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fredthe3rd


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What Pulp related stuff have you never heard? I've never listened to Venini for example.

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Relaxed Muscle and a lot of Steve's production work. I'm not avoiding it, I just haven't had the chance to seek it out yet.

Why haven't you listened to Venini?

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I wasn't really that aware of them at the time... Don't really know much about them now. What style of music are they? Did Russell write lyrics? Why haven't you listened to RM?

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Never listened to Venini either and although I have heard Relaxed muscle, I've never really sat down and listened to it (other than Mary, which is great) - think I was a bit put off by Sexualised which to me just sounded like Jarvis constantly stating things that are sexualised for a few minutes and seemed dissapointing compared to Pulp + his solo stuff. Maybe I'm being unfair and the time is right to give it another chance;

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Never heard Different Class either - though it's supposed to be good biggrin (this is a joke by the way ... just in case!)



-- Edited by Jazza on Wednesday 26th of October 2011 06:14:58 PM

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You should check out This Is As Good As It Gets by RM, it wasn't on the album but it's awesome!

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I bought the RM album when it came out so couldn't really compare it to the solo stuff, I just presumed Jarvis had moved on. I remember it feeling quite mysterious at the time. I couldn't say I listen to it alot but when I do I really enjoy it, Beastmaster is one of my faves. I've never heard the studio version of Le Roi de Fourmis. Is it on one of the accounts?

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fredthe3rd wrote:

I wasn't really that aware of them at the time... Don't really know much about them now. What style of music are they? Did Russell write lyrics? Why haven't you listened to RM?

It's sort of arty, vaguely French glam-rock - Suzi Quattro meets Grace Jones meets Stereolab, if that's not too overblown a claim. I LOVED them at the time, many people didn't.

Russell did contribute to the lyrics, but they were mainly from the peculiar mind of the band's singer Debbie Lime.



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Oh, and the most notable things I haven't heard are probably Jarvis' solo B-sides, with the exception of The Loss Adjuster which I like very very much.

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Apparently, I Found Myself Looking for God, and that song about the common person or something, I hear it made a little splash in the 80s?

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fredthe3rd wrote:

You should check out This Is As Good As It Gets by RM, it wasn't on the album but it's awesome!

 couldnt agree more, its quality 



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If that Venini dong had been an instrumental it would have been fuckin A! I found myself looking for God and Apparently are, for me, better than a lot of what got on the album.

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BTW, if you all wait for someone else to congratulate me on my genius title for this thread we might end up in a situation where no one's congratulated me. That would just be wrong.

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Yes, the vocals/lyrics were probably the most 'controversial' aspect. I think they have a certain something though. Here's another (non-embeddable) video:

http://www.groovybadger.com/movies/qtbig/carnival.htm

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fredthe3rd wrote:

BTW, if you all wait for someone else to congratulate me on my genius title for this thread we might end up in a situation where no one's congratulated me. That would just be wrong.

 

A bit excluding of the other Pulponians though innit?

Didn't Mark do something on an album with Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth (incidentially, Moore split up with his wife and bandmate recently after 27 or something years together)?



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Yep, I sent it to the Bar Italia e-mail. It's still on the e-mail list for bar italia 2007. (I went there looking for Srpski Jeb hahaha)

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I think I the title is "Mark's Root Remix"

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Le Roi de Fourmis: I take it that's a cover?

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Venini is so good! I can't believe some of you haven't listened to them. But they're uh...also pretty different.

I think I haven't heard a lot of Jarvis solo b-sides but I think Loss Adjuster should have been included on the album.

Steve's production work is hit or miss. Swimming by Florence and the Machine is one of the better ones imo.

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I'd NEVER listened to Venini before but this song is class!!!

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Sturdy wrote:

Yes, the vocals/lyrics were probably the most 'controversial' aspect. I think they have a certain something though. Here's another (non-embeddable) video:

http://www.groovybadger.com/movies/qtbig/carnival.htm

Phwoar...THANKS!  Never seen any live footage of them before. 

The album Russell produced for Baby Birkin is excellent as well (imo), if anyone hasn't heard it.  Can't find any clips online, unfortunately.  Would this be allowed in the yahoo account??  Just came across an interview with the singer; apparently Russell was a very harsh producer...



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fredthe3rd wrote:

Le Roi de Fourmis: I take it that's a cover?

 It's a cover of a french singer, Michael Polnareff. It was recorded in 93, I think, but not released till about 98(?). They do a live version on the 94 Black Session. However, I'd love to hear the sudio version. Does anyone have it?



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I have yet to listen to Relaxed Muscle... Never heard anything good about the album until I came across this forum!

I love Venini (my favourite Pulp side project). Although I enjoy Debbie Lime's vocals, I agree that instrumental versions of the songs would have been ace. Thanks for the "Carnival Star" video! I had no idea it existed!

As for Steve's production work, I liked some of the tracks on The Long Blondes' first album. Oh, and that song Russell played guest violin on is nice.

saw119, you can listen to Le Roi Des Fourmis here and I found a download link here. 

 



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Ah, seems like my other post has been flagged as spam for whatever reason (could it be because I've been ghosting around for so long? Or because I've provided links? A combination of both?).

I'm not going to retype the whole thing (in which I was saying that I love Venini, thanks for the "Carnival Star" video, The Long Blondes' song Russell played guest violin on is nice, I have yet to listen to Relaxed Muscle), but saw119: you can find Le Roi Des Fourmis on Youtube, it's been uploaded by RarePulp, and I'm positive it's the studio version!

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Thanks moe, I guess I'd just like to have it on my iPod! I suggest you get the Relaxed Muscle album asap it's just great fun.

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Alright, I'll make sure to give the RM album a listen then! As for Le Roi Des Fourmis, you can now find it on the Bar Italia 2007 Yahoo account.

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