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Thank you thank you thank you!

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thanks very much blue owl!! I had no idea these demos were out, what a lovely surprise on a boring thursday evening!

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If the offer's still open, I'd love to hear the Death Comes to Town/Disco session please



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Thanks so much!

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Thanks so much for these Demos! Finally Cuckoo and The Quiet Revolution in listenable versions, and Wickerman and Sunrise more vibrant than on WLL. Thanks so much.


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superchob wrote:

If the offer's still open, I'd love to hear the Death Comes to Town/Disco session please

 It is indeed:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=19WMQX28



-- Edited by blueowl0708 on Thursday 6th of October 2011 11:29:33 PM

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Island Fallout tracks (Happy Endings Demo being the interesting track here since The Boss & Watching Nicky were on the His n Hers Deluxe) were also requested via a PM, so I'll put them here in case anyone else wants.


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OC8IOWWL




-- Edited by blueowl0708 on Thursday 6th of October 2011 11:49:25 PM

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I posted the Happy Endings demo to the yahoo account a couple of months back.
How did you come across all these?

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 On the other Cuckoo is still amazing, cant understand why it wasnt on WLL.

 I think it might have something to do with the fact that it isn't strictly speaking a Pulp song is it? Wasn't Jarvis asked to rework some songs from Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music and he reworked The Coo Coo Bird and Mississippi Bollweavil Blues as Cuckoo and Cockroach Conversation. I can put the originals of those tracks in the baritalia account if there's any interest?

 

I never got the ''reworking'' thing. They sound nothing alike. Lyrical inspiration maybe at best.



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I don't seem to have a FON demo of Don't You Want Me Anymore (assuming it was on here earlier as nobody else is asking for it). Could you post that? Would be very grateful.

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I never got the ''reworking'' thing. They sound nothing alike. Lyrical inspiration maybe at best.

 I think that was actually the whole point though. That's the nature of folk music, it is actually an endlessly malleable form able to change and refelct the current concerns. I suspect jarvis did exactly what the organisers wanted. In the case of Cuckoo he definitely keeps the chorus melody line intact. As for Cockroach, well how do you transpose insect trouble blighting your life from Mississippi to London? Change the insect to a troublesome cockroach I suppose.



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I don't seem to have a FON demo of Don't You Want Me Anymore (assuming it was on here earlier as nobody else is asking for it). Could you post that? Would be very grateful.

 

Sure:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K322VE5D

@Eamonn: This is all stuff I've collected from various sources (file-sharing/trades/ebay/twarling hte web etc) over the last 10 years or so. The only stuff I've actively gotten from here were After You & My Mistake. Others may have originally been sourced here - I do not know.

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Ok, posted to 2007. Does anyone have a recording of Cockroach Conversation? It was done at the 'Touch Of Glass' gigs and that's all I think.

 Thanx for the upload. It's pretty different. I dont see much ressemblance and to me it cant justify why it was rejected. I mean on This is hardcore you get a pretty obvious sample from another song and it didnt stop them. Maybe they were unsatisfied with it.



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blueowl0708, if you ever come accross a copy of those wessex demos on cd, i'm interested.

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Interesting to hear the minor lyrical changes "just stupid" became "just very stupid" in Yesterday and made it a much better line, Wickerman, "cars to cities is better than Leeds" and saying "elecrtic childs ride" sounds cumbersome.

I'm a fan of The Divine Comedy, one of their songs Our Mutual Friend has the line "and we sang a song that I can't sing anymore" but in the demo the line is "and we sang 'The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore' " (and he actually sings that line to the tune of the Frankie Valli song) - perhaps removed for legal or artistic reasons.

Anyway back on topic: do any Pulp demoes have such major differences to any of the lines?

I read on Pulpwiki that when he did Leftovers live he added the line "a teddy bear with an erection" - which is just plain creepy.

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I'm a fan of The Divine Comedy, one of their songs Our Mutual Friend has the line "and we sang a song that I can't sing anymore" but in the demo the line is "and we sang 'The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore' " (and he actually sings that line to the tune of the Frankie Valli song) - perhaps removed for legal or artistic reasons.

 It was removed due to the fact that it would have cost him a lot of money to put that line on the record.



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I thought as much... although he then put it out as a b-side so how does that work?

I like the double meaning of "song I can't sing anymore" - can't sing it for legal/financial reasons but in the context of the song; can't sing it because it's tainted by unhappy memories.

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I'm a fan of The Divine Comedy, one of their songs Our Mutual Friend has the line "and we sang a song that I can't sing anymore" but in the demo the line is "and we sang 'The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore' " (and he actually sings that line to the tune of the Frankie Valli song) - perhaps removed for legal or artistic reasons.

 It was removed due to the fact that it would have cost him a lot of money to put that line on the record.

 

He has sung it with that line live, see his version of the song ''From The Basement'' on youtube.

I learned to play that song in the spring on a three octave casio keyboard.



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He did that version On Jonathan Ross as well.

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Will wrote:
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Someone proposed the idea a while back that on Pulpwiki we could put up a blurb at the top of the page petitioning the label for a reissue/the unreleased songs, where people can add their name and then we link it to the Pulp facebook page to get the numbers up and give Universal something to think about. Should we give that a go?

Will, it's your site, would you be ok with something like that?

Yes, I think it's a good idea. We could put some blurb about it on the wiki front page above the News section with a link to a separate page for people to sign.



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Cool. I'll try and write something for it over the weekend unless anyone else wants to have a go.



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Oh - I love the WWL demos thanks for sharing! God knows how people find this stuff as I have been actively searching for years! THANK YOU!

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blueowl0708 wrote:
superchob wrote:

If the offer's still open, I'd love to hear the Death Comes to Town/Disco session please

 It is indeed:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=19WMQX28



-- Edited by blueowl0708 on Thursday 6th of October 2011 11:29:33 PM

Thanks again Blueowl - unfortunately the link seems broken. I'll try again later in case it's a server thing. The Rattlesnake and Don't YWM Anymore demos were absolutely class in the meantime though! 



-- Edited by superchob on Friday 7th of October 2011 10:12:00 PM

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superchob wrote:
blueowl0708 wrote:
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If the offer's still open, I'd love to hear the Death Comes to Town/Disco session please

 It is indeed:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=19WMQX28



-- Edited by blueowl0708 on Thursday 6th of October 2011 11:29:33 PM

Thanks again Blueowl - unfortunately the link seems broken. I'll try again later in case it's a server thing. The Rattlesnake and Don't YWM Anymore demos were absolutely class in the meantime though! 



-- Edited by superchob on Friday 7th of October 2011 10:12:00 PM




 Hmm that was working when I uploaded.  I will do it again if it's still down tomorrow morning.



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Love the demos! Cheers Blueowl!

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blueowl0708 wrote:

 It is indeed:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=19WMQX28



-- Edited by blueowl0708 on Thursday 6th of October 2011 11:29:33 PM

 Hmm that was working when I uploaded.  I will do it again if it's still down tomorrow morning.

 I confirm this link doesn't work tonight



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