youtube video continues the story: http://youtu.be/wOTQ9Zk8t-c

Jarvis himself, not given to hyperbole has commented that "We could do quite a good one (reissue) of We Love Life".

So, if you like what you hear, sign the petition at http://www.pulpwiki.net/Site/Petition and 'like' the Facebook group at www.facebook.com/welovelifepetition

There's even a twitter account too: https://twitter.com/#%21/WeLoveLifePULP

Although Pulp continue to be a going concern headlining festivals and venues such as the Royal Albert Hall last month, there is as yet no indication of new material. And with an album's worth of music in the vaults, this could be the closest the world gets to 'new' Pulp.

Many thanks!

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First success!

Hey,mate ran this can do a follow up tomorrow http://www.godisinthetvzine.co.uk/2012/05/02/petition-started-to-get-a-deluxe-reissue-of-the-last-pulp-album-we-love-life/



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Wow, less than two hours. That is FAST!

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Can't seem to follow that link - might be a phone thing.

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I checked it myself and it's fine, so no worries there.

As I said, compromising photos. And the editor's a big Pulp fan (if I remember correctly!)

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Got there via a google search. Good write up, seemed to have added some of his own knowledge I think? And Jazza's mock up gets a starring role! Like the term Day Of Action Stephen.

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My public service background demands that everything is a Day Of Action if you ever want anything completing by a certain time :)

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338 signees. That's 19% up from 285 twelve days ago. Not bad going...but we need more. A 1,000 figure would look pretty good I think. Certainly 500 should be the minimum target...

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Can someone put this on facebook please? It's for the good of everyone that I don't do it cause I'd probably fuck it up, there's just something about me and facebook.



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And apologies to everyone who's watched this twice already....

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Wow, you're thinking big!

Should I email BBC Breakfast and GMTV?

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You can get details of email addys for all BBC 6 Music etc. presenters on the bbc website. Can someone please do this with the above email? I'm packing today and in meetings tomorrow...

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Beautiful, Fred. I've put this as my Facebook status. Everyone else should, too!

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Thanks! I have been eating more healthily of late. Oh the video...

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Am emailing each of the DJs with a slot tomorrow...

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Done! Lauren Laverne, Mark Radcliffe, Steve Lamaq, Tom Ravenscroft included. There's three bona fide BIG Pulp connections in the last three alone!

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Emailed XFM, hit a few forums, and promoted on FB. Tomorrow is the day of reckoning!

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I've email some stations with song requests from the album with a mention of the petition.



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Posted links to a couple of forums including Richard Hawley.

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It would but i wouldn't know who to text!

And I'm pretty sure all those Amazonians will receive an email that they've got a comment, so that's and extra 30 odd, not massive but not bad.



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Can we text into XFM and Radio 6 DJs d'you think? Certainly the Radio 6 ones all have mobile numbers given on their respective BBC websites.

Worth a go?

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The second videos on some sort of nme branded YouTube page?? http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/npHRo87Mpxw

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345 signees!

Fred, NME does that with videos...I think it's some sort of video trawler? Certainly all the ones I made for my band ended up on NME without said magazine showing us much interest!

Are the twitterers tweeting away today? I don't really know how to help in that area...

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