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I'm still waiting for HMV to dispatch my (vinyl) It & Separations, but the Freaks remaster sounds superb (:

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Not unusual for Fire to get something wrong, the tracklisting on their reissue of Perfect Prescription by Spacemen 3 is wrong.



-- Edited by saw119 on Wednesday 7th of March 2012 01:37:25 PM

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Remember that in the Seppy booklet all songwriting credits are 'Jarvis Cocker' rather than 'Pulp' so it seems to be that reissue in particular the the Fire fairies have done their worst on.



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blueowl0708 wrote:
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Got them all now, and haven't listened to them yet, but a quick question: have they got the tracklisting on Seperations wrong? They list track 11 as Is This House? but on Pulp Goes to the Disco, where I previously had this track, this is actually This House Is Condemned (remix), with the other version called Is This House?. Pulpwiki seems to back me up as well going on the running time. Does what I've just said make any sense?!

 Without having the cds to hand, I would imagine the names on the MLG single are correct.

I'll check when I get home if nobody else has by the time I do!

 I wouldn't bet on it. Isn't the Countdown CD single mislabelled, with the radio edit and extended version swapping places?



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To be honest I hadn't listened to that track so probably would never have noticed.



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Got them all now, and haven't listened to them yet, but a quick question: have they got the tracklisting on Seperations wrong? They list track 11 as Is This House? but on Pulp Goes to the Disco, where I previously had this track, this is actually This House Is Condemned (remix), with the other version called Is This House?. Pulpwiki seems to back me up as well going on the running time. Does what I've just said make any sense?!



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liltman wrote:

They list track 11 as Is This House? but on Pulp Goes to the Disco, where I previously had this track, this is actually This House Is Condemned (remix), 

 You are correct. Oddly enough, I was going to post the same thing!



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I noticed that too. A bit odd. Chances are that the listings on the remaster is wrong, but I suppose it could have always been wrong - until now...

Does anyone have any offical line on this?

Also, when I first listened to the Seperations remaster, I realised that the left and right channels are the opposite way around to what I am used to! I previously had Seperations as part of the Pulped boxset, so this is the version I am used to hearing. The remaster sounds great, but have the channels being swapped by accident, or is this how it should be, according to the original tapes?



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You're right you know, my old version of Separations isn't from the boxset and is also the other way round! So have Fire cocked it up?

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liltman wrote:

Got them all now, and haven't listened to them yet, but a quick question: have they got the tracklisting on Seperations wrong? They list track 11 as Is This House? but on Pulp Goes to the Disco, where I previously had this track, this is actually This House Is Condemned (remix), with the other version called Is This House?. Pulpwiki seems to back me up as well going on the running time. Does what I've just said make any sense?!

 Without having the cds to hand, I would imagine the names on the MLG single are correct.

I'll check when I get home if nobody else has by the time I do!



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blueowl0708 wrote:

 Without having the cds to hand, I would imagine the names on the MLG single are correct.

 

I've got the 12" and CD. The one that is labelled as "Is This House?" has those words repeated over and over so I can only assume that it is "Is This House?" and the other has the full lyrics in some crappy robotic voice so I can only assume that it is the remix of "This House is Condemned". Therefore, it seems like the tracklisting on the Fire reissue is definitely incorrect, stating that it is "Is This House?" when it is in fact the remix.



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I'm more annoyed about them getting the stereo channels wrong now, if that is the case! How can they do such a good job in other areas and get something that simple wrong?!

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heh, fair point.. on the Countdown single, the Radio edit is just titled 'Countdown' and the Extended version is called 'Countdown Radio Edit'

I can confirm that track 11 on the Separations remaster (Titled 'Is this house?') is the 3rd track on the MLG single (titled This house is condemned).






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Argh! Well done Fire I don't think!

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sbazb wrote:
I wouldn't bet on it. Isn't the Countdown CD single mislabelled, with the radio edit and extended version swapping places?

The tracks are in the right order on the 12" version of single, but on the CD they are reversed. As a result, most discography sites list the 8 minute version as the radio edit, which is obviously silly.



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What are the booklets like inside the vinyl editions? Are they blown up versions or just the CD sized versions? I saw a copy of both Freaks and It in a record shop near me today, but I couldn't bring myself to buy them AGAIN.



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liltman wrote:

I'm more annoyed about them getting the stereo channels wrong now, if that is the case! How can they do such a good job in other areas and get something that simple wrong?!

I have it on resonably good authority that the remastering process was suprvised by Jarvis himself. Maybe the channels were the wrong way round in the first place!



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By the way, it's an odd experience to see a shelf in a high street record store full of vinyl copies of "It"!!

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Sturdy wrote:
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I'm more annoyed about them getting the stereo channels wrong now, if that is the case! How can they do such a good job in other areas and get something that simple wrong?!

I have it on resonably good authority that the remastering process was suprvised by Jarvis himself. 

 Really? A pity he couldn't be arsed to write some liner notes or provide them with more rarities.



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Eamonn wrote:
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I'm more annoyed about them getting the stereo channels wrong now, if that is the case! How can they do such a good job in other areas and get something that simple wrong?!

I have it on resonably good authority that the remastering process was suprvised by Jarvis himself. 

 Really? A pity he couldn't be arsed to write some liner notes or provide them with more rarities.

 Meeeeow!



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Really Sturdy? I was hoping you had some info, that does turn my annoyance literally on its head!

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After listening to Separations, I actually think the new version is how the stereo channels are supposed to be! All the remasters sound great

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The stereo channels on the extra tracks remain the same

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Unless you're listening to something like irreplaceable by Beyonce "to the left to the left, to the right to the right" etc why does it matter which way round the stereo is? I never pay much attention to the little L and R on headphones and it doesn't seem to affect listening if they're the wrong way round?

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