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I've just found a picture of the old factory building on Sheldon Row, off the Wicker in Sheffield, where Jarvis (and Tim Allcard and Michael Paramore) lived in the mid '80s and various recordings were made (It / Bad Maureen demo / Sudan Gerri / early FON stuff). It's on the Sheffield Council archive page here; I showed it to Michael Paramore who confirmed it's the right place and added these annotations:

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The recording studio will be Vibrasound / Victoria. Michael adds "Tim's flat was on the top two floors of the building, we both had rooms in it, Jarvis's room was right up in the rafters, mine had a window on the wall on the left with a 'G' on it."



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Nice one Mark!

Of course, for any potential Pulp tourists, it's worth noting that the area remains largely unchanged, even to this day!

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Sheldon+Row,+sheffield&hl=en&ll=53.386839,-1.461064&spn=0.000947,0.002068&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Sheldon+Row,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=53.386839,-1.461064&panoid=x4sWDahb4n_eCMYo_tIUTQ&cbp=12,245.31,,0,3.62



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Good work, cheers!

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Stephen wrote:

Nice one Mark!

Of course, for any potential Pulp tourists, it's worth noting that the area remains largely unchanged, even to this day!

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Sheldon+Row,+sheffield&hl=en&ll=53.386839,-1.461064&spn=0.000947,0.002068&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Sheldon+Row,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=53.386839,-1.461064&panoid=x4sWDahb4n_eCMYo_tIUTQ&cbp=12,245.31,,0,3.62



Not really! The place was flattened not long after this picture was taken in '89, and is now a car park.

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Isn't that the scene you describe in your epilogue to Truth And Beauty (or Pulp's War And Peace)?

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Yep!

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Mark, I had realised that. I was just being a bit silly. I thought the multi-coloured, weird-angled office? block would give it a way. And the huge expanses of car parks.

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And here's a slightly more constructive response by using an old 50s map.

 

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That's a fantastic find, I've been looking or a picture of that for ages myself. The area around there is now completely changed, mostly due to the building of a new road, Derek Dooley Way, and the building of swanky new offices. After the floods in '07 most of the are had to be renovated due to the damage caused by the river bursting it's banks in just that spot. In fact just dug out a photo I took recently and here is the same spot now!

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Stephen - yeah sorry, I didn't actually click on your link and therefore now look like a right sillyarse. Good work on the maps.

It's quite hard to pinpoint exactly where the building was as the whole area has pretty much been flattened, and Sheldon Row used to extend quite a bit further, as saw says, across Derek Dooley Way. I think that (or this) must be about the right spot though, due to the arch you can see in the old picture. So the building where Jarvis lived was sort of on what's now the corner of Sheldon Row and Derek Dooley Way, perhaps extending slightly onto the latter.

This was taken from the other side three years later in 1992, by which time the buildings were gone.

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The view is roughly this, so basically you're standing at the other side of the block from the other old photo - the building with the flats would have been to the right, and the one with the studio to the left.

The site where I'm getting these photos by the way, which I unsuccessfully tried to link to earlier, is this one.



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Can't research it too hard whilst at work, but the overhanging walkway in your first photo Mark, would seem to correlate with the same detail on my 1950s map (halfway down Sheldon Row). Anyone interested should then be able to pinpoint that spot on the modern map (the version I copied from Googlemaps is exactly trimmed down to the 1950 boundaries).

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Stephen wrote:

Can't research it too hard whilst at work, but the overhanging walkway in your first photo Mark, would seem to correlate with the same detail on my 1950s map (halfway down Sheldon Row). Anyone interested should then be able to pinpoint that spot on the modern map (the version I copied from Googlemaps is exactly trimmed down to the 1950 boundaries).

 If you're interested if I have about 5 other modern shots showing where Sheldon Row used to stand. I can upload them if you like?



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Sturdy wrote:

The site where I'm getting these photos by the way, which I unsuccessfully tried to link to earlier, is this one.

What an amazing site. I have just spent too long hunting it for places I remember from my childhood. I found a few showing my dad's old building society office in Norfolk Row, one even shows the Leeds Permanent opposite, I remember the manager there seemed to pop in for regular chats. Saturdays seemed to consist of going to meet him in the office when he finished work at lunchtime, then being dragged round Coles or M&S for what seemed like an eternity to a small child. Though M&S food department did have these amazing change machines on the tills, so that was a compensation.

There is a plaque about Sheffield United being founded on it now!http://openplaques.org/plaques/7479 

There's some nice ones of Jessop's where I was born too, that was knocked down a few years ago, you can see the building site on google street view.

A bit off topic, sorry, but I really enjoyed it. Thanks.



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Fran wrote:
There's some nice ones of Jessop's where I was born too, that was knocked down a few years ago, you can see the building site on google street view.

A bit off topic, sorry, but I really enjoyed it. Thanks.

 The original 1850's Jessop's Hospital is still there but the extensions have been demolished but that's the University for you! So much of Pulp's Sheffield has now disappeared. When did you leave Sheffield?



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Fran wrote:
There's some nice ones of Jessop's where I was born too, that was knocked down a few years ago, you can see the building site on google street view.

A bit off topic, sorry, but I really enjoyed it. Thanks.

 The original 1850's Jessop's Hospital is still there but the extensions have been demolished but that's the University for you! So much of Pulp's Sheffield has now disappeared. When did you leave Sheffield?

 A very long time ago. 1972. My dad was promoted to head office in Newcastle. I always felt a great attachment to the city though ever since we left, especially after we left Newcastle for darkest Wiltshire. I think it was probably something to do with wanting identity, roots, something like that. I always looked forward to going to visit our family friends there. I was about 15/16 when the Human League and Heaven 17 and ABC were  at their height and that used to make give me great feelings of something like homesickness. Probably more to do with hating where I was then and it all feeling so alien. Not that I have some rosy belief that it was a bundle of laughs living through the 80s in Sheffield or anything. As an engineer, I have always been extremely proud to come from somewhere that makes things, and still does, even if it is with such a tiny % of the workforce. BTW, totally excellent rant by John Rawling towards the end of yesterday's Fighting Talk: apparently, Maggie is to get a state funeral and he had a good old go about this in general but also more specifically her terrible effect on South Yorkshire. Confused me at first as I thought she must have popped her clogs and I had managed to not notice, but no, it is just a plan for when the time comes. There's a Downing Street e-petition if you're interested, there's one for too, for the sake of balance, and an amusing 3rd one calling for it to be privatised!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2979



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I have no love for Thatcher and what happened here in the '80's so will sign that petition. I think that last one is funny, surely she would wholly support her State funeral going out to private tender in a free market economy, it should be 'de-nationalised' as she would have termed it!

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