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Just notice that they're released in February, just in time for that mysterious Russell interview (and probably few months before something bigger). Just saying....

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I suppose at least this way, my Pulp Portfolio project isn't having its toes trampled on. Every cloud. Ahem.

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At least Death Comes to Town is on there - I'm sure that wasn't listed before. I know it's already out and about but it'll be nice to have it on Separations!



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And the album artwork is much nicer than the crappy original versions they had up. All-new designs but very similar indeed to the original LPs!

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It still feels a bit of a missed opportunity doesn't it?
Shelved for six months so they can remaster the original tapes, fair enough. But you'd have thought there would be some more extras that us anoraks haven't heard or at least bootlegged demo sessions cleaned-up. Maureen is one of my favourite Pulp songs, I'd love to have that in good quality.

And if the inclusion of Death Comes To Town means they had access to the FON session, how in God's name is Rattlesnake, the best recording and song they'd done to that point, not included?

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I'll try to ask Jarvis about that on Wednesday.

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If you ask him in French it might take him ten minutes to answer you ;)

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DCTT's inclusion could just be taken from that Sheffield thing that was released last year.

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It is near identical. Is It not? (different fonts, less punctuation)

Separations is still awful, but slightly less so. Less funky 3d words strewn across it.

Freaks... is that an entirely different photo?!?

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Eamonn wrote:

And if the inclusion of Death Comes To Town means they had access to the FON session, how in God's name is Rattlesnake, the best recording and song they'd done to that point, not included?

Rattlesnake and DCTT are from different sessions - Jul and Dec '87 respectively. It may well be that Fire have access to one and not the other (especially as they've already released Death Goes to the Disco).

I woundn't necessarily blame Fire alone for the long wait and lack of exciting extras. I don't know what's happened, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they'd got Jarvis on board, he'd provided some extras for It, said he'd do the same for the others, then kept them waiting while he ummed and aahed, and eventually got his people's people to tell them he'd changed his mind and wouldn't be co-operating any further. I'm completely guessing there, but it wouldn't seem entirely out-of-character!



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Mark - such a cynic! It's almost like you've had dealings with him before!

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And there's the final confirmation: http://www.nme.com/news/pulp/60988


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I've been thinking about this and I really don't know if I'm gonna buy them! It has little to offer in the way of bonus, Freaks has nothing I don't already have and Separations I just don't know. I think I might wait and hear what people say about the remstering. To be honest I just don't believe that Fire will do a decent job, the Spacemen 3 remsters are hardly brilliant, my copy of the recently reissued and remsatered Perfect Prescription has the wrong tracklisting and is quite a shoddy little package. Good job the music is brilliant though.

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I want this to be great. Please make it great.

(It's not going to be great, is it?)

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superchob wrote:

I want this to be great. Please make it great.

(It's not going to be great, is it?)

 No, no it's not. If it was gonna be great it'd be out in time for Christmas! But look on the bright side; the music contained on the CD's will be remarkable, individual, inventive and just downright brilliant!



-- Edited by saw119 on Saturday 17th of December 2011 07:01:33 PM

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The version of Please Dont Worry is similar to the John Peel version, but the organ is more prominent and there is no reverb over the whole thing. Not sure what the crashing sound is at the end....

 

Sink and Swim is quite pleasant. Not what I expected, but I suppose it sits quite well on It.  Mid-tempo, latin feel (bossa-nova style) with brass overdubs.

 

Havent compared the different versions of Blue Girls side by side yet, but the alternative version seems to have more prominent piano (or a different piano take), and less volume on the backing vocals. A nice variation! Unfortunately, it sounds like there is some damage to the master tape of this mix though at least on the online streaming mp3s on the Fire website. The recording gets a bit choppy for about 10 to 20 seconds during the flute solo section, before the final verse.



-- Edited by sbazb on Monday 13th of February 2012 01:27:25 PM



-- Edited by sbazb on Monday 13th of February 2012 01:27:59 PM

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Are these out today then? The Fire website says '13th' in some places and '20th' in others - and the album pages still say "Not currently available for purchase."

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Eamonn wrote:

Thanks sbazb, interesting observations.

salmon92 - any comment on the packaging/liner notes? Everett True have anything of interest to say, any rare photos etc.?

The physical discs haven't arrived yet, but as soon as they do, I will report back with more information. Also, is anyone else having trouble downloading "In Many Ways" and "They Suffocate At Night" from the Fire website? I get "File not found" when I try to download them.



-- Edited by salmon92 on Monday 13th of February 2012 06:11:41 PM

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They are out today.

I bought from the Fire website with the free mp3s and my downloads just became available. Listening online - The version of 'Please Don't Worry' on the It re-issues is NOT the Peel Session version!!



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Went to my local HMV today and, although they have markers in the Pulp section saying that they are out today, a guy that worked there said they hadn't come in yet.

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What do you think of Sink Or Swim?
And is the alternate Blue Girls different enough to make it an interesting inclusion?

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I got my albums today, and yep, the version of 'Please Don't Worry' does appear to be the It LP session as opposed to the Peel session. The organ is more prominent in this version and it sounds like someone broke something at the end! Sink Or Swim is a lovely song; Jarvis summed up the song pretty well by saying it was about "standing at the threshold of life".

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I was determined not to buy these but after seeing It and Freaks in HMV this morning I started to soften. Interestingly, they didn't have Separations on the shelves, maybe they couldn't possibly stock an album with such a vile cover? So, having a bit of spare money I thought I would buy Separations from Record Collector but they were not stocking any of the reissues! I now feel quite let down. How do they sound?

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I'm only listening to the online stream on the Fire website, but Seperations sounds great. Finally has some proper volume and the presence of the bass end of the sound is a lot better.

Freaks sounds a lot cleaner than usual too, although, in my opinion, this  actually highlights the shortcomings of the recordings a bit too much. As we know, the recordings were done very quickly and on a low budget, and some of the tracks on the album are actually rough mixes, as the studio wiped the multitracks before the band could make the changes they wanted. Unfortunately, I think this shows through quite a bit more than usual in this remaster... To my ears anyway...



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Thanks sbazb, interesting observations.

salmon92 - any comment on the packaging/liner notes? Everett True have anything of interest to say, any rare photos etc.?

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