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The Beat Is The Law In-Store Screening with special Pulp guest

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Friday, September 23 · 6:30pm - 9:30pm
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We hope you can come to a unique screening of The Beat Is The Law in London's fantastic Rough Trade East Shop. After the screening, Candida Doyle from Pulp and the film's director, Eve Wood, will be answering questions and providing a female view of the world of pop and film - Let The Women Speak! At the shop you will be able to purchase the critically acclaimed The Beat Is The Law DVD together with a free (hopefully signed) film poster. The ladies hope to see you there. xxx
http://www.roughtrade.com/site/instore.lasso


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Fantastic! Who will be the Bar Italia correspondant (female, obviously)?

 

Oh, and less of the americanizing of the date format please, Twiggy wink



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biggrin.gif I just copied it from Facebook! 

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I'm really looking forward to this. Thanks for putting it on here or I'd never have known.

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Answering questions? Can someone please ask about a US tour? :(

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Anyone go to this?

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No I went to see Paul Daniels instead... I liked it!

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Candida or Daniels....come on. He just talks nonce sense.

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Candida would have probably fallen for that if they'd asked her...

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She was very lovely tonight!

I asked whether Pulp were doing anything in the future and she coyly answered that they're all keeping radio silence about it... and that she'd probably be shot if she said anything more! So that sounds positive... it's not a no!

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Nice, anything else of interest?

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I'm trying hard to remember - it's all a happy blur! The Q&A was pretty focused on the documentary really, and about how hard the 80s Sheffield bands had to fight to be heard. The director and Candida talked quite a bit about whether bands have it easier or harder these days, with internet promotion and the like.

She did talk a lot about the recent tour, actually, and how that came to be. She said (and I can't remember whether this was said in the Lamaq interview or not) that Jarvis rang around last July and there was a general fear/hesitation to begin with, so they all agreed to meet up.... then they agreed to rehearse 5 songs, and see how they went... and then they did a few more... and it gradually grew out of that!

She said they were all really nervous at first, and that the first few shows in particular were nerve-wracking, like being rabbits in the headlights. She was asked about Russell's involvement, and she scoffed a bit at how he was refusing to fly! Apparently he also refuses to sleep less than 500 feet above sea level (I think I've remembered that right) in case of tsunami's! ;)

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Radio silence- tactical secrecy. It sounds more than promising to me!

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Well boys and girls.....picture this - the intro that Pulp used at concerts was recorded - it was brand new, never heard before - so that HAVE recorded something. QUESTION REMAINS.........just how much and WHAT have they recorded?

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Oh no! I am devastated to have missed this. Would really love to meet Candida...could have a right old geeky, keyboardy chat! :(

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It would be great if TBITL recorded this for a podcast.

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dixie999 wrote:

Well boys and girls.....picture this - the intro that Pulp used at concerts was recorded - it was brand new, never heard before - so that HAVE recorded something. QUESTION REMAINS.........just how much and WHAT have they recorded?

Was it? It sounded identical to the intro they used at V96 - just with some repeats at the end. More a re-edit than a new recording, I'd thought.



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Thank you! I am so intrigued by the radio silence comment.

Did you notice if it was being filmed or recorded?

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YES! That can't be it then, there must be more to come, surely!

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yeah I think theres more to come....i think theres an album being made somewhere....

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yeah I think theres more to come....i think theres an album being made somewhere....

 Buttery! I'll look forward to that in 2013!



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You think the album will be called Buttery?

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No, forgot where I was! Something my favourite rapper says, means good.

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this is huge news!!!!! its made my saturday night :D

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This is great news - she couldn't possibly be shot for saying something if there was nothing to be told.

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What do we reckon? A big Sheffield gig to end on? An album? A tour? All three? Will they all be involved?

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I'd be happy with an EP.

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I'll settle for nothing less than a new album - with a tour to follow of course. If it was just more of what we've already been given, I don't see what the big secrecy would be for.

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I'm hoping for all of the above and an appearance on Later

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COACHELLA 2012

They are notorious for their secrecy clauses.

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I would guess (& I hope I'm wrong) that it's a one off 'official farewell' gig in or near Sheffield around mid to late December. Au2o, lol.
Of course, it could be playing full albums like Suede did, I'd kill for Freaks & Hardcore...
But let's hope it's a tour, huh?

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Of course, it could be playing full albums like Suede did

 I was hoping for something like this to happen myself. For me I think the best candidate would be Separations. The albums not long and would leave plenty of time for hits and other rarities etc.



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I'd like them to play This is Hardcore with some of the extras like The Professional. Preferably with Richard Hawley and Anne Dudley.

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NYC and Minneapolis.

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Dixie, wasn't the 'intro' just a very ethereal remix of Common People or was it DYRTFT?

Btw, I would put money on more gigs rather than an album. Remember that they started demo-ing/writing We love Life in October 1999 (and, from what Pete Mansell says, they started *writing* those songs back in '98/'99) and WLL took another two years to be finished. Do you think they *really* wanna go through that again? Pulp more than any other band seem to have the most torturous (yet democratic) way of putting albums together. Jam and jam and jam and finally something emerges. It's not like they can meet up next Monday with four new Jarvis songs, two Russell ones and a Mark 'atmospheric piece' or something. It would be weeks and weeks and weeks of living, breathing and working together, getting songs together from scratch and trying, frantically, not to fall out.

Lots of disparate personalities who've all grown apart - even more than they had during their time in the band - then being expected to spend months in a rehearsal room somewhere.

And *then* record it. And then tour again. And promote it.

I really can't imagine they'd be keen to do it.

But what Candida says certainly does give hope for...something!

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Everything you say makes perfect sense...but I can't stop thinking that they spent five months in that "studio" in Sheffield...doesn't that seem quite long just for tour rehearsals?



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Wow, makIng an album sounds like the worst job in the world!

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Yes the intro at brixton etc... was a remix of common people.

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Making an album is actually pretty damn boring. Especially if you've not written the thing first. I've been into studios with bands that have songs but haven't yet rehearsed them to any real level of tightness. That's torturous enough. Couldn't imagine what it would be like having to jam for days on end to create a single song that you can then think of recording...

Also, with regards to five months in the Sheffield studio rehearsing for the tour, it's one thing a bunch of old friends reminscing through their past work/memories etc. but quite another to subvert the egos enough for something new to come about. There's a lot more pride etc. at stake with such things that simply isn't there as much with Old Stuff...

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Also twiggy, didn't they rehearse 90 songs or something? I can see how that might take five months. Especially if Jarvis heads back to Paris every now and then to see Albert etc...?

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Seventy quickly whittled down to about forty I think they said.

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Must be either a tour or one last gig. Sheffield please. I like the idea of an Auto2

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I was curious to see how many songs in total Pulp played this year.

Setlist.fm lists 34: http://www.setlist.fm/stats/pulp-bd6bdda.html?year=2011.

However, they only list 25 shows in 2011, whereas according to Pulpwiki, they played 27.

Nevertheless, I'm guessing that list of songs is very close to accurate.



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I, er, did this in my head a couple of weeks ago when struggling to get to sleep. Haven't looked at your setlistfm link but I came up with 35.
Sadly the likes of Sheffield Sex City, Acrylic Afternoons, Have You Seen Her Lately, His'n'Hers, A Little Soul and Trees were all only played once (I think).



PRE-SEPARATIONS: Nothing. Though 'Silence' did get a dubious mention from Jarvis at Brixton.

SEPARATIONS (1):

Countdown

INTRO (4):

OU
Babies
Razzmatazz
Sheffield: Sex City

HIS'N'HERS (7):

Joyriders
Lipgloss
Acrylic Afternoons
Have You Seen Her Lately?
DYRTFT?
Pink Glove
His'n'Hers

DIFFERENT CLASS (13):

All + Mile End

THIS IS HARDCORE (6):

The Fear
Party Hard
Help The Aged
This Is Hardcore
A Little Soul
Like A Friend

WE LOVE LIFE (4):

The Trees
Wickerman
Bad Cover Version
Sunrise

 

Edit: Just seen the setlist link. They seem to be missing A Little Soul...I'm pretty sure someone said that was played in France with Jarvis on acoustic guitar. And are they sure Acrylic Afternoons was played four times? I thought they only did it at Glasto, I'm probably wrong.



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Didn't they play it at Le Bikini?

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I've just done a bit of data visualisation from the setlist.fm data. Let me know your thoughts.

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/manyeyes/visualizations/most-played-pulp-songs-on-2011-tou



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liltman wrote:

Didn't they play it at Le Bikini?

 Yes, they did.



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Yeah, Eammon, I'm pretty certain "A Little Soul" is an omission on setlist.fm. I remember seeing a clip of it on YouTube.

That's a cool graphic, littlesaint!

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Didn't they play birds in your garden somewhere too?

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No...I think someone mentioned it was soundchecked somewhere along the way (Oz maybe).

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I expect that they will announce a final (few) concerts after fire have released the reissues and Jarvis' book has come out, just hope they don't do some final show in a huge venue like Wembley

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I can vouch and say that I heard them soundcheck Birds in your Garden standing outside Festival Hall in Melbourne, along with Sylvia and Glory Days - not that theyre my fav This is Hardcore songs - I just remember thinking fuckk......this is amazing! They sounded good as well.

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Another screening announced with Candida Q&A:

The Beat Is The Law Official UK Premiere Leeds International Film Festival

 
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On Friday 4th November 'The Beat is The Law - Fanfare For The Common People' will be screened (on a very big screen!) in the spectacular setting of Leeds Town Hall.
The Q and A afterwards will include PULPs Candida Doyle and the films director, Eve Wood
We hope you can make it for this very special screening. Here's a link for more details and how to get tickets:
http://www.thebeatisthelaw.com/film-news/1333/uk-premiere-at-leeds-international-film-festival-04-11-2011/


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Anyone planning on going to this? I tried to change the subject line but it won't take for some reason. Isn't Leeds kind of close to Sheffield?

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twiggy wrote:

Anyone planning on going to this? I tried to change the subject line but it won't take for some reason. Isn't Leeds kind of close to Sheffield?

 It's about 30 miles away. Unfortunately I'm not free on either of those days to go along to this.



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I'll be at the Leeds one (40 minutes on the train from Sheffield by the way, if you get the right train!). If anyone else is going let me know!

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Bumping this so those of you lucky enough to attend will remember to post about it. :)

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Did Candida say anything about plans for the spring?

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No, the q&a was quite brief and a lot of time was taken up by dealing with a rambling drunk bloke who kept asking questions that didn't make sense. I asked why she'd said in the Lamacq interview that thing about "concerts maybe, new records definitely not". She said that writing and recording was always the most difficult part of being in Pulp and she couldn't imagine going through the years it probably take to write and record another album. She also said that she couldn't think of any bands who'd got back together and done new stuff that really stood up next to their old stuff.

Interestingly she added that she hadn't wanted to do the reunion at first, as it felt "cooler" not to get back together, not being a fan of bands reforming generally. She changed her mind after they met up and played a couple of songs and it sounded good.

This is all transcribed from my crap memory, so if anyone was there please correct me!

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Good question to ask her.
I emailed TBITL to ask would they record the Q&A for a podcast but going on what you said, it possibly wasn't worth the effort.

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They did appear to be filming it.

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Thank you for posting. I prefer no info about future shows to negative info at this point.

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Nice interview with Candida here:



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Wow! I loved her commentary on the current state of the music industry today; "there's something missing, isn't there?" I'm only 27 and I'm constantly feeling like an old curmudgeon, longing for the glory days and just feeling so disenchanted with the music scene nowadays. I guess that's why we come here, huh?

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100% agree about music nowadays. It is largely absolute crap - don't think that today's situation is very similar to what it was like under Thatcher (Not that I know what that was like, or am knowledgeable about politics in any way) and really can't imagine any of the thugs involved in the recent riots making good music. Hope I'm wrong because God knows good new music is overdue

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Music has splintered too much these days. Back in the good old days when there were no internet finding a song and a band you loved was your life. You kids today have it to easy, listening to music on yer interwebs and smartie phones. Kids dont have to tape radio shows anymore to get their favourite songs they just illegally download em. Though I gotta say, all joking aside there is a serious point in what I just said. Oh, and another thing the eighties in Sheffield were fxxxxxg horrible, would never wanna go back to those times.

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That is very true. New technology has made everything easier and less significant and I would much rather not have it that way: It's like photography - that's my hobby but there is nothing separating me from everyone else with a digital camera, it's just become far too common and far too easy

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Jazza wrote:

That is very true. New technology has made everything easier and less significant and I would much rather not have it that way: It's like photography - that's my hobby but there is nothing separating me from everyone else with a digital camera, it's just become far too common and far too easy

 It's funny but we both sound so incredibly snobby about these things. In theory everyone should have the right and the access to pursue whatever they want to do but, damnitt, some people just don't deserve the opportunity! It's all just too easy no one has to work anymore at anything anymore.



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The problem with newer techonology is a band that never even stepped on stage can record something fashionable-sounding in their basement, become an overnight internet sensation (whatever that means), immediately get a record deal and start touring the world based on hype alone, and the results are the entire industry being innundated with these aggresively medicore flash-in-the-pan buzzbands that are more often then not terrrrible live acts, and the stark opposite of groups like Pulp that suffered some ten years endlessly struggling, recording, touring and fluxuating line-ups before they really harnessed their craft and produced some truly brilliant music. Plus, it's just reinforcing people's already short attention spans to tolerate a few singles rather than sitting through an entire album like you would with a record or CD.

Sure, it's great that I can download a Felt album in four minutes that I'd otherwise have to pay out the ass for on ebay, but at the same time there was something nice about hunting and tracking down obscure records and building a collection you could be proud of. "Hey, who wants to come over and see my playlist?" just doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

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It's just too easy to say "things were better in the olden days". If there had been a forum like this discussing, say, The Clash in 1995, I'd expect the same conversation to be taking place, but 1995 is a golden year for us, right?
Still, you may all have some good points here, but there's still loads of great new music being made - it's just not indie music any more. Punk was dead (in the UK) by 1980, and much in the same way indie has gone down this never-ending self-referential cul-de-sac, it's had no new ideas for the best part of a decade now.
So why be sad, were Pulp an indie band? Sometimes, of course, but look at Separations, This Is Hardcore (i.e. the song, not the rest of the album), most of their 80s stuff in fact. These songs turned me on to dance music, experimental music, "difficult" music - interests that have kept paying off in the decades since. Right now my problem is that there's too much interesting stuff out there and it's hard to know where to start.

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