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Ahhhhh. It was brilliant - I agree with Stephen (can't remember if it was on this thread) that there wasn't much interaction with the audience but I put that down to him being a bit startled at how big the RAH was. He seemed to be trying to sing to everyone on all the balconies rather than focusing on the people in the arena which is fair enough (I remember I was a bit disappointed in Brixton sitting because it was more like having an overhead view of a concert - good but a bit detached, so I hope people didn't think that was the case here). I'm glad that it wasn't just a run through of Different Class and even had to pinch myself as he was introducing My Lighthouse - unbelievable!

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anyone else see or rather hear Mark's guitar fail during Disco 2000? Poor sod my heart really went out to him on that.


 Don't worry - that was when he was really getting into it and started to walk to the front of the stage but his cable didn't extend that far and so he ended up pulling the pedal along with him. The whole band, incuding him, was laughing so I don't think it was that bad smile. In fact Steve was positively laughing his head of by the end - really nice to see (sorry Tricia I tried taking a photo but my camera was out of battery)

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The audio recording I made on my iPhone seems to have turned out far better than I could have imagined. There are bound to be blips in parts and I know for certain I stopped it and started again during This Is Hardcore but it should be ok if there's no better bootleg. I'll give the whole thing a listen when I get home and get it uploaded somehow.

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Oh yeah - just to confirm Russell wasn't there (which annoyed me a lot more than I anticipated),  I guess that's why they focused more on post (and pre!) Russell songs. Still not nearly enough to stop me from enjoying the gig. 

Here is my video of I Spy - sound is a bit muffled because I had to shield the mic. It was that or a load of inaudable vibrations



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As alluded to elsewhere, given the make up of the audience, it held most people rapt even though I was probably in the minority in my area of the stalls overly familiar with Pulp, as I seemed to be with most of the TCT people, stage right.  

My wife said it was the best concert she had ever attended and was jumping around like a teenager at the end.   She couldn't believe a band could put on such a good show.  

Also, Cat's Eyes were great support, I await their new material with baited breath.

The very minor disappointment for me is they still haven't done My Legendary Girlfriend live smile



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Oh yeah, and at the end I was waiting for a setlist which they didn't have so they gave me this instead which is pretty cool smile

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A list of people born on March 31st... A crib sheet for between song references?

Did he dedicate a song to any of them?

I can imagine Jarvis being a fan of The Magus by John Fowles.

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I think it's people who were born on that day - he didn't mention any of them though

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I know your said that, I was agreeing with you biggrin



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Thinking back... I think one of my highlights was during 'Common People', Jarvis going to the back of the stage to hit his big drum for the second time, and instead of using the stick - kicked it repeatidly and then the drum falling off the back off the stage. How I laughed!

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Found this nice little vid with Jarvis, Nick and Hawley off the TCT website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LR1nJOn4I30



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Jazza wrote:

I think it's people who were born on that day - he didn't mention any of them though


 He seemed to be having some difficulty making out anything that was written on the floor last night.



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I was absolutely miles away so struggled to make out any details of what was going on, but did Jarvis fall off the stage at one point? He joked about it at the end of the song I think

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Jazza wrote:

Oh yeah, and at the end I was waiting for a setlist which they didn't have so they gave me this instead which is pretty cool smile

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Andrew Marvell! Surprised there wasn't an impromptu redndition of Coy Mistress then...



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hey people, I took these pics, https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150626898171493.377482.587906492&type=3

hope you can see them? I made them public

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I've got the end of Sunrise, some jarvis chat, beginning of This is Hardcore and my Lighthouse - I'll pop it on YouTube tomorrow.

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Loving everyone's pics and videos, mine are terrible.. LG the one of Jarv perching on the speakers is lovely. :)

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Really awesome gig last night, oved it, and a great venue.

Jarvis did tell one porkie tho... he said that 'Bird in Your Garden' hadn't been playe0 din roughly ten years, but it was played in Melbourne (I know, as it's the onyl other Pulp gig I've been to !!)

I'll let him off though as it was an awesome night :D

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I had a great time, although standing near the front, in the middle, was possibly unwise (I was a couple of people to the right of CT during the Hawley/Boring hilarity). Despite not being in the best of health I was in no pain until Sunrise, and no serious pain until some UTTER MORON decided to try and crowd-surf during Common People, knocking me nearly to the floor, and cutting my friend's ear. I swear he's the same guy who was stood behind me on the second night of Brixton, barking the lyrics out of tune (and often not even the right words) and shoving more for fun than because of the music.

Some people.

But yes. Jarvis. Pulp. Lighthouse. Etc. Yay.

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I wasn't there but wasn't Birds In Your Garden played as a soundcheck (or am I making that up?). Stephen, I think he was going to say something about people's birthdays but then everyone claimed that it was their birthday 



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Jazza, an excellent piece of memorabilia! Shame he didn't mention any of those things he'd prepared...

I got quite a nice bit, too. I'll try and take a photo later...

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Jarvis did tell one porkie tho... he said that 'Bird in Your Garden' hadn't been playe0 din roughly ten years, but it was played in Melbourne (I know, as it's the onyl other Pulp gig I've been to !!)


 

Not according to this..? http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pulp/2011/festival-hall-melbourne-australia-bd0a1ce.html

Also, I have a bootleg of that gig, Birds In Your Garden definitely isn't played, nor is it, according to setlist.fm, played at any of the other gigs on the Australian tour. I remember someone saying it was played during soundcheck, but that doesn't really count- it still hadn't been performed live in 10 years before the other night.



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Jazza, that list is the usual 'birthday' list. Odd indeed he didn't mention them. He usually does. The birthday lists for Glasto and Brixton can be found on the Pulpwiki pages...

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jdc wrote:

I had a great time, although standing near the front, in the middle, was possibly unwise (I was a couple of people to the right of CT during the Hawley/Boring hilarity). Despite not being in the best of health I was in no pain until Sunrise, and no serious pain until some UTTER MORON decided to try and crowd-surf during Common People, knocking me nearly to the floor, and cutting my friend's ear. I swear he's the same guy who was stood behind me on the second night of Brixton, barking the lyrics out of tune (and often not even the right words) and shoving more for fun than because of the music.

Some people.

But yes. Jarvis. Pulp. Lighthouse. Etc. Yay.


 I spent the entire show standing next to a couple who spent most of the time either snogging the face off each other or dancing so vigourously that I had to keep ducking to avoid being punched in the face. I spent 1 hour 40 minutes trying to edge away from flying limbs but the further I moved away the more room they had to just get even more wild with their moves. I really thought I was going to walk out of there with a black eye or a nose bleed.

Of course now I think it's hilarious! Don't drink too much before a concert kids, the rest of us can see you!



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Some nice pictures on Gigwise: http://www.gigwise.com/photos/71923/1/Pulp-rumoured-to-be-announcing-UK-tour

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I spent the entire show standing next to a couple who spent most of the time either snogging the face off each other or dancing so vigourously that I had to keep ducking to avoid being punched in the face.


 The couple next to me were like that as well! I blame all that dirty singing by Jarvis.   



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Some nice pictures on Gigwise: http://www.gigwise.com/photos/71923/1/Pulp-rumoured-to-be-announcing-UK-tour


 A lot of those pictures look like they were from Brixton



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Yes it morphs into Brixton , but there's a couple of nice ones.

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Well I've paid for tickets, hotel and transport for this but if they don't open the set with My Lighthouse I for one will be storming out...


 Ok I admit, I let them off with not opening with it and stayed to hear it later on!

My personal highlight was hearing 'Like a Friend' live. Another fantastic gig though.



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Well I've paid for tickets, hotel and transport for this but if they don't open the set with My Lighthouse I for one will be storming out...


 Ok I admit, I let them off with not opening with it and stayed to hear it later on!

My personal highlight was hearing 'Like a Friend' live. Another fantastic gig though.


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Can't believe you were non-plussed by My Lighthouse, ArrGee. Even if the early stuff leaves you cold (understandably to a point), surely you can't have but got goosebumps when the opening chords rang out?!

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Barcroft wrote:


Jarvis did tell one porkie tho... he said that 'Bird in Your Garden' hadn't been playe0 din roughly ten years, but it was played in Melbourne (I know, as it's the onyl other Pulp gig I've been to !!)


 

Not according to this..? http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pulp/2011/festival-hall-melbourne-australia-bd0a1ce.html

Also, I have a bootleg of that gig, Birds In Your Garden definitely isn't played, nor is it, according to setlist.fm, played at any of the other gigs on the Australian tour. I remember someone saying it was played during soundcheck, but that doesn't really count- it still hadn't been performed live in 10 years before the other night.


 I could have sworn they did. I must have been more drunk than I thought!! I stand corrected!



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Someone (cutcopy?) in their review of the Melbourne gig mentioned that they had heard 'Birds...' and I think Sylvia, at the soundcheck. I think the '98 live versions of Sylvia are great, it would be interesting to hear it now. Webbo could really rawk out with that solo

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yes at the Melbourne gig whilst we were standing outside in the afternoon, we could hear them soundchecking Birds in your Garden, Sylvia and Glory Days... glorious stuff!

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He's got the potential to be great. I just think Jarvis lionises Hawley too much at Mark's expense.

 Maybe not a good example but this the way I see it:

The Beatles had George Harrison. Now imagine John Lennon got Jimi Hendrix to tour and record with them.  Then onstage and in the press, John constantly gushes over him. You'd feel a bit hard done by wouldn't you.

Especially if Jimi then released a solo album that acknowledged every member of the band apart from George. cry

Now I have every respect for Richard Hawley. But I think everyone knows my feelings for Mark on this board.



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Speaking of Webber and the solos, I really loved that he was playing a slightly different solo during Sunrise. I think stuff like that helps keep things fresh...

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I also love the fact that Richard Hawley - one of the greatest guitarists of his, or any, generation - plays as the back-up guitarist to Mark Webber who, while he is good, is hardly one of the greats.

At least Russell, with his limited skills, was iconic!

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I just think that Mark is a good guitarist. Lots of people are, but they lack the unique quality to make them into truly brilliant one. It's like many people can be really great cooks...but only a few can be chefs.

I think that Russell, due to his lack of training or proficiency at the guitar (he's not brilliant and often plagirises himself) just comes across as much more interesting due to not having a template to stick to. Mark's influences are well known and obvious in his playing. Russell's less so.

That said, it is lovely to watch Mark when 'off the leash' when he starts strutting around and acting like a rock star.

However, the short-sleeved white shirt and black trousers look really did resonate with the whole "She told me that her Dad was loaded, I asked her if she'd consider investing in a fixed rate ISA" schtick.

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Jesus Christ! What someone wears onstage is just aesthetics. Since when were Pulp fans worried about aesthetics?! It's the music that's important. I think Mark looks really smart. He's wearing what he's comfortable in and shouldn't get critisisedfor that.

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Yeah, but do townies/chavs wear suit trousers? Or glasses for that matter. And could you imagine Mark delibrately getting into a fight with someone? Well could you?

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What's your argument Stephen? Is he a bank manager or a geezer? Make your mind up.

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Bankers often are 'geezers' aren't they? Shortly cropped hair, paunches, expensive but ill-fitting suits...loud and abrasive? Large parts of the private sector (anything relating to financial/insurance issues or sales led firms) generally do tend to be over-run with 'geezers in suits'.

Sarah, one of the things that appealed to me about Pulp was their dress sense. From Jarvis' outlandish garb, Candida's lovely outfits (much more lovely these days) and Russell's well fitted, crisp and austere suits. There is a charm that Mark did used to have when he was younger, fresh faced and wearing nail varnish, but glasses, short-sleeve white shirts, suit trousers and a middle aged paunch are not a good image!

I do think some of the charm still remains when he trots out from behind his pedals, though. And he *is* a good guitarist!

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Doesn't everyone's dress sense 'mellow' as you get older? Even Jarvis is hardly outlandish anymore. He's been sporting that 'geography teacher's suit' look for some years now! There's nothing wrong with it - it's just sensible. Anyhoo... Hasn't Nick been sporting this 'geezer' look for ... Well forever?!

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Nick has, yes. Bad Nick.

I think that was one of the things appealing about the Russell gigs last year. Even when most of the band were dressed more conservatively, Russell was determined to still look as odd as possible. White suits (and even a hat if I remember rightly?) all the way!

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Mark is 41. If he still dressed like he did when he was in his late 20's, I'd think there was something wrong. As for the glasses, a lot of people can't take to contact lenses.

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Sarah, I'm sure Stephen wasn't insulting Mark. But you can't deny that compared to Russell he looks more...vanilla. There's nothing wrong with that (and I enjoyed the variation in the Sunrise guitar solo) he just seems less distinctive - like you said that's normal for someone who's 41. To be honest I think Russell put everyone to shame last year - forever wearing his extravagant clothes

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Well put, Jazza! Yeah, I have nothing against Mark really, and he is fun to watch on stage, but he does lack that originality and creativity that Pulp at - to my mind - their pop peak of '91 - '93 really had.

And that's the Pulp I love!

I'm glad Russell put people to shame, although it really did look like a band with their crazy hire sideman, Russell. I liked the fact that his involvement was all clearly on his terms...

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Eamonn wrote:

Can't believe you were non-plussed by My Lighthouse, ArrGee. Even if the early stuff leaves you cold (understandably to a point), surely you can't have but got goosebumps when the opening chords rang out?!


Whilst I appreciated I was there for a song played live for the first time in nearly 30 years, I would have prefered almost anything from Separations onwards (well maybe not Death II).

Hearing Birds In Your Garden was more moving and emotional for me, but for quite personal reasons.



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'not' Death II? Disliking My Lighthouse? T'ch, you're two days late for these April Fool's, y'know...!

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'not' Death II? Disliking My Lighthouse? T'ch, you're two days late for these April Fool's, y'know...!


 I have never really found much in the Pulp back catalogue pre-Mackey/Banks of any real interest.  To me, it's two or three other bands, none of which I would have liked had I heard them at the time.  I have the three CDs but rarely listen to them.  Maybe there are a few tracks that are OK, but Death II apart, I think everything with Mackey and Banks on board is vastly superior.  



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ArrGee wrote:
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'not' Death II? Disliking My Lighthouse? T'ch, you're two days late for these April Fool's, y'know...!


 I have never really found much in the Pulp back catalogue pre-Mackey/Banks of any real interest.  To me, it's two or three other bands, none of which I would have liked had I heard them at the time.  I have the three CDs but rarely listen to them.  Maybe there are a few tracks that are OK, but Death II apart, I think everything with Mackey and Banks on board is vastly superior.  


 

Death II is possibly the most Pulpy pre His N Her track there is, why on earth do you not like it?!?



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Even 'Silence'...?!

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Stephen wrote:

Well put, Jazza! Yeah, I have nothing against Mark really, and he is fun to watch on stage, but he does lack that originality and creativity that Pulp at - to my mind - their pop peak of '91 - '93 really had.

And that's the Pulp I love!

I'm glad Russell put people to shame, although it really did look like a band with their crazy hire sideman, Russell. I liked the fact that his involvement was all clearly on his terms...


 But wasn't Mark was mostly there by 1993? He started to appear on stage towards the end of 1991.  Arguably they weren't any good until he arrived smile



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Got to say I really did think My Lighthouse sounded brilliant! I think they should revisit a lot more early stuff. Little Girl WBE, My Legendary Girlfriend...if Russell comes back once he's finished with his play, They Suffocate At Night could be epic!
Having said that, I thought the set was way too light on TIH era, tho' it was nice to hear some WLL songs which always sound better live than on record for me.
Not a particular fan of Disco 2000, Like A Friend or Sunrise, something like Lipgloss/Countdown/His'N'Hers/Acrylic Afternoons would have been ace.
But I couldn't believe My Lighthouse! Second-best moment of the reunion behind Sheffield: Sex City in my opinion.

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calumlynn wrote:
ArrGee wrote:
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'not' Death II? Disliking My Lighthouse? T'ch, you're two days late for these April Fool's, y'know...!


 I have never really found much in the Pulp back catalogue pre-Mackey/Banks of any real interest.  To me, it's two or three other bands, none of which I would have liked had I heard them at the time.  I have the three CDs but rarely listen to them.  Maybe there are a few tracks that are OK, but Death II apart, I think everything with Mackey and Banks on board is vastly superior.  


Death II is possibly the most Pulpy pre His N Her track there is, why on earth do you not like it?!?


 I just don't like it.  I'm not too worried about why.



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ArrGee wrote:
calumlynn wrote:
ArrGee wrote:
Stephen wrote:

'not' Death II? Disliking My Lighthouse? T'ch, you're two days late for these April Fool's, y'know...!


 I have never really found much in the Pulp back catalogue pre-Mackey/Banks of any real interest.  To me, it's two or three other bands, none of which I would have liked had I heard them at the time.  I have the three CDs but rarely listen to them.  Maybe there are a few tracks that are OK, but Death II apart, I think everything with Mackey and Banks on board is vastly superior.  


Death II is possibly the most Pulpy pre His N Her track there is, why on earth do you not like it?!?


 I just don't like it.  I'm not too worried about why.


 Insane!!



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So what did they have in terms of merch? I hope there's some interesting stuff at the American shows.

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So when are they just gonna play Love Love already? That'd be quite funny. :)

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Five star review and two page spread in this month's Q magazine.  Worth a read in WH Smiths.



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