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Thanks everyone for an amazing summer. We all had a great time & hope you did too. Live on. Pulp xxx



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Not even a Sheffield gig to finish on? Pleeeaassseee!

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A new pulp album would have been nice, but I'm happy with the solo stuff.

Still holding out for his third album which I think should be called Dance Jarvis! Dance!

That's right, I want a dance album.

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I never thought it'd lead to them recording together again, but I expected a Yorkshire send-off, perhaps like Auto. Could still happen but it looks doubtful after this tweet.
I like the idea of that solo album though..

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Sounds like thats it for now. Gutted as I was really hoping to see them again soon. Judging by Jarvis's comments at the last couple of gigs it sounds like they are finished for now but are open to the idea of returning again. Was really hoping for a headline slot for them at Glastonbury in 2013 but maybe thats too soon now. It would be a bummer if they decided to totally finish without informing fans that they were gonna be the last gigs as people would have went the extra mile if they werent gonna see them again. They will be back, I am pretty certain, but it might be another 4 or 5 years. What a great summer though.

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It's been a hell of a summer. Gutted I had to miss all last week's action but I'll never forget Glasto and Wireless. I think that'll be it for a few years but don't think it's over for good, perhaps they'll reform every now and then, and I still think Glasto 2013 might be on the cards after what Jarvis said this year. At least this time around they're finishing in a blaze of glory, but finishing with a show at Electric Picnic just doesn't seem right to me (no offence to anyone who went, I"m probably just jealous...)

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Not sure why that tweet indicates the end.  Wouldn't surprise me if they had a stupendous winter planned. 



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Wish I had your optimism!

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fredthe3rd wrote:

A new pulp album would have been nice, but I'm happy with the solo stuff.

Still holding out for his third album which I think should be called Dance Jarvis! Dance!

That's right, I want a dance album.

 

Aside from the name, I totally agree.



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What do you mean aside from the name?!

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oh. and this doesn't make it better.

NME:

" Pulp ended their summer reunion tour at Ireland's Electric Picnic festival last night (September 4) with Jarvis Cocker hinting that the 90-minute set may have been their last ever gig.

Before launching into set closer 'Common People', Cocker declared: "This may be the last time we're ever all on stage together again." Earlier in the set the Pulp frontman had told the 30,000-strong crowd in Stradbally, Co Laois, that: "This is the last gig of the tour, so if we start crying or get emotional, you'll understand."

However, his last words to the crowd as the band left the stage hinted that the band may yet return, with Cocker saying: "Maybe our paths will cross again." "

:( 

 



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Yes, it's also on their facebook page. Surely the rapturous response they've received from critics (Evening Standard excepted) and fans might persuade them to come back? Very interesting that they've done this reunion with very little in the way of interviews and no publicity photos other than the actual performances. I keep hoping that they might be tempted to make one more appearance on Later.

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His last words are very similar to his last words at Auto aren't they?

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It's all so nerve wracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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fredthe3rd wrote:

What do you mean aside from the name?!

 Dance! Jarvis! Dance!

 

Bit too shite (IMO) however the sentiment yes, can't complain there



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Naah, they'll be back soon enough. Feel it in me bones, sure I do.

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I don't think it's as definitive as all that. I think more comments would have been made at Brixton.


The only thing that worries me is that Russell joined in on the last Brixton song - Wickerman. Can't imagine he'd have done that for many reasons other than 'this is the last time'...

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My bones pretty much told me that was the last as I walked away from Thursday's gig. It's not simply what was said, but the way it was said. I doubt that much emotion would have gone into leaving the stage if they were planning to return with a proper tour in the near future.

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anet wrote:

My bones pretty much told me that was the last as I walked away from Thursday's gig. It's not simply what was said, but the way it was said. I doubt that much emotion would have gone into leaving the stage if they were planning to return with a proper tour in the near future.

 Agreed: full scale tour, perhaps not - at least not on this scale - but the odd festival or Magnaesque appearance feels likely. I don't think they'll be strangers in the same way they have been. 



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I suppose that is a possibility - nothing planned, but not necessarily completely ruled out for ever more. I could live with just a tiny shred of hope for the time being!

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How are your toes anet? Still bruised from Brixton?

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On the mend, thanks. I managed to avoid serious damage by hopping up and down to keep them off the floor for as much time as possible. Or was that just me dancing? Similar sort of style (I am no Jarvis when it comes to the moves).



-- Edited by anet on Tuesday 6th of September 2011 12:17:44 AM

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Thomas, it's just 2 exclamations: "Dance Jarvis! Dance!" See? Better already. Bit of a Spaced reference too.

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Much grateful for this wonderful summer. It's just painful to believe if it does mean the end. I'm really down after their finishing Electric Picnic, feel like something important was lost:(
Well, still keeping the hope.

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Oh? I thought "Dance Jarvis! Dance!" was a Bowie reference. I'd like to hear a solo album called "Jarvis Cocker Rides Again" full of original country & western tunes. Jarvis could start wearing a cowboy hat and a bolo tie. Then he should follow it up with an album of ambient space music.

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Blur and The Verve haven't officially split again either have they, I'm a lot more sure of Pulp playing more gigs than The Verve again. Not as certain as I am that Blur will play again though.

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Dance Jarvis! Dance! sounds like a great name for a band. As does "The Warhol Amps" come to think of it.

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Ha! Apologies. I'm used to the internet being a great deal meaner than everyone is on this forum.

It seems i'm in the minority view anyway. 

Back on the subject, I doubt we'll see Russell or Mark on stage w. Pulp again, but I don't think that means Pulp are gone. 



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I still think something in Sheffield should/would crop up soon... I'd be surprised if they didn't hold a gig there. But that could be wishful thinking, I really don't know if it is or it isn't...

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thomas_bland wrote:

Ha! Apologies. I'm used to the internet being a great deal meaner than everyone is on this forum.

It seems i'm in the minority view anyway. 

Back on the subject, I doubt we'll see Russell or Mark on stage w. Pulp again, but I don't think that means Pulp are gone. 

Then again, seeing as they're the two who've had to re-learn their instruments from scratch, you might argue that they're the ones who've invested most in this reunion!



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Leazes1986 wrote:

Blur and The Verve haven't officially split again either have they, I'm a lot more sure of Pulp playing more gigs than The Verve again. Not as certain as I am that Blur will play again though.

Pulp never officially split in 2002.  Just went on a hiatus.   Not really sure how Pulp can ever really split as strictly speaking they only have one original member.   Jarvis solo could almost be thought of as Pulp mk 4.  I think that Pulp, or at the very least Jarvis, will play again, but it won't necessarily be the Summer 2011 line-up.



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I'm still thinking Pulp without Russell new record in 2012. I dont know why.

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andy wrote:

I'm still thinking Pulp without Russell new record in 2012. I dont know why.

I expect a Jarvis Cocker release of some form or another late in the year.  Maybe with Pulp.  Maybe not. 



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It's not entirely clear what the question was (presumably: "will you play more shows?") but I think these quotes are from someone who stood outside Brixton to meet the band last week (she's posted some lovely photos from the show and with the band members afterwards):
Smackeys you never know ;), candidas Id like to, russells I hope so and nicks could be, could be if they leave forever now it is consequently jarvis fault.

The vagueness of their replies doesn't make me very hopeful, but at least none of them said 'no'.



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I also expect a Jarvis-related record very late this year or more likely in the first half of 2012. The band did spend a fair amount of time on their own, from the announcement of their coming-back to the first show. So it could be that there were some songs written/rehearsed/demoed. Also if the bandmembers indeed did not say a firm 'No' to the question mentioned above and I would so that even Candida and Russell, who are IMHO the most reluctant to enter this business again, I would not exclude the possibility of a Pulp album.

Although, it would be a shame not to have these small Jarvis gigs anymore with his own songs.

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Given how long it took for Further Complications to be released after he first mentioned working on it I wouldn't expect a solo album this year or next - but he might promise one this year or next.

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The Verve definitely split again according to Nick. I'd expect more Blur, they do talk about it every now and then don't they. I like to think there will be 1 more Pulp show, and I'm surprised the USA dates never materialised. I don't think they would do an album, and I think maybe its best they don't (unless it was the complete "classic" line-up).

In terms of reunions, can we do a trade with the US. They send us Guided By Voices and we send them Pulp now?

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The Verve did indeed split up again. Two members of The Verve reported in the press that Ashcroft didn't even speak to them anymore after their last gig. The two earlier splits (1995 and 1997) were also because of bad relations. Rumors say that Ashcroft only did reform The Verve to give his own solo career a kick in the butt. Which didn't really materialize, since his latest hip-hop project United Nations of Sound was a flop.

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:( gutted.
i was so sure they'd do an autumn tour. If id known for fact they werent id have sold a kidney for leeds/brixton. gah.
Atleast i saw them at glasto but im gutted i really am.

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twiggy wrote:

It's not entirely clear what the question was (presumably: "will you play more shows?") but I think these quotes are from someone who stood outside Brixton to meet the band last week (she's posted some lovely photos from the show and with the band members afterwards):
Smackeys you never know ;), candidas Id like to, russells I hope so and nicks could be, could be if they leave forever now it is consequently jarvis fault.

The vagueness of their replies doesn't make me very hopeful, but at least none of them said 'no'.

 

I was there when they said those and they all smiled as they said it... personally I think it's all down to Jarvis and Mark (both didn't bother to stop).



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could be interesting - pulp without Jarvis and Mark? Not too sure how that would go

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Well obviously Pulp can't really go on without Jarvis, it all hinges on whether he is interested...

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Don't see why he shouldn't be really, if he's going to carry on writing music anyway

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But Jarvis' radio career is only just beginning really, I can see why he'd want to concentrate on that, especially as his show has been such a resounding success.

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Isn't there room for both? An hour a week (plus admittedly, the prep he does for it but still...) shouldn't hinder him from active band duties.
Or maybe it's more that having regular work on the radio has fostered an attitude of semi-retirement within him - the odd reunion tour etc is fine if it comes along but I'll stick to spinning records now. It would be a shame as he really seemed to have the bug back for making music with his 'new' band on the last solo record, particularly during the pre-album tour.



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Yeah, but someone from that band died. I guess that bums you out a bit to say the least.

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calumlynn wrote:
But Jarvis' radio career is only just beginning really, I can see why he'd want to concentrate on that, especially as his show has been such a resounding success.

He probably only gets a bit of pocket money for that.   I can't imagine the BBC paying top dollar for a Sunday afternoon show with a few hundred listeners. 

Jarvis probably has plenty to keep him busy, but I'm sure he will keep making records.  Just not sure if it will be solo or Pulp v5.0

 



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Yeah, but someone from that band died. I guess that bums you out a bit to say the least.

Of course. Strangely, if Tim hadn't died, Jarvis and him could be writing or releasing the third solo album now and Pulp wouldn't have got back together.

 



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Saw the Tweet and I read it as a goodbye. I've been utterly depressed and desperately searching for news since.

Very pleased to have found this site with other very obviously obsessed Pulp People - nice to meet you!

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Eamonn wrote:
Wickerman wrote:

Yeah, but someone from that band died. I guess that bums you out a bit to say the least.

Of course. Strangely, if Tim hadn't died, Jarvis and him could be writing or releasing the third solo album now and Pulp wouldn't have got back together.

 

 This is true. If Jarvis does go solo again, I don't think Simon will be in the band either, so things will be quite different.



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What happened to Simon?

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I don't know who Tim or Simon are?

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I know Tim was a band member of Jarvis' solo band, who unfortunately died early 2010. Richard Hawley wrote about his death on his forum.



-- Edited by Wickerman on Thursday 8th of September 2011 07:49:38 PM

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I don't think he's best pleased about credits on the last album and he's got a new band going

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fredthe3rd wrote:

I don't know who Tim or Simon are?

Good point Fred. I know who Tim is but it would be helpful to other forum users if people could use people's surnames when referring to a non-Pulp member for the first time in a thread. I would be interested to know who this guy is too and why he is pissed off about the FC credits.



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Tim McCall was Jarvis' guitarist for the making and touring of Further Compications (he co-wrote some of the material too). Very talented guy, tragically died at the age of 37 last year. Hawley wrote quite a moving piece about him on his forum at the time of his death. Pulp members attended his funeral according to the one interview they gave this summer, apparently the band reunion idea came shortly afterwards.

Simon Stafford played keyboards for Jarvis at the same time with the odd bit of backing vocals. Previously he was the bassist with Longpigs.
Don't know about him being pissed off about the credits on FC, perhaps he feels he contributed more to the writing on that album than was stated.

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Thanks Eamonn.

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ditto

I remember now reading that they decided to reform after a friend died and they realised nothing in life is guaranteed.

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According to his partner, that's right Eamonn, they're now in a band together called Black Cat White Cat

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