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I found this a very interesting and perceptive read weej. When I first heard HnH's it was one of the two tracks on the album I really didn't like (Joyriders being the other naturally). However, rather obviously, and predictably, a love has grown up in my heart for this particular song as the years have passed and I have contracted a terminal case of nostalgia for those halcyon summer's the song tries to articulate. Perhaps Jarvis could only write the song once he had turned 30 as he was simply too close to those times when he wrote My First Wife?

I now feel rather pleased to have been at one of the few concerts they played David's Last Summer at.

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Frightened - http://pulpsongs.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/131-frightened/

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It's interesting Frightened. When I first heard it I thought it was simply an early version of His N Hers but they really are very close together in terms of being recorded. Frightened in Sept 93 and His N Hers in Oct 93. The band also never played Frightened live but His N Hers enters the setlists about November time. So maybe the two songs were both around at the same time? Overlapping, concurrent? I would have thought the band may have played Frightened live if it was around in early 93. If Frightened was the inspiration for His N Hers then the band turned it around in a fairly unprecedented timeframe for them. It's a bit of a mystery Frightened.

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I think Frightened has something to be said for it. The verse parts are great, and even though Weej points out that the chorus isn't really a highlight, it still works well. There are some gems amongst the throwaway lines in the second verse that are almost more 1986 than 1993 ("I took your clothes off just to see what I could find) and that breakdown section is just wonderful.

And has anyone else noticed that if you play it at half speed, you've basically got The Fear?

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I just love everything about it - how it was unheard of until the tracklistings for the deluxe editions appeared (even the Pulp Bible Truth And Beauty knew not of it, as far as I recall), and thinking that maybe it was a demo for His'n'Hers under a working title.

Certainly unfinished lyrically, and the outro jam where the group let loose may well have been removed if the song had been tidied-up and finished but thankfully it wasn't. From the synth frenzy intro throughout, it's completely absorbing and I often repeat it as soon as it finishes. For me it sits with The Boss as two wonderful slices of Pulp outpulping Pulp in their emergent pop phase. I guess it being close to pastiche may have hindered its potential.



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Got His 'n' Hers up - just a few days late, and not sure how people will react to the overloading of quotes, footnotes, blathering on about the English middle class and so on. Should be the longest entry until a certain song in the near distance.

 

If you haven't seen the compilation of live adlibs then have a look here.

 

Thanks for feedback everyone, by the way, dunno if I said before but I will save this thread and use it if I get round to polishing these entries up. I had a look at some of the early ones and they read like first drafts (which they were I suppose) - so I'd like to fix that if I find the time.



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Agreed with much of what you say. It's as harmless, weary a song as Pulp recorded with its arrangement and production being arguably more interesting than the largely listless melody and sad lyrics. It should really have been left off HnH for HnH.

Some anorak notes - it was voted as Pulp's worst song in a poll run by the official site in the early 00's and this was mentioned to Jarvis in a radio interview (I think by Gary Crowley on BBC Radio London around the time Hits came out), at which he (Jarvis) sprung to the song's defence.

 

 

 

 



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I've always thought that it was much more successful than "Happy Endings" and to be honest, I think that the album would sound odd without it there

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It's a beautiful song, very atmospheric. I agree Russell's violin style is excellent, and it reminds me of 80s Pulp which is a good thing.

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Eamonn wrote:

Some anorak notes - it was voted as Pulp's worst song in a poll run by the official site in the early 00's and this was mentioned to Jarvis in a radio interview (I think by Gary Crowley on BBC Radio London around the time Hits came out), at which he (Jarvis) sprung to the song's defence.

 


 

Do you (or does anyone) have a copy of that or a link to it? It would be really useful if and when I get around to giving these reviews a second draft.



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I think it might be this one but I've not checked: www.bbc.co.uk/london/entertainment/music/jarviscocker_interview.shtml

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Eamonn wrote:

It should really have been left off HnH for HnH.  


 

I dearly love HnH's, Your Sister's Clothes & Seconds (...and The Boss and Deep Fried the rest of the Deluxe Edition), but I have a mental block when it comes to substituting any of them for tracks that made the original release of His and Hers. Obviously this is due to my profound (over-)familiarity with the album's pacing and running order. Where do you think the track would find its home amongst the listing? 

(This struggle is faaaar harder when it comes to We Love Life - I've tried and failed to compose a playlist with a satisfactory running order for all the wonderful extras that have surfaced (and been so kindly shared by the community here) alone, before even attempting to formulate an 'alternative' running order. Cuckoo, for instance, starts so abruptly and is so different in tone to the other material that it's hard to see where it would fit. Maybe that's why it faded to obscurity, rather than dissatisfaction with the track per se, which appears to be the prevailing narrative?

[And of course, Pulp could lend a big hand here by releasing a Deluxe Edition and ending this misery...]

 



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My favourite!

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Eamonn wrote:

I think it might be this one but I've not checked: www.bbc.co.uk/london/entertainment/music/jarviscocker_interview.shtml


 Thanks for this, but I can't listen to it from China for some reason, not even with a VPN, can anyone download and rip to mp3? It looks pretty interesting.

 

Sturdy: What's the deal with the Street Lites recording session? Why wasn't Ed Buller involved? Just seems odd, though the results are great, of course.



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Never really given it much thought. Looks like that and The Babysitter were done specifically as B-sides (as with Deep Fried), so it doesn't seem that extraordinary that they were done outside of the main album sessions.

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weej wrote:
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I think it might be this one but I've not checked: www.bbc.co.uk/london/entertainment/music/jarviscocker_interview.shtml


 Thanks for this, but I can't listen to it from China for some reason, not even with a VPN, can anyone download and rip to mp3? It looks pretty interesting.

 


I've tried downloading this, but not managed it. I thought VLC player was doing it, but it just sat there for hours saying it was streaming, but it appeared to be lying. I can play it from the link with no bother, so could try "taping it off the radio" when I find my husband's gadget for such tasks, unless anyone else knows how to do this.



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Femme Fatale - and that's the end of that era. I'll be attempting to wrap it up with a best-of next week before we move on to you-know-what.



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The original is the perfect soundtrack for this rainy Sunday afternoon. Thank you for all these interesting cover versions. They are not all bad.

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That perfectly sums it up, nice one Weej. The Deutsche Group 'Propaganda' also did a cover of this which i quite like, mid eighties if i recall.



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Here it is.
www.youtube.com/watch

I don't like the drums. But the voice fits.

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Sorry, this has more than very likely been covered but didn't they start another attempt at 'Live on' for the his 'n' hers lp left unfinished? Perhaps they should have just let it out as a live e.p?  Space/Death ll/Live on/The boss?



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DEF2 wrote:

Sorry, this has more than very likely been covered but didn't they start another attempt at 'Live on' for the his 'n' hers lp left unfinished? Perhaps they should have just let it out as a live e.p?  Space/Death ll/Live on/The boss?


 Think there were a few attempts at a recording, but none seem to have worked out.



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Also, here's the end of part four post - comments, alternative tracklistings, etc are welcome over there.



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