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hello, just wondered if anyone knew which version of 'death comes....is to be included on the forhcoming 'separations' re-issue? cheers.



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Don't know for sure but fairly certain it will be the mix that appeared on the Beats Working for a Living CD. Don't see why they would release a mix of a song that isn't as good as one already released.

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Hi Mark, It does seem a bit of a waste to include the already out there mix of 'death comes...I'm pretty sure that elsewhere this has all been said and discussed? So really i suppose only the 'it' re-issue has the extra whistles and bells.  I am new here but i have been reading and following for a while, thought it was about time i registered. No-one likes a voyeur do they? I do like those name designations, i just wonder how many years before i'm "200 % and bloody thirsty?? personally i'd settle for "Master of the Universe!! i wonder if there is a "Knight of Suburbia??  anyways, its good to be here and i think i'm in the right place. Regards.



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Welcome, Jason!

Not too many whistles and bells on 'It' either, sadly. They nixed our dreams of the album version of 'Please Don't Worry' and have replaced it with the Peel Session version, sadly. A real lost opportunity there.

Still....Blue Girls with Peter Boam's (?) guitars on it should be interesting!

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The Fire website does claim that Death Comes To Town is 'previously unreleased'. I don't really think it will be mix 1 though. Appearing on a bonus CD in a book about Sheffield's 80's music scene doesn't really count as a proper release I suppose. The book, Beats Working for a Living, is excellent in my opinion and well worth a read.

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Welcome, Jason!

Not too many whistles and bells on 'It' either, sadly. They nixed our dreams of the album version of 'Please Don't Worry' and have replaced it with the Peel Session version, sadly. A real lost opportunity there.

Still....Blue Girls with Peter Boam's (?) guitars on it should be interesting!


I have it on good authority that they switched Please Don't Worry for the Peel version at the band's request!

No extra guitars on the alternate Blue Girls, it's just a rougher mix with a different vocal take.



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Any indications that other unreleased material was left off because of the band and not Fire, Mark?

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Mark, you say 'band', but I can't really imagine Candida, Nick, Russell, Steve or even Mark being too concerned about what was being put out on the reissue of an album none of them appeared on!

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Eamonn wrote:

Any indications that other unreleased material was left off because of the band and not Fire, Mark?


That's all I know!



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too much competition for a forthcoming release??? Why would a band seriously be arsey about a few reissues with one or two extras that are not about - unless they have something planned themselves which they want their fans to buy.......

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I've been waiting for some 'offical' mention from the band before I preorder. I would hate to spend £30 on cd's that would never connect to PULP, payment or credit.



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too much competition for a forthcoming release??? Why would a band seriously be arsey about a few reissues with one or two extras that are not about - unless they have something planned themselves which they want their fans to buy.......


 I can't believe that a box set is in the offing. Those deluxe editions were pretty comprehensive, what could possibly be left to unearth? I find it highly unlikely that Jarvis would want to revisit the 80's stuff for a release.



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These re-issues are looking a bit half baked are'nt they? I wonder if maybe some of the delay has been because of contacting the original members? They all deserve a slice of the pie dont they? On the subject of baking are'nt these tapes being given that very treatment? I seem to remember that an engineer working on Elton Johns' old master tapes for re-mastering perfected the technique? after all those years of rewinding, fast forwarding, stopping & starting those analogue tapes they stretch & contort. apparently the subtle heat restores them to their former glory. personally i would have turned the oven on full and watched them burn. Anyways i quite like that frying bacon sound on the old vinyl issues. that said some shiny new cds to replace the old shiny cds is probly what i shall do. Well all that talk of bacon, pies & baking has made me very hungry, so i'm off for some breakfast. No image in my mirror, bye-bye....regards.

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I wasnt refering to a boxset - but maybe some new material



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Jason, I wouldn't have thought the ex-members would need contacting, no. The songs are (mainly) Jarvis' after all, and I wouldn't have thought 'performance rights' would really come into it.

As for "Why would a band seriously be arsey about a few reissues with one or two extras..." well, this seems to be what Pulp do! Given all this, it's extremely odd that the Peel Sessions came out at all!

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Yeah, in the liner notes to the Peel Sessions Jarvis mentions that having resisted attempts to release the '81 session previously, enough time had passed for him to not find the early material too embarassing anymore. Frustrating then, that he's apparently stopped Fire from dredging-up too much rare stuff. Puzzling even moreso, considering the band apparently (going by what Mark S reported) wanting Universal to put out a deluxe of We Love Life with, presumably, all manner of unreleased songs.

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It's not that puzzling in my opinion. Jarvis is obviously a lot more comfortable with people hearing what he was doing in 1999/2000 than what he was doing in 1982. Wouldn't you be?!

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Yeah but allowing the early Peel sessions to be released and more recently playing/reciting Shakespeare Rock and that other nascent effort at lyric-writing, the name of which escapes me... surely he's cringed himself dry by now.

They're his songs though so I shouldn't think we are automatically entitled to them.

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Am i also to believe that the version of "sink or swim" is the spice demo version and not the (still) unmixed version from the "it" sessions?



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Jason - from the It Sessions would be the assumption. If Fire had got access to the Spice demo, I'm sure they'd feel free to exploit it for more than one track.

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