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Quantum Theorist

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As this forum is getting really busy and it's hard to keep track at the moment... I was wondering what everyone thinks of the new shows so far?

Personally, I've seen 2 and both have been like a dream to me. I felt disconnected from the rest of the crowd at both who were lapping it up... either because I still cannot believe I'm hearing these old songs again live ... (even if in my head Pulp had reformed they wouldn't be playing songs as nostagic as this!), or is it because I know there is more to Pulp than this nostagic thing and although I love it... I'm thinking will there be any more to this or will 2012 be a year when I feel a bit cheated? Or is it because I have been sober for the 2 shows I have seen so far?! 

I have decided to get as drunk as I can for Brixton (2nd night) and go to the front to confront my doubts that Pulp are actually there in front of me! Stear clear!

 

Mile End at Wireless was a definate high point! And I the whole Glastonbury thing was amazing.

My compliant is I can't hear Russell in the mix (maybe as outdoor gigs sound is crap) I can hear him on violin but his guitar sound is not working (i think it's too muted - the tone on his guitar is too damp- he needs to turn the treble up a bit - a bit more colour... {I don't know how many more roadies terms I can use}})

 

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Yeah, I thought Russell's guitar wasn't cutting through much at Wireless. Then again, there are three guitarists onstage for most of the time so it's hard to say who's doing what. He seemed to be more audible on the bits where he has a especially distinct and recognisable part, like Babies.

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I was a little worried that seeing Pulp live again couldn't possibly live up to the level of excitement and anticipation I was feeling leading up to Wireless. However, this was one of the rare occassions in life where reality didn't fall short of expectations. I honestly don't think I have been so hyper at an event since I was about 5!

My concern is this will be short-lived. If Pulp are just going to do the nostalgia thing, it can't last very long. Either they will 'retire' again after a brief period of being at the top of the game as a comeback act, or they will continue to make appearances, but I will get bored and disillusioned with it being the same old. It's a bit like your favouite food - as much as you love it, you wouldn't want eat it at every occassion. I'd love to see Pulp go on to record new material after this summer's appearances, cos that's one of the reasons why I love music - the thought there could always be something new over the horizon to move me all over again.

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For me it has been an absolute dream. As a kid - well 14 year old, I discovered this band and usually most of my interests kind of waver after a few years but the Pulp thing has become more intense as I got older. Probably because I am older and 'get' the songs now. Fast forward 14 years and booking tickets to see them late last year when Wireless went on sale just after I got back from the UK probably wasn't a great economical decision but I always vowed if they ever returned (after all, they never split up..) I would see them- even if I have to travel far and wide. Obviously I would have loved to have been in France at the first gig, but continents messed that up for me. Anyhows, its been a revelation for me. The night before Wireless, I posted on my Facebook that I was nervous about seeing them. That was the truth, I'd flown so far, what happened if it wasn't fun, they were shit etc. However as soon as that big black curtain came down and DYRTFT started up, I knew this hour and a bit was going to go far too quickly. The thing about Pulp, is that they're an oldish band but probably more relevant today than ever and seeing loads of people dance and sing and totally getting into my fav ever band, well its such a pleasure. I'm rambling I know - so i'll wrap this up and say, I am totally happy to be topping up their super funds, but like Weed said, I think we might get some more interesting mileage out of this - The one thing I do hope doesnt happen is that they dont end up like what has happened to The Pixies - playing Doolittle for the past 4 years around the world. I hope they make every gig special and we do as well.

Tune wise, look it was always going to be Different Class-heavy. Obviously a night of B-sides and early stuff would be the stuff of crazy crazy dreams - would satisfy us, but hey cannot complain hearing This is Hardcore in all its glory and Mile End (would never have picked that!). PSS. Have they missed out on Live Bed Show? I thought that would be a definant?especially a version like that epic V96 recording of the song.....wow! its euphoric.

Stopping waffling now.I gotta go to work and earn some mega bucks to buy their merchandise!!



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I'm very happy with it, Glasto and Wireless were incredible, the band seems to be enjoying it and so does everyone else! They did say from the start they were going to play the hits and I'm happy with that. I can't see them carrying on after this year though, although the hints of playing Glasto again make me wonder if they may reform every now and then?

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Weed, I think Russell seems quiet due to the fact there's a huge wall of (guitar) sound going on constantly. He does seem to be very audible on both DYRTFT and Sunrise, though. And obviously on violin a lot.

I've been absolutely bowled over by the reformation and the Glastonbury gig was definitely the best gig I've ever been to (although with regards to enjoyability, it was slightly beaten by the Bonzo Dog Band's reformation a few years back!). The setlist was sublime (especially as I hadn't seen what they'd been playing thus far), the day was beautiful, the support bands were great, the crowd were lovely and it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience. And Russell. Lovely Russell.

Wireless was less of an amazing experience, but that was due to being much further away and having a much duller crowd to contend with. Still, can't complain too much as my friends were much further in and got quite heavily knocked about by a few thugs, so I was probably better where I was.

But yeah...the reformation was certainly lived up to (far beyond) my expectations!

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The Bonzo reformation was also brilliant!

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This reunion has been like an absolute dream for me. The announcement came the morning after I was waxing lyrical in a pub in Utrecht with a friend I was visiting saying how much I was desperate to see Pulp live and how I'd just missed them first time round, but how it was never going to happen. The next morning I got a text from said friend as I landed back saying "guess who's just reformed".

Then came the hoping they were going to play Glasto, seeing the final lineup and being hugely disappointed they werent, then the rumours started building up that maybe they were the Special Guests, but even in the week running up to the festival there was still a fair degree of doubt it would actually be them.

Then Glasto came along, and I was stood right on the fence telling the person next to me how much I'd love to hear Like a Friend live, but how it was never going to happen. That same gig Jarvis announced he was going to play a certain song live for the first time.

And then came Wireless, which I was considering even not going to since the friends I was originally going to go with went to see Prince at Hop Farm instead. But in the end I met some excellent people and probably had a more fun time than with my friends who probably wouldnt have been as into it as I was. Plus they wouldve been a lot less keen on the long trek to Bar Italia we all made afterwards which was eventually worth it!

And most importantly, they sound so fresh and still so relevant. A lot of the themes in their songs really seem to strike a chord with the Britain of today, theyre not an overtly political band but the very subtle undercurrent in some of their songs means they're more relevant now than they have been for a while. I would agree with Annette, and indeed we had the same conversation after Wireless, that if they're not going to bring out new material this really shouldnt last beyond next summer. Unless they're planning to take it to Japan, S America etc but I really can't see that happening. However the amount of reception they've got has probably been beyond their wildest dreams so maybe another album might be a possibility? We can only hope.

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im absolutly loving it, and it seems lots of other people are (i.e. even the none pulpaholics.) on efestivals there was a poll on best acts of the weekend and they were up there being one of the highest. (i realise the efestivals is not the world but hey)
I had my first pulp dream in years last night. (i was buying tickets to see them at Sheffield, London and Leeds and i had to sell some stuff for them haha - what an interesting dream :b)

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Didn't want to start a new topic, but found a review for Carhaix in French on Google.

http://fr.canoe.ca/divertissement/musique/nouvelles/2011/07/14/18421311-afp.html

I got the meat of it on Google translate. Lets see if I can refine it a little bit. Apologies if the syntax goes a bit wrong.

CARHAIX - During their only concert in France, the British rock band Pulp, which have reformed for the first time since 2003, gave on Thursday night a true "best of" enchanting his long career began in 1978, which has captivated the Vielles crowd.

The band, on tour in Europe, began their performance with Do you remember the first time, a single that marked the beginning of the success of the group from Sheffield in the 1990s.

The round copper voice of the leader Jarvis Cocker, who lives in Paris and speaks in  near-perfect French, combined with crystalline guitar of Mark Webber,  have won over many Pulp fans and marked the revival of British rock from the 1990s.

The group played Mis Shapes, an acoustic version of A Little Soul, Something Changed, This is Hardcore and concluded with the inevitable Common People, to thunderous applause.

Hmmm...crystalline guitar. I like that! biggrin



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A Little Soul? Yay...a bit more Hardcore at last.

It's so weird lately - casually reading of them doing a new gig that you didn't really know about.

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"Jarvis Cocker, who lives in Paris and speaks in near-perfect French..."

"Cocker had previously lived in Paris in the early 1990s...but he never learned to speak French, according to Bidault-Waddington." Wikipedia.

Interesting if a French mag thinks he can speak it, then!

Acoustic A Little Soul. Bleh. You could make better use of your time, chaps!

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if the few times he introduces a French song on Sunday service are anything to go by, I'm inclined to believe wikipedia

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anet wrote:

My concern is this will be short-lived. If Pulp are just going to do the nostalgia thing, it can't last very long. Either they will 'retire' again after a brief period of being at the top of the game as a comeback act, or they will continue to make appearances, but I will get bored and disillusioned with it being the same old. 


 Unless they make a new record, which seems unlikely, I suspect it will be short-lived.  However, there is a large back catalogue to explore and I am ever hopeful that Pulp will take the suede approach of doing the hits at festivals and having more targeted gigs for fans such as doing albums in their entirety.

Apart from going to wireless, I haven't experienced the end of the hiatus.  The limited radio and non-existant TV coverage has turned Pulp back into the cult-like band they were prior to Common People.  Only then they were trying to get on TV and radio, but most people ignored them!

I'm delighted they are back.  It's been a few years since I was excited about going to concerts, and Pulp always put on a good show. 



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I enjoyed Wirless I think the whole band are enjoying the reunion I just hope it is not short lived and against all hope maybe a new record they are too good to disappear again. I dont know what I meant by that. Here hoping for a full arena tour at least in the autumn/winter.



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Why does everyone think it so unlikely Pulp will record any new material. Unless this reunion is only intended to be for a one-off series of shows this year, I think it is naturally the next step. I just don't see Pulp as the sort of band to die a creative death if they are planning to carry on beyond this year.

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Well, for one, some band members (definitely Candida; possibly others) expressed a disinterest to make another record when Lamacq asked them on his radio show.

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Well I don't think much of that :(

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whoa - so russell actually does play on the later material? I've been reviewing some bootlegs i can see him on sunrise but not hardcore.. i'm dying to know how Jarvis got him to rejoin the band. I know they remained friends but as i understand it the split wasnt, erm, entirely amicable... but the reunion just wouldnt have been the same without him. :)

and i'm sorry, but that Lamacq interview was just awful. so uninformative - it was like he was reading off the Pulp wikipedia page and never heard the band...

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really? i thought the interview was good, (particularly compared to other 6 music Pulp 'specials' - ultimate pulp playlist where they played 4 pulp songs in 2 hours!). Was nice to hear Jarvis sound relaxed compared to how he sounds in the Sunday Service as well as most of the rest of the band who usually aren't as 'present' publicly (If that makes sense - which it probably doesn't). Plus a few funny anecdotes, most of which I had heard before, but still amused me

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"Why does everyone think it so unlikely Pulp will record any new material. Unless this reunion is only intended to be for a one-off series of shows this year, I think it is naturally the next step. I just don't see Pulp as the sort of band to die a creative death if they are planning to carry on beyond this year."

I think because so far Suede post-reformation have released nothing, and Blur have only managed the one song, thus it seems the most likely situation that Pulp won't be producing much - if anything - with regards to new material.

I'd love to be proved wrong, though!

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Stephen wrote:

I think because so far Suede post-reformation have released nothing, and Blur have only managed the one song, thus it seems the most likely situation that Pulp won't be producing much - if anything - with regards to new material.

I'd love to be proved wrong, though!


I suppose the question is when Jarvis comes up with some new songs does he make a third solo album or record it as Pulp?  He could bring back Relaxed Muscle, but I suspect that is unlikely.   I'd say it's at least a year or two away, and most probably longer.



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Bringing back Relaxed Muscle is easier than Pulp, since there are only two people involved. Pulp exists of five or six people, harder to reach a compromise.

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I think that the other members of Pulp have pretty much made it clear that they don't want to resume their old career. Russell definitely wouldn't if he's not even playing half the Europe gigs, and everyone else has different lives now, really can't see it happening. I think there'll maybe be another Jarvis album eventually, but he's pretty tied up with the radio stuff at the moment.

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I don't think that Jarvis will give up making music. If Pulp doesn't make another album, a third solo record
is more likely to happens rather than digging up Relaxed muscle. And making a Pulp album would be a hell
of a pressure when it's going to be compared with HNH, DC and TIH.

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