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This video of a private concert seems to be lead by Jarvis.

Do you suppose this is a song he arranged? Anyone know anything about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlTQhW8A_VU

 

 



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I don't know but I find the whole thing deeply irritating for some reason. What a waste of talent to have Jarvis there and just have him swinging his arms about. And why has everyone suddenly started getting webs tattooed on their elbows?

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Nice conducting.

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No shit conducting. I'm not having it.

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has it not got something to do with the eurostar? At work today i noticed a few pics from that party (i work in pictures on a newspaper) but i couldn't work out how to upload some! plus the agencies would probably not like it

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Launching of Eurostar Olympics campaign. It was streamed live the other day. He is indeed conducting. He composed the ambient "soundtracK" for the ad. Michel Gondry is on drums, I believe. It's an off-the- cuff performance, at least that's how I understood it, Jarvis was struggling in his French during his short introduction.

Same party, he was asked by GQ Fr  if there are any plans for Pulp to do shows in Paris and he said they hope to do something in Spring. (dunno if that's exactly what he meant or he messed up with his French).



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He said WHAT?!

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Anyone seen this?

The Making of:



-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Sunday 2nd of October 2011 10:00:10 AM



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All of this is really disgusting...

This advert looks like a big waste of money by Eurostar. While of course the price of tickets are still so expensive....

But for Jarvis this is no problem, he'll enjoy those VIP parties with all that free Champagne and just conducting crap music.... Just the name of the account, 'Glamourweb', irritate me, all that individualist world of fashion...

Of course, I can still hope something good will come from the Pulp reunion next year, but for what we saw this year it seems a big joke: they'll just stick with their biggest hits, and this will make more self-publicity for Jarvis who will enjoy more and more VIP parties. Truth and Beauty are really long gone now. We're really back in 1996 now. Hopefully Jarvis will take some cocaïn again, and perhaps do a new This Is hardcore, looks like the only solution.



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You realise Alphi already posted that Eurostar ad and everyone ignored it...

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No problem about this. I didn't knew there was a making of that ad. And seeing all the means used for a so short ad, really disgust me.

And for the performance I strongly agree with you: "I don't know but I find the whole thing deeply irritating for some reason. What a waste of talent to have Jarvis there and just have him swinging his arms about."

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Alphi, who in Pulp twisted your balls? Man, your seem to be the first one who so negative about the Pulp reunion tour.

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I have very mixed feelings about this too. I actually saw the ad on the telly last night. What most occured to me was; which other music artist of Jarvis time would do this? Liam Gallagher; no, Damon Albarn; no, Morrissey; no, Brett Anderson; no. So I have to ask myself why? Is it the money, does he really believe in the product or is he just so nice he can't say no? But I have to admit to being pissed off by art wank private parties full of talentless no-marks drinking free Champagne and acting like they're more important and oh so hip, grrr. That kind of thing really pisses me off especially when Jarvis talent would be much better focussed at a room full of his fans...like us for example.

Isn't this kind of thing the subject of Cunts?



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I don't have a problem with it, but anyway, i saw the advert whilst xfaxtor was on last nite and interestingly enough, the background music on xfactor was gloria, which as we all know shares its tune with disco 2000. coincidence?? OMMMMM!?!?!

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Anderson, Gallagher, Moz or Allbran wouldn't be asked because they don't use the Eurostar on a frequent basis and Jarvis' friendly media image fits them much better than any of the others.

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Anderson, Gallagher, Moz or Allbran wouldn't be asked because they don't use the Eurostar on a frequent basis

 How do you know? What percentage of the general public know that Jarvis uses the Eurostar on a regular basis? But ona more serious note, I don't actually understand what the advert is actually trying to sell us? What exactly are you advertising?



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What exactly are you advertising?

 cheeky!



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Eamonn is right, Jarvis was commissioned as artistic ambassador of the Eurostar last year. Please see my other trades with some photos back from 2010. He was also interviewed about this for Eurostar magazine.

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Might be going out on a limb here, but I find that Eurostar ad quite funny. Certainly no worse than when he was hanging from a lamppost for BT.

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I got nothing against the eurostar ad, certainly beats travelling around by train - having gone via eurostar to Saltzberg, Paris and Frankfurt I can recommend such holidays.

Just that party clip is irritating.

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I really don't see what the problem is with this and why some of you are getting so wound up about it?

The mans not a performing poodle, he doesn't have to reference pulp in everything he does and putting his face to something takes away nothing from the great music and moments he's been part of.



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I love seeing Jarvis on telly so have no problem with the ad except for its actual purpose. It seems to advertise nothing in particular. And I'm with fred on the party clip.

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Can't even say why it's irritating - the elitist element is only a small part of it.

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the fact that every 5 seconds it cuts to rich people sipping on champagne and wine really irritates me - the fact that nobody seems to be actually listening to the music but talking about whose yacht they should have their next cocktail party on.

not too bothered about Jarvis only conducting and can't imagine him singing pulp songs would really fit in with the event anyway. As for the advert I'm a bit confused as to why their talk about the opening of the Olympics when it's not really anything to do with them (or is it? Pulp open 2012 Olympic games...!) but in anycase Jarvis works for eurostar anyway so it's not really that big a deal

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Yeah, I was shocked when he served my meal on my last trip to Paris.

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ha if only - pay extra for Jarvis to check your tickets or serve your tea

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I travelled part of the journey by Eurostar earlier this year to see Pulp at Toulouse and Barcelona. I can't see anything wrong here, if Jarvis gains free travel, a bit of money and a glass of champagne for this then well done Jarvis. Also great to to see him on TV again, even if it is in an advert.

I do believe we are all missing the big discussion point from this though. Would the Olympic stadium benefit from a giant talking Jarvis head?



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It would benefit from Pulp playing the opening ceremony - see also my Pulp predictions. Have any come true?

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I don't get it? Is this on TV in the UK? If so, what's the point!?!
Unless you're travelling from Ashford or Ebbsfleet to London for the Olympics!
I think because it's a 2012 endorsed sponsor, it can jump on the bandwagon and use the logo to flog train seats to Europe.
Not being synical or anything!

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Wickerman wrote:

Alphi, who in Pulp twisted your balls? Man, your seem to be the first one who so negative about the Pulp reunion tour.

 Just for the record - I agree with Alphi :(



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JayJay wrote:
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Alphi, who in Pulp twisted your balls? Man, your seem to be the first one who so negative about the Pulp reunion tour.

 Just for the record - I agree with Alphi :(

 I think if Pulp re-unite for a tour, it will have to be with new material (plus the back catalouge too!)  If not, it'll be like a Status Quo type of scenario.  With more returns than Intercity!!



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You, Alphi and Danny ODonoghue.

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I can quite see why Jarvis would want to get involved in the cultural thing, which was the original reason for his connection with Eurostar, as he explains here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJBof8li3I

We took our kids to the Musée d'Orsay a couple of years ago and they really loved it, especially when they saw the Van Gogh room they had been to in an episode of Dr Who a few months later. So OK, Eurostar mght just see it as a way to sell more tickets, but that's what they're there for, they're a train company.

Now the current as for the Olympics is somewhat more surreal, but it's hardly pushing heroin on 11 year olds. Maybe it's a case of mission creep beyond the original art and culture angle. So the PR people want to have some poncey launch do for their campaign. That falls into the category of "nice work if you can get it" for me. Why not? Or are we saying that everyone who earns above the minimum wage has sold out to the corporate dollar/pound/euro? And if you want to invoke Common People, surely the point there is precisely that it's not glamorous or desirable to be poor and miserable. So Jarv gets to amuse himself doing some little musical number for a posh party. He mentioned some beat-boxing female singers that had been with Pulp somewhere in the summer on the radio a couple of weeks ago, here we go ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01551sd

The Boxettes - http://www.theboxettes.co.uk/

That's them from the party. So they get a nice bit of exposure too.

As to what Eurostar are on about, for those that are puzzled by the whole ad, it seems they want to expand the perception of their brand beyond their immediate termini of London, Brussels and Paris and engage with a wider European market (I think reading this marketing magazine article is making me go a bit funny now, using words like brand, oh dear, I'd better stop now).

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1096406/Eurostar-unveils-surreal-pan-European-TV-ad-starring-Jarvis-Cocker/



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Oh, I don't know.. on one hand: he's a grown up. let him do whatever he wants to. But on the other side.. people should take this as a bad example
of what might happen when you don't pay for music.

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Well I bought his last album twice so my conscience is clean. Technically I've paid for the song Further Complications 3 times... The main thing that breaks my balls about this is the title of the thread (sorry!), bit disappointing because no it's not really a new song, would I listen to it on my iPhone whilst walking to work? No, no I wouldn't.

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I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here (or there) just saying' that ..it's sad if
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Is he not a millionaire?

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The eurostar ad is being shown on french TV.

And If anyone's shocked about the champagne and stuff, you gotta realize that Jarvis is among the elitist people now, Not saying he's elitist but in Paris he's with that kinda circle of people. His ex wife was all that.

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To think I felt guilty last time I had a crayfish and rocket sandwich in Pret...

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I can't believe nobody is really commenting on the fact he supposedly said Pulp may do something in France next Spring!

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I can't wait for that if it is true but don't want to get my hopes up and since nothing has been officially declared...

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I know what you mean, but with that and Candida's comments the other week I'm very hopeful

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And for those of you moaning about Jarvis hanging round with fashionistas and media wankers, he was at a school in Sheffield today, he signed my mates relative's guitar and tie and did a music workshop for the kids. That's more like it eh?

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Hmm, I posted on this and it has disappeared into a black hole, said it thought I was a spammer. Maybe it was all the links I put in. A more concise version goes something like:

The original cultural angle that got Jarvis involved with Eurostar seems totally logical to me (look for Eurostar Jarvis on Youtube, there's a couple of interviews in St Pancras with loads of kids doing paintings). He's always up for promoting arts and culture and what have you. And he must spend half his life on it these days. We took our kids round the Musee d'Orsay a couple of summers ago and they loved it, even more so when they saw one of the very rooms they had been in on the Van Gogh episode of Dr Who a few months later.

While the current ad is a bit more surreal, it's quite amusing. Maybe it's all part of a bigger contract or something that came out of the original thing. As for getting paid actual money, shock, horror, everyone does that, given the chance of decent employment. If you want to invoke Common People, surely the point is precisely that it's not glamorous and desirable to be poor. And so Eurostar just want to sell more tickets, but all commerce is surely not of itself inherently evil, whatever impression you might get from the purists.

As liltman says, the posh corporate dos aren't the only world he inhabits, reminds me of a bit of Kipling's If:

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much: .......



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i'm not shocked by the eurostar ad at all really. It's not like its the devilish company, it's just trains...

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Ahhh, that's very interesting liltman. Remember they had a rehearsal room set up in Sheffield for months. Maybe they're back at a little bit of work? There are certainly plenty of studios here in Sheffield at the moment. Fran, I tend to agree actually. I'm all for the man pushing more cultural and artistic events, it was the audience he was doing it for that most got up my nose. Not the work, or the comission but the audience at that party. The ad is ok but fails in its purpose for me. I just don't know what it's advertising and who those two other blokes are and what they represent etc.

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liltman wrote:

And for those of you moaning about Jarvis hanging round with fashionistas and media wankers, he was at a school in Sheffield today, he signed my mates relative's guitar and tie and did a music workshop for the kids. That's more like it eh?

 Lovely account of this here:

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For me the advert is saying: kill two birds with one stone, have a business meeting on the train.

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Thanks Deborah thats excellent. I was wondering why he wasn't making an appearance at the literary festival here in Sheffield which is running at the moment. It seems doubly confusing now he's just done a presentation at his old school, so he was in town! Will anybody be recording hsi talks at Cheltenham or Manchester? Wouldn't it be nice to have a recording of Shakespeare Rock?

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I went to the same school as Neil Tennant, Sting and Dec from Ant and Dec. Did any of them ever come and give an inspirational talk? No, no they didn't. Although Neil Tennants talk would have been along the lines: "for those of you sitting here now who happen to be gay... Don't worry, you won't actually go to hell, just ignore the teachers when they say that."

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"The youngsters were treated to an hour-long presentation capturing the excitement of the young performer's teenage years, including home movies, photos, lyrics and some of Jarviss earliest songs.

Long-forgotten efforts Shakespeare Rock and Life Is A Circle were unearthed, with a full acoustic version of Pulp's breakthrough number, Babies."

Brilliant! Did the kids know what they were getting? Do you reckon he showed the Shakespeare Rock film? And what's this about "Life Is A Circle"?



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Try clicking more then edit then advanced editor, ten click on the underlined A next to font family. Everyone else: highlight the paragraph and you can read it.



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Actually:
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"The youngsters were treated to an hour-long presentation capturing the excitement of the young performer's teenage years, including home movies, photos, lyrics and some of Jarviss earliest songs.

Long-forgotten efforts Shakespeare Rock and Life Is A Circle were unearthed, with a full acoustic version of Pulp's breakthrough number, Babies."

Brilliant! Did the kids know what they were getting? Do you reckon he showed the Shakespeare Rock film? And what's this about "Life Is A Circle"?

 



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I went to the same school as Neil Tennant, Sting and Dec from Ant and Dec. Did any of them ever come and give an inspirational talk? No, no they didn't. Although Neil Tennants talk would have been along the lines: "for those of you sitting here now who happen to be gay... Don't worry, you won't actually go to hell, just ignore the teachers when they say that."

 

st cuthbert's? my cousins go there!



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Fuckin A! Well... potentially A. Did they experience the horror of the old lower school? Or did they time it nicely and get into the new lower school this year?

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I haven't a clue, if the new one is from this year they will have experienced "the horror" of the old school

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Anyone else think that "Got To Have Love" has a smattering of "Anorexic Beauty" in it somewhere?

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Fran, I tend to agree actually. I'm all for the man pushing more cultural and artistic events, it was the audience he was doing it for that most got up my nose. Not the work, or the comission but the audience at that party. The ad is ok but fails in its purpose for me. I just don't know what it's advertising and who those two other blokes are and what they represent etc.

 Yes I know what you mean, I wasn't standing up for the ad itself. If we care, according to something I read, the other two are apparently a famous French bloke and a famous Belgian who isn't Tintin, Hercule Poirot or even Plastique Bertrand. So it's meant to represent Eurostar's destination countries I think. But I imagine people in all 3 countries are going "Who are those other two?"

As for the people supping the wine, their loss really if they can't be bothered to pay attention, and spot the Boxettes in the background too. I remember Jarvis playing something by a group of female beat-boxers on the radio the other week, said they had been doing backing vocals for them this summer somewhere. So I looked up the tracklist and found their website http://www.theboxettes.co.uk/.



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weej wrote:

And why is my writing all dark grey?

 Part of mine went dark grey when I pasted something in from t'internet.



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aanyway Fred, funny you should say that none of them came back because turns out Ant and Dec were doing the prize giving yesterday. They're all going back to school this week!

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What prize giving??

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giving out prizes to people that have stood out in a subject (usually, and rather disapointingly, it's a textbook and a certificate but sometimes you get vouchers or maybe free music lessons etc.) course now everything has become so ridiculous thatin some places there is a law that everyone has to get a prize, thus defeating the whole purpose of congratulating hard working students who deserve to be recognised, and so there are prize for having no detentions and other pathetic things that should be normal not celebrated.

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