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Good work sbazb. With a name like that you're not from the land of srpski jeb are you?!

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sbazb wrote:
 The version of Manon is the same as on 'Masters of the Universe', except without the first 5-6 seconds of silence at the start that you get on 'Masters...'

I just discovered, that if you turn the volume right up you can hear a weird sound like mains hum and distortion before the vocals start. Odd! Anyway, it's not there on the remaster, which starts at the vocal, but is still detectable underneath the whole track. Dodgy noise reduction technology? Dodgy tape transfer? Maybe the only surviving version is on vinyl ...??


Yeah, I noticed that on the old MOTU version of Manon. It wouldn't be vinyl sourced as the only vinyl release of that version was the Imminent 4 comp which didn't have that bit at the start. Doubt it was noise reduction either as there's still rather a lot of noise on there! Probably a bad tape transfer as you say.

Shame they used this version though - the version on the Master... 12" single is both much rarer and much better. I did tell them!



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A shame indeed. The 12" version really should be heard by more people. It makes the song sound so much better.

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Do the sleeve notes mention where the remastering was done and by whom?

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Sorry, couldn't do it, went to HMV, couldn't bring myself to spend £10 on another version of It or Freaks (they didn't have Separations). There's so many brilliant albums out there, It and Freaks are not amongst them.

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It is me, or is the most distinguished track for the remastering actually Master Of The Universe?

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I don't notice that much difference there, actually. The guitar's still not (and never going to be) loud enough to drive the song on the off beat that it's meant to.

Btw Fred the 3rd, don't think of it as £10, think of it as three pints!

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That's a much better way to think about it.

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Definitely not worth three pints! Jesus!

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They are cheaper on Amazon! 7.99 for two and 8.99 for one of the others (i forget which, I'm waiting for them to arrive atm!)



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Arrived this morning.. woo hoo! Will get them ripped and let you know my thoughts in a few days when I've had a chance to listen properly.

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Mine hasn't arrived yet but here's some scans of the booklet for Freaks along with the sleevenotes if anyone's interested:
http://www.acrylicafternoons.com/fireremastersfreaks.html

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Bought mine from HMV today. Very nice packaging, haven't seen that Seppy centre spread before. Bit unsure about crediting all songs to Jarvis though, seems very strange. Sound wise they seem ok. Some of the Freaks tracks sound much better, Anorexic Beauty, some not at all, Don't You Know. Guess there's a limit to what you can do.

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Getting mine in town tomorrow! Great photos, hadn't seen them before (ooh now I'm really excited)

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The packaging is nice.

I've been listening to these at work. It might just be my slightly distracted/untrained ears but a lot of the tracks don't sound any different to what I already had (I have the Fire stuff on that Pulped compilation).

There's a few places where I can tell (mainly CD 2 of Freaks) - am I just being unobservant?

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I've been listening on headphones a little bit and Anorexic Beauty was almost like a different song. There seemed so much more detail in the new remaster but Don't You Know sounded same as usual; shocking! The demo for that is so much better.

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blueowl0708 wrote:

It might just be my slightly distracted/untrained ears but a lot of the tracks don't sound any different to what I already had (I have the Fire stuff on that Pulped compilation).


What??? The mastering on the "Pulped" box set is the worst I've ever heard done to anyone's material, ever! Play that and then play "Primal", "Countdown" or even one of the 1994 CD reissues and then you'll see what I mean.



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I would need a copy of said tracks to play in order to make that comparison.

I will delve into this in more detail later, but I stand by my original comments.

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I've not listened to them on headphones yet but just the beginning of 'Love is Blind' seems straight away more powerful and 3D (If that makes sense) than before. Is it just me though that the remastering on My Legendary Girlfriend highlights a quite high piercing keyboard sound in the chorus which distracted me from everything else. I'm not sure whether or not that was the case before hand - perhaps I am just noticing it now or maybe it's because I have it playing loud out of speakers when I am used to listening with headphones.

Still cannot find 'It', but in my opinion the reissues were successful and particularly like the inside of Seppy



-- Edited by Jazza on Thursday 23rd of February 2012 11:25:52 PM

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Very cool, the Freaks remaster is a recommended album on Spotify this week. (as a matter of fact, it is the most highlighted recommended album, the first one you see. Take that, Cranberries).

A shame they didn't bother to upload the artwork though, it looks a bit silly..


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I went around soho this morning and saw IT and Freaks on vinyl, but not Separations.  I must admit the timing of the release is immaculate as Pink Floyd's The Wall is ther just above the others in the racks at HMV, Fopp and Sister Ray.  



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There are reviews of these in both Mojo and Record Collector this moth and both accompanied buy one of those godawful Jarvis, Saskia, Tim Allcard promo pics. RC gives It - **, Freaks - ** and Seppy - ***, Mojo only reviews Seppy and gives it *** (the highlight of the reissues to them is the extended Countdown!). I recommend you head straight to your local WH Smith and read them in the shop just like I did.

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Definitely not worth three pints! Jesus!


 

I might have to eat my words...

Just been listening to the Freaks samples on iTunes.

 

Forgot how much I actually used to like a lot of these songs. Still think it's too gloomy in places (I think Masters especially might haver taken me to a dark place in my formative years) but there seems to be a lightness about the songs now.

Also I've just heard lyrics I'd never made out before, maybe because of muddy production.

Some choice lyrics I'd never been able to make out in the past even though I listened to Freaks A LOT!

"The master masterbates alone in the corner of your room"

and

"and that's mercy, and that's compassion, and that's being good friends in a crisis. What's one corpse between friends?"

Although they can be heard in the originals, I mustn't have been paying attention.

Am tempted to buy them now...

Just annoyed that I just bought Separations on CD for the first time just a few months ago.



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Oh, just do it! The Freaks reissue is good value with the bonus cd and there's lots of lovely piccies you've never seen before inside.

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I decided I couldn't wait till my birthday and used the fact I won a tenner checking my lucky numbers the night Pulp performed Misshapes at the NME Awards to order them all!

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