Stephen wrote:

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Has anyone already compiled all of this as a ten track album or is there another leaked track or two out there that I've not accounted for...?

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Just a few. Demos for "Cuckoo", "Quiet Revolution", "Wickerman" and "Yesterday" are floating around.

Are you including remixes in that? Here are the ones I can think of:

Sunrise (Fat Truckers Remix)
Sunrise (All Seeing I Middle of the Road Remix)
Sunrise (ALT / Dynamics Remix)
Sunrise (Remake)
The Trees (Felled by I Monster Remix)
The Trees (Lovejoy No Jazz Remix)

Have I missed any? Radio edits exist for both of those as well as "Bad Cover Version" but I'm not sure if they are of any interest.

As for "My Body May Die" and "Born to Cry", they weren't b-sides but they weren't on the "This is Hardcore" deluxe CD either so I am guessing we can call them "We Love Life" era songs.

The appearance of Grandfather's Nursery was a particularly weird one, I remember.

Appeared out of nowhere on Amazon one day as a free MP3 on the album page if I remember correctly...?

Actually, did anyone ever get to the bottom of exactly how/why that happened? I vaguely remember reading a quote from a band member (Mark Webber?) about it, but can't think what he said.

Sturdy...?

Stephen wrote:

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I thought Grandfather's Nursery was something to do with Nick, but I can't remember for sure...

Re: Demos for "Cuckoo", "Quiet Revolution", "Wickerman" and "Yesterday"

I've come across 30 seconds of a demo for Cuckoo, but not seen anything of these others. Does anyone have a link...?

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Full length demo of Cuckoo song was put up on here a few weeks ago.

The drummer from the Seattle band Screaming Trees is putting out their never-released final album on his own label. It would be cool if someone in the band or Rough Trade could do this with the WLL outtakes if Universal can't be bothered.

Jazza wrote:

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 Since WLL wasn't exactly a bestseller why would people pay double for the deluxe edition (referring to the majority of people here, clearly not the people of this forum)

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Because it would be the best value of the lot - containing far more lost songs in demo form than the previous three reissues.

Deluxe editions are targeted at the likes of us anyway (of which there is an increasing number), the outlay is minimal and given Pulp's return to the spotlight it makes sense to do it now. 

alex_ wrote:

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Everything from the 90s is rereleased as a deluxe edtion. Sebadoh, JaMC, Nick Cave, The Cure, Boo Radleys, Smashing Pumpkins, Pavement, Suede. Even Mansun.

I dont think WLL sold worse than Munki or A New Morning.

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There's no point comparing it though, cause in the context of Pulp, We Love Life is a completely unessential album for many people- there were no hits from it, and the band had quite a different sound to the one most people associate with them.

Suede released ALL of their albums as deluxe editions- the inclusion of Head Music and A New Morning was pretty much only for completists, would have been manufactured in relatively small quantities compared to the other three, and there would have been no way that re-releasing those two albums would have been financially possible if it wasn't for the fact that the first three records were also getting re-released/a huge promotional push.

Most people, even ones who are really quite into Pulp and know most of their albums, don't care THAT much about unreleased demos, sadly, and therefore I really can't see Island bothering to release a deluxe edition of WLL. That is, unless, they do a Suede and release ALL the albums again, maybe include a dvd and some live tracks too (re-releasing Intro too would be quite interesting).

Otherwise, a general Pulp 'Island years' rarities album? That would be pretty good.

Eamonn wrote:

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Saint Etienne did a reissue programme recently with albums being individually released in stages over a couple of years which included their last studio album (which originally came out as recently as 2005) so there's many cases of ''unessential'' albums being remade/remodelled on their own.

Admittedly in the case of Etienne and Suede they did their reissues independently after the copyright on their catalogue reverted to them from the majors. I don't think that is the case/will ever be with Pulp.

But it's not expensive to do so ultimately it comes down to whether Universal are arsed. And they probably use logic like yours so it may not be likely.

If not just sell the demos on itunes and other sundry digital stores in their current state and it's all profit.

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I know what you're saying, but ultimately it IS expensive to do a re-release, it's not just a case of opening the Island record vaults, sticking the album and extra tracks on a disc and then just releasing it. Firstly the demos would have to be remastered, along with the whole album really as is usual for a re-release, then there is marketing and advertising costs, extra graphic design and artwork, manufacture costs- all in all we really can't expect it to be in Islands interests to put all that effort into re-releasing an album that is neither popular nor thought of as a classic.

I'd LOVE a WWL re-release for the extra tracks, but I can't see it happening any time soon, though I'd love to be proved wrong. However, I'm absolutely sure that those demos will get a release at some point. I'm not a massive fan of the 're-release' format anyway, I don't really want to buy an album I already own.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "logic like yours" mind, that's a bit of an arsey comment. I'm just being realistic.

Eamonn wrote:

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Or maybe just bundle it with a DVD of all the Glasto perfomances over the years/Summer 2011 footage from Wireless or something.

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Eamonn wrote:

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Without knowing the sales figures I think the one indication that the previous deluxe editions may have fared well was that they were given an American release a couple of years ago (unless it was Universal using leftover stock from the original run).

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Now that IS a good sign... also it's actually maybe good that the UK ones are sold out.. Because, and this is probably just wishful thinking, maybe Universal stopped manufacturing them because they're going to do a big re-release of all the albums, and want to give them a big push?! Maybe even do a vinyl re-release too?!

Jazza wrote:

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Was everyone aware that WLL is currently being sold at hmv for £3! I didn't realise it was so cheap - has it always been that cheap?

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 I wouldn't know... the only Pulp CD the HMV here seems to stock these days is "Hits" (for £5)...

I´m not that web-savvy and versed in english, but what about:

-starting a big, nicely designed petition on the startsite of PulpWiki
-starting a thread on Pulps Facebook that calls on people to go on PulpWiki and sign the petition
-renaming this thread "Universal, please release We Love Live Extended!", making it stick as the top topic on this forum

maybe we can build some momentum.

I recently stumbled upon this:
"The band split during the final recording session for the album, leaving some unfinished tracks which weren't included on Kleptomania. The full reasons for the split have never been made public, but in a press release Paul Draper stated that the band had simply "grown apart".

EMI had originally not intended to release the material until an online petition, which gained over 4000 signatures, demonstrated that there was demand for it from fans. Draper was not in a positive frame of mind about Mansun at the time but agreed to work on the material after EMI contacted him, on the basis that the material would be released as part of a boxset featuring other material."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptomania_(album)

Sturdy wrote:

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andy wrote:

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but you can expect record companies execs to be smart.

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Can'T,  hehe