I'm attending both Radio City shows and can't believe I'll finally get to see this band live. I've been looking around this forum and couldn't seem to find any discussion about what they've been playing since they've been back.
Is it really a wide spread from the entire catalog or can we expect most of the songs to be from His n Hers forward? Just really curious about what to expect. I don't really care what they play at all, I'll be elated just to be there at all but I wanted to get people's opinions on going both nights. Is it likely to be the same setlist or are they switching things up?
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Last year it was mainly different class songs, with the Gift-era singles, a few His'n'Hers songs (Pink Glove, Joyriders) and a token couple of songs from TIH and WWL. However, at the smaller gigs, such as the Australian tour or Brixton (or even Glastonbury) things got a little bit more interesting- Party Hard, Bad Cover Version, Countdown, His'n'Hers, A Little Soul, Wickerman (!!), Like a Friend. Someone on here even heard them soundchecking The Birds in Your Garden, though they never actually played it.
I'm sure there were even more songs they rehearsed which they then didn't play- I seem to remember a photo of a list of songs on their practice room wall? Where was that photo from/can anyone link me to it?
I'm hoping for a few different songs this year as they've had time to practice some new ones. However, as Russell isn't playing, I wouldn't expect them to do She's a Lady, sadly!
Didn't someone collate the number of occurrences of each song over the summer, I presume that was on here, I can't imagine where else I would have seen that, setlist.fm isn't that clever, is it?
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That 'A' and 'B' list picture is like Pulp porn. I don't remember ever seeing it before. Though - That wire runs straight throught the word 'Countdown' in the most inappropiate place!
Hoping and praying that I get to hear Like a Friend in San Francisco
I never really understood why people seem to like this song so much..I mean I think it's quite nice and catchy but maybe a bit too sweet.?
I know a few friends (outside the UK) who got into Pulp coz of this song. It was brilliantly used in Ventures Bros. Season finale climactic montage.
Two things, I don't consider the song all that sweet "you are the cut that makes me hide my face", and The Venture Bros.?
That's a cartoon right? Is it a comedy? Which season did it climax?
I fell freshly in love with Under Presure by Bowie and Queen after I watched the first episode of season two of Dirty Sexy Money.
Good use of a song on a film or TV show can really take a song up to another level. Look at Lust For Life on Trainspotting for example.
EDIT: rather remarkably the entire episode of DSM is on Youtube if anyone's interested. It's a pretty clever episode , worth watching through to the end... but Under Pressure's right at the start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1_As2eA0A
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I shall continue to live in hope. I noted they were supposed to play My Legendary Girlfriend at the Eden Project as well when I searched Pulp Wiki. Surprised that considering how important the song was in Pulp's early development that it hasn't been played too much since 1992.
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Thanks Mike, that must be it. There is a strong correlation between the two lists, what they thought at the beginning in rehearsals and what ended up being played. All of the A-team got outings every time except for Underwear, which has a ? after it. So maybe there are still some worthwhile tips in the B-team. I have heard enough musicians talking about the need to throw in the odd song they really enjoy into their standard sets to keep themselves interested on tour. In that Cambridge Uni interview the other week, they extracted from Jarvis that his current favourite is Wickerman, which only appears on setlist.fm in the 2 Brixton shows, that's not even in the B-team as far as I can see there! I suppose they are also having to gauge what kind of fans they are playing to, a mixed festival audience that might quite like them or their own show where the fans could be expected to be keener and if they aren't, then what are they doing there, that's their problem!
So back to the original question, I hope this is some help for helooksdaft, as these are Pulp shows not festivals you are going to, there looks like room for a couple of surprises between the remaining unplayed B-list songs (what about 19b Little Girl) and a complete outsider.
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That 'A' and 'B' list picture is like Pulp porn. I don't remember ever seeing it before. Though - That wire runs straight throught the word 'Countdown' in the most inappropiate place!
Maybe their demise has come and they are no longer running the world!
Or maybe it's more of demand, like "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, out, out, out!".
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Fran wrote:In that Cambridge Uni interview the other week, they extracted from Jarvis that his current favourite is Wickerman, which only appears on setlist.fm in the 2 Brixton shows, that's not even in the B-team as far as I can see there! I suppose they are also having to gauge what kind of fans they are playing to, a mixed festival audience that might quite like them or their own show where the fans could be expected to be keener and if they aren't, then what are they doing there, that's their problem!
When they played Brixton they said they'd only just tried out Wickerman a few few days previously which would account for it not being on the rehearsal lists
Like a Friend is massively popular in the states isn't it, cos it was in some crap film? Weird. American audiences are weird. Like the most popular Belle& Sebastian song in the states being Piazza, New York Catcher, for the sole reason that it references lots of American places/stuff.
Wow, surprised to see Love Is Blind on there! Would love to hear that live! I'm not a big fan of Like A Friend but if it got new people into Pulp then thats great. Personally I prefer The Professional and Ladies Man.
Also, what's the "Don't You" at the end of the list? If thats referring to Don't You Want Me Anymore I'd be very happy. Don't You Know would also be great!
I shall continue to live in hope. I noted they were supposed to play My Legendary Girlfriend at the Eden Project as well when I searched Pulp Wiki. Surprised that considering how important the song was in Pulp's early development that it hasn't been played too much since 1992.
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I'm not surprised it wasn't played at festivals last year as it's long and rambling and talky - all things I love about it, it's one of my favourites, in the Wickerman and Feeling Called Love way, 2 more of my favourites. It strikes me as less accessible to the general audience, also late 90s audiences expecting something poppier. I find it surprising that it succeeded (relative term, maybe just succeeded in attracting the attention of the NME, which is far from insignificant) as a single for the same reasons. But wouldn't it be great to hear it.
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I think MLG is great live. The old '90s live versions are very different from the Separations version (live drums and Farfisa), but the version from the Forest Tour is closer, with programmed/electronic drum beats and the string synth sounds. I'd love to hear it in NY next month! (And the Forest version proves they can do it without Russell.)
I'm not surprised it wasn't played at festivals last year as it's long and rambling and talky - all things I love about it...
I generally prefer the longer more epic songs. I suppose they could do Day After The Revolution, Sheffield Sex City, Wickerman, Countdown, Hardcore, David's Last Summer, My Legendary Girlfriend, Sunrise, FEELING CALLED LOVE, I Spy, and The Fear. That'd be a couple of hours before Common People as the encore. Only thing is there'd be less opportunity for Jarvis to ramble between songs. I could live without the poppier stuff like Mis-shapes and Disco 2000.
Hoping and praying that I get to hear Like a Friend in San Francisco
I never really understood why people seem to like this song so much..I mean I think it's quite nice and catchy but maybe a bit too sweet.?
I know a few friends (outside the UK) who got into Pulp coz of this song. It was brilliantly used in Ventures Bros. Season finale climactic montage.
Two things, I don't consider the song all that sweet "you are the cut that makes me hide my face", and The Venture Bros.?
Ok, maybe I just didn't put it right, what I meant is it's a bit too hmm=n!ug#?s you know what I mean?Well, now that I think about it it's just too bitter after all..
I can never understand why MLG is thought of as such a classic. One of the weakest tracks on Separations in my opinion. The Caff version is good, but the album version/other live versions I've heard are dulllllll. Yeah, I'd much rather hear them play Death II (which is an absolute CLASSIC, yet very rarely mentioned, definitely THE hidden gem of the Pulp back catalogue)
To be honest, especially considering the lyrical content, I was very surprised that it took them until 2011 to start playing Countdown again! They didn't even play it at that triumphant Theatre Royal show in 94!
Though what I'd really love to hear them play again is Live On....
The Boss is one that I wish they would play, as well as Death II (certainly not overlooked by me). Although the lyrical content of MLG is perhaps not so strong, there's just something about the tune which makes me think of it as a classic - but it's still not my favourite from Separations.
And since Springsteen's new album is coming out this month, AND since Springsteen has himself played the RAH (AND because Jarvis is currently very fond of regaling us all with such trivia), I'd say it's a very sensible bet indeed.
When I first heard I just though it was about the breathless energy of the song, a feeling rather than anything else. Of course it sounds nothing like The Boss himself and that always make me smile.
It would be interesting to know if they had a particular song in mind. I always put it down to the chord progression in the verses, and the way the rhythm guitar "joins in" for the last two... more of a feel or an atmosphere. But I kinda lose that once the lyrics kick in.