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Stephen


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Mark,

Am currently listening to that last 'Freaks' gig in the November...and some of the versions blow anything previous out of the water. It very much has the feel of 'the last waltz'. However, with the TSAN video being recorded by all band members on 24th October it suggests that they believe there might have been more mileage in said lineup?

Curious, anyway.

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Stephen wrote:

Mark,

Am currently listening to that last 'Freaks' gig in the November...and some of the versions blow anything previous out of the water. It very much has the feel of 'the last waltz'. However, with the TSAN video being recorded by all band members on 24th October it suggests that they believe there might have been more mileage in said lineup?

Curious, anyway.

 Then again, the band don't feature very heavily in that video do they...?



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That's fucking awesome Havenhand! (sorry that sounds impersonal but there's far too many ste(ph/v)ens on this board, confusing...)

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Seconded, Fred! Huge thanks for the (way) over-and-above dedication to the 'lost songs' cause, Steven!

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Stephen wrote:

Seconded, Fred! Huge thanks for the (way) over-and-above dedication to the 'lost songs' cause, Steven!

 No problem, thank you both.



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That's a real treat Mr. Havenhand and can I just say it's been wonderful reading your recollections these past days.

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Really nice cover Steven! Well, not really a cover as you were part of the group that regularly played that song when first written!

Some of your mannerisms actually remind me of Jarvis a bit. Your hair is much better though.

I asked Mr Havenhand quite a few questions about his time in Pulp on this forum a few years ago to which he kindly answered with lots of interesting details.

Some of the newer posters may not have seen it. Here is the thread:

http://baritalia.activeboard.com/t12872458/havenhand-on-board/



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Thanks for your comments Eamonn (& Saw119). I think that's the first time someone's said my hair looks alright in a long time. My pillow does the styling.



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'H' used to be 'Havenhand', and you were a Superstar Hero! Was that a special commendation? Like a gold Blue Peter badge?

Did you forget your password?

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I just stopped posting for a while that's all.....and then I deleted my old a/c. Was nice being a Superstar Hero though.



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Steven, thanks for the video, I enjoyed that. Regarding the lost song, I'm curious as to what stage in the songwriting process it reached. Was it abandoned before being properly fleshed out, or did it maybe get as far as being played at a gig?

Also, for the sake of tidying things up on the wiki, do you remember roughly when My Legendary Girlfriend was first played? I'd previously assumed it was during '88, but I now guess it was earlier than that.



-- Edited by Will on Monday 16th of April 2012 10:57:37 AM

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I would also presume that it would be a Sheffield show as well. So if it's after July '87 surely there are only 2 possibilities according to the Wiki; 8th August or 21st August. It's possible that MLG developed out of that style of song that the 1st version of My First Wife seems to come from, the long rambling monlogue. At least the 1st version of My First Wife wasn't wasted as it became the barebones of Davids Last Summer! Oh yeah, and Live On too.



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Stephen, Sturdy, Will and Saw... or should that be Thomson, Thompson, Tintin and Haddock?



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If we could date this review it might offer a clue:

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July 1987 at the very earliest would be factually right. I suppose it depends how much longer 'My First Wife' stays in the set for. Sounds like the second version that's being described here, too...

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Yes, that review does suggest mid-to-late '87, doesn't it? I should have spotted that.

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Sherlock, Mycroft, Sherrinford and Lestrade :)

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Compo, Foggy, Seymour and Clegg.

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On a more serious note, can we not also date David's Last Summer to about this time as well? They'd stopped playing the first version of My First Wife but the lyrics would have still been fresh in Jarvis mind and in Mother, Brother, Lover he writes that the song was inspired by a festival Pulp played in Sefton Park, Liverpool which is surely the Earthbeat Festival of the 16th August '87.

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OK, you get to be Sherrinford for that one. Sounds like a good proposal...

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I dunno, just because that's one of the events that inspired it I don't think it follows that that's when he wrote it. Surely he could have written it at any point up till and including when it was recorded.

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Can I be Sigerson Holmes?

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Stephen wrote:

July 1987 at the very earliest would be factually right. I suppose it depends how much longer 'My First Wife' stays in the set for. Sounds like the second version that's being described here, too...

 It was probably before that time. I remember it being in the set as a regular during 1987. There were a couple of gigs at The Adelphi in Hull in 1987 as well (not listed in Pulpwiki), it may have been debuted there possibly. One of them was attended by The Housemartins, I remember Jarvis told them that he was only talent in the band.......he was joking of course.



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It's at times like this, Steven, that I wish I'd been able to track you down while I was writing the book rather than about three days after I'd finished it!

Thanks for the info about the Adelphi gigs. I knew you'd played there around that period but it was one of those tidbits that I never managed to pin down when I was putting that date list together. (Most of the gig dates I got from that period were from the Sheffield Star band pages, which of coure wasn't much use for anything outside of South Yorkshire.) Were there any other out-of-towners while you were in the band? A trip down to London maybe?

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I'm wondering whether the Adelphi - as run by 'Jacko' since time immemorial would have kept records of all of these gigs? Certainly it's run as a labour as love, so perhaps posterity records when Pulp did play there...

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