Fuss Free wrote:

-The setlist was a little too heavy on Different Class, almost the entire album got played (exceptions being Pencil Skirt, Live Bed Show and Monday Morning). Not a bad thing but I would have gladly traded a few DC songs for some more earlier material.

Agreed

-Being at the very front was a harrowing and thrilling experience. I had to help security guards lift several people over the fence. A word of advice: if you don't have the constitution to handle thousands of people smashing together, you probably shouldn't stand anywhere near the front.

Agreed - always amazed at how people moan when someone stands in front of them, a couple of minor squabbles occured near me.

-Grace Jones was great fun, as were 'The Hives'. It's a shame 'TV of The Radio' had to go muck things up.

The Horrors were good in a Ramones meets Echo & The Bunnymen weird way, and I suspect I'll check their albums out.  The Hives were very entertaining, although I did come away with the feeing that the one single I have is probably represenatative of them as a whole.  But I did endure TV on the Radio and Grace Jones just to keep my spot.

Ultimately, it was a great show but would have been even better with some more Intro and HnH era songs. Perhaps Brixton Academy then?

Yeah!  Considering there is a pre-sale to the more hardcore fans, it may be a bit more wide ranging.  Just have to check my holiday dates.  Highly unlikely to be away on Wednesday 31st August, but as we are awaiting the kids' passports we may go later than planned.

 

Set lists are one of these things that are never going to be able to please all the people all of the time. I think it's especially difficult when a band has a vast back catalogue spanning many years. If they play too many hits. the hardcore fans feel cheated, and if they play too many obscure songs, the nostalgia crowd get bored and start chatting and ruining it. And even amongst the hardcore fans everyone has their own preferred 'era'. I've got my own list of songs I'd love to hear again (or even for the first time), but yesterday was the first time I'd seen them in 8 and a half years and they could have played hey diddle diddle and I'd have been beaming.

(hope I got the maths right there)

It was brilliant!
Sadly the crush was too much for me & I had to backpeddle early on, but once I found some space it was amazing.
A more varied set would have been nice tho'. & Jarvis messing up the timing on I Spy & the TIH intro was more than slightly jarring lol.
Oh, & an encore would've been nice...

ArrGee wrote:

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... If they play too many hits. the hardcore fans feel cheated, and if they play too many obscure songs, the nostalgia crowd get bored and start chatting and ruining it. 

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Agreed.  Was interesting that there seemed to be general bemusement near me when they played Sunrise and even Hardcore.  I suspect that for many, Pulp are Different Class plus a couple of other early hits (DYRTFT? + Babies).  The rest is a mystery to the less committed (however Pink Glove went down well).

I guess I really want Pulp to do every track from Separations onwards, and don't care if they have to spend all day doing it .  Well, there's no need for any remixes if that will save a bit of time.   

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I'm not complaining. Still, for instance, I think they could have switched out Underwear for Lipgloss or Razzmatazz to give the set a little more diversity without alienating anyone. I think the perception that DC is the only popular album is just incorrect. There are a lot of casual fans who think Pulp peaked with His n' Hers.

-- Edited by Fuss Free on Monday 4th of July 2011 11:11:09 AM

that was absolutely amazing! for those interested I filmed most of the songs (quite bad quality except at the beginning of I spy where his face is basically in the camera) also voice recorded it sound is alright as well so I'll find some way of sharing that. Was right at the front in the middle and Jarvis came down to the audience with a torch and shone it in my mouth (for some reason) am still completely hyped up!! was brilliant! shame they didn't play countdown but can't complain - especially when mile end was played!

For those wondering, yes I'm fine thank you! :)

Truth is that I had a SPLITTING headache by the time the band came on and was pretty low on energy, so when the pushing and crushing verged into "this is getting stupid now" territory I decided to make my exit. No way to move back, so I pretended that I had sustained a minor injury so that I could persuade people to let me through and over the barrier.

Had a much better time watching from the back and actually getting to listen. :)

were you the one who went off on a stretcher?

The first review....

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/review-23966852-pulp-wireless-festival-hyde-park---review.do

Jarvis Cocker hails from Sheffield, but as he admitted at this reunion, a Pulp show in London is "a bit like a hometown concert" because this is where many of their classic songs were written.

The Britpop veterans wrapped up Wireless in front of more than 45,000 fans...

And worringly, especially given the comments of seeing everyone in three years time...

It was all the more special given that Pulp appear to be quitting while they're ahead.Reading Festival and a newly announced August 31 Brixton date may be the last chance to see them for some time

 

Quitting while they are ahead!  They've only just come back

-- Edited by ArrGee on Monday 4th of July 2011 01:53:03 PM

I was at the right of the stage a good distance back but could see the screen and hear the band perfectly. Russells Violin on Mile End was amazing and although it was pretty heavy on Different Class Era songs I think no matter what they played it would have been a brillant show regardless. Now that I am back In Dublin will have a very long nap and thank god I was not close to the stage for Grace Jones (nightmare!)

Fantastic stuff. Sorry I never got chance to hang out with any of you, only managed to get to the site about half an hour before Pulp played. It was a very DC heavy set, but then why not... if I'd been following them around on tour through 95/96 I'd probably be a bit sick of hearing those same songs every night, but enough time's passed for it to be a bit of a thrill getting to see them do all that stuff again.

In reply to Fuss Free, I thought there was quite a lot of violin from Russell - Mile End, Underwear, Bar Italia, start of Feeling Called Love and obviously Common People. It was nice seeing him hit his stride on the likes of Babies and Common People - the theatrical violin bow twirling on the latter took me right back to Heineken '95, the first and last time I saw this version of Pulp. After all this time it really did feel like coming home.

Other highlights... Jarvis was on top form throughout, leaping around possibly more than I've ever seen him do before. Lots of amusing daftness between songs too, notably the "back to the days of eighty niiiiiiiiiiiiinee!" sci fi intro to Sorted. This Is Hardcore has aged well too and provided a welcome flipside to the Britpop triumphalism of the DC stuff.

They clearly didn't want to leave the stage at the end, with Jarv left alone trying to entice the others back to applaud the audience, eventually succeeding with a cry of "Russell y'bastard! Get back ere!". The touching sight of him with an arm round Russ's shoulder and giving him a kiss on the forehead was an unlikely, slightly Spinal Tap moment and a fantastic note to end it all on. See you at Leeds...

Just got in, and it was an amazing gig. Loved every minute of it. Managed to get somewhere near the tent with the video camera in it, which was about as close as I could get. Good times, met some quality people (don't know if any are on here, if so hello).

-- Edited by salmon92 on Monday 4th of July 2011 03:28:06 PM

haven't got round to uploading all my videos yet but here is I Spy : pretty blurry after the intro but great close up footage of Jarvis - he was literally staring right at me! unbelievable

i like the bits you're not supposed to see. For Hardcore Russell left the stage only to come scurrying back a few moments later to pick up a tatty plastic chair

Anyone know of any good photo uploading sites? Will put them on facebook eventually but want to put up a few for the forum - photos are over 5MB each so imageshack won't allow them!

Try Tinypic?

http://tinypic.com/

Well then! Got home about two hours ago and this is the first chance I've had to read all your posts and write one of my own, so, some thoughts and reminisicing...

>> My girlfriend and I arrived around 12.30pm and before we could get to the stage Live Nation decided they wanted to interview me! The woman said I looked like a big Pulp fan - she must've noticed the t-shirt - so I talked bollocks for five minutes. I mentioned this forum but I don't think they'll use any of it...

>> When we did arrive at the front, it was fairly quiet, mostly young girls. We were on the right hand side of the ramp. The people around us were all nice enough. A couple of people attempted to move forward and in front of us towards Pulptime, but we managed to keep them at bay - I wasn't waiting eight hours just for some cheeky git to turn up and get past! 

>> I was very lucky enough to win one of the Barclaycard competitions - my name came up on the screen so I went off to collect a £20 lanyard (debit card) to spend on whatever I wanted! I later discovered I should've been given two of them - damn! - but I may e-mail Wireless to see if I can do anything about it. I used the one I received to buy one of the His N' Hers t-shirts, which is a lovely memento of the day. 

>> I didn't bring a camera with me, there was no point, I'd never have been able to keep it still, and it would have distracted me. I just wanted to enjoy the moment.

>> The other acts: Vintage Trouble were great and I'd like to hear more. I missed most of Devotchka (see above) and I was indifferent to Metronomy - it didn't help that I had some young teenage girl right behind me screaming 'I love Metronomy' every few minutes... The Horrors were just boring. Long dull songs and a singer who looked bored shitless and angry with a cameraman, throwing his mic lead round his equipment a couple of times. The Hives were the best - bags of energy, humour, exactly what the festival needed. I'd not seen them live for 8 years, so I was pleased to see they're just as they were! Following them were the terminally dull TV On The Radio who received a rather subdued response, but nothing like poor Grace Jones. I had to laugh - the people on the front all looked confused or bored. I thought she was brilliant, myself, because she was a real change of pace, and visually striking. She tried her best to get everyone going, and eventually won the audience over when she came down to the front during 'Pull Up To The Bumper' - I managed to shake her hand on her way round. She deserved a much better response, but I appreciate she was a very odd choice to support Pulp.

>> I'm agreed with Fuss Free about the Pulp setlist - they played everything from DC except Monday Morning and Pencil Skirt, and just three songs from HnH which really disappointed me. But Mile End was a great moment. Totally confused at the end when Jarvis indicated they'd be back for an encore in 15 minutes, when nothing happened and the security began to move us out. My girlfriend was lucky to grab a setlist though, and there was no encore on there... confusing. 

>> I was pretty calm until the intro started - then the realisation dawned on me: I was about to see Pulp live for the first time. And wow. Pink Glove was a real highlight - Jarvis came down the stairs onto the ramp and looked right into my eyes as he sang one of the lines... it felt like years... brilliant. If anyone recorded that I'll treasure it till the day I die 

>> The pushing and crushing - this really pissed me off, I'm afraid. Of course I expected it to be a bit rowdy, and being a big guy I just about managed to protect my girlfriend from the weight of the crowd, but it was really uncomfortable at times - Disco 2000 was mental -  but I wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else but the very front, the atmosphere was electric. Sadly, there were about half a dozen young girls who had to be pulled out during the gig, it was that bad. I'm glad Leo is OK - I think I saw you at the front actually. A couple of people were also stretchered off too. It would've only taken a quick word from Jarvis to tell people to stop moving forward, to stop people being crushed against the barrier...

>> Sunrise. I was disappointed - not by the band, not by the song, but the crowd. People around me were singing all the DC-era songs throughout the gig, but when Sunrise came, nobody seemed to know it. They were all quiet! Was WLL that poorly-received? Just a load of fairweather fans, I guess. Such a pity, as it was utterly brilliant. I made up for their ignorance by singing along loudly and headbanging during the instrumental section 

>> Was lucky to see Sarah on the way out - sorry I couldn't stay to chat, but my girlfriend was tired and had sore feet, we just wanted to get back to the hotel. It was lovely to make your acquaintance though, and I hope you said hello to the others for me 

So yeah, a great day. I hope to be at Brixton - fingers crossed...

 

-- Edited by Pip on Monday 4th of July 2011 08:43:23 PM

Re the pushing, as you can tell from the picture I'm not a big guy so wouldnt have been responsible for any of it...but it wasn't any worse than I thought it would be. Usually at gigs you get the new material which calms the crowd down but every song was a hit (well, I guess stuff like Sunrise wasnt as popular), so it meant the pushing was more intense. I've been in worse gigs for that although at times it was quite hard keeping upright!

Time for another pic:

Another picture..

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 My missus has a big black bruise on her thigh, so I guess you were lucky! She was glad she was right at the front though - the things we do for Pulp eh? :)

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Pip. I think you and your missus might have been standing directly to the left of me. 

And Deebs and I were definitely rubbing shoulders. I have his fist-pumps on camera. I did not know this until after seeing Abs' group photo. 

Speaking of bruises, my missus had at least a half-dozen people lifted right over her. I was really worried that the guards kept fishing people out over her without letting her get out of the way, but in the crush there wasn't much I could do. She somehow managed to get through the show without injury, and proved quite the trooper. 

 

As promised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPdvUaH8i8A

Sorry about the orientation and the finger-over-lens!

More to follow hopefully.

You can see the back of Pip's head I think in this!

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Monday 4th of July 2011 11:15:09 PM

Sarah that video captures the atmosphere in the crowd near us brilliantly.

Pip, to maybe clear up the confusion about the encore that never happened I think I heard Jarvis joke at the end, 'See you all again...probably in about fifteen years'. Is that maybe where you took the fifteen minutes from?

Certainly most of the crowd stayed waiting for more and I'm sure the band would have happily played on but festivals like Wireless are so strict on timings unfortunately.

Well now im back to the normality and not a mobile phone qwerty keyboard, I can now write properly! Only got to see a few acts - which were good, and poor........

Poor - The Horrors (lead singer seems a right tosser), TV on the Radio were just dull......., Grace Jones.....yawn

Good - Cut Copy on the unwind stage - full tent, I have never heard of them - and when everyone in the crowd but for me and my mate were singing along and going bonkers I knew I have missed something down the line...... The Hives were just outstanding, the lead is a true frontman not quite to jarvis's standards but fuck they were amazing. Pulp were as good as their DC era hayday if not BETTER.

Finally back home after a very long megabus ride!

Firstly, I'll get the angry bit out of the way...

I got right to the front, in the middle at about 2pm and stayed there the entire day. At about 7pm quite a few girls started pushing through the crowd- they were Spanish or Italian, obviously this makes absolutely no difference to anything, I just say it so others who were down the front know who I'm talking about. Then one girl (wearing a Jarvis mask) pretends that she's ill and that she needs to speak to the bouncers just so she can push in and get a place at the barrier, taking the place of someone who had literally been there since half 12. She then starts repeatedly asking me (I'm right behind her) to let her friends stand in front of me, to which I obviously reply "no". And so during Pulp's set, as 'revenge' for not letting her friends through, she tries to get the bouncers to throw me out THREE TIMES by completely lying to them that I'm "kicking and punching" her, which is obviously insane. The bouncers don't do anything, but after the third time she says this I should at her "what the fuck do you think you're doing?!"- a bouncer sees me do this and then comes over and shouts at me, so I spend the rest of the gig absolutely terrified that if she says any other lies to the bouncers then they'll believe her and throw me out!

It very nearly ruined the gig for me- I really don't care how much of a "mega fan" someone is, how wealthy they are or how far they've travelled, no-one has the right to act like that just in order to be at the front of a gig.

Luckily it DIDN'T ruin the gig for me- Pulp were AMAZING even though they didn't play for long, I was RIGHT at the front and Jarvis looked me right in the eyes during Pink Glove when he was down on the catwalk! Mile End amazing obviously, Sunrise was an unexpected highlight for me. Very jealous of my friends Aunt who was backstage and at the after party as apparently she's friends with the Banks!

Tv on the Radio were amazing I thought, a proper radge set but class nontheless, Horrors new stuff is awesome, I can't believe how popular the Hives STILL are, Metronomy were quite good, Grace Jones was a bore for me personally but I can see why people would like her.

My friend Ross was saying he bumped into you lot at Bar Italia later on, too!

Uploaded all 6 now. Check out my Youtube channel if you want more videos!

www.youtube.com/thepsuedonym

 

 

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As promised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPdvUaH8i8A

Sorry about the orientation and the finger-over-lens!

More to follow hopefully.

You can see the back of Pip's head I think in this!

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Monday 4th of July 2011 11:15:09 PM

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 Haha yes that is the back of my head... good to see I've not got a big bald spot or anything 

So sorry to hear about your problems Calum - I saw that girl with the Jarvis mask, can't believe what she did to you. What a cow!

Fuss Free wrote:

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keithc1thank god I was not close to the stage for Grace Jones (nightmare!)

 

I don't understand how any Pulp fan could not love Grace Jones. She is the essence of everything Pulp stands for. Grace Jones is glamorous and trashy. She's good bad sex. She's old enough to know better but she just can't help herself. She's a relic that can never be replicated. She's the red light district in Disneyworld. God, I love her so much.

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Oops, sorry I was trying to reply to Fuss Free. I love Grace Jones too and I think you've summed her up brilliantly!! (sorry, Ross it was me standing next to you who asked you to keep it down while she was playing) I thought she was brilliant and it brought back lots of happy memories of hanging out at the Fridge at Brixton in the late 80s. And I was pleased she played a couple of songs from Hurricaine, which is an amazing album.

I was following all the posts yesterday on the train back from Cornwall but kept losing my signal so I couldn't reply. I realise now that as well as meeting Sarah I saw a few of you: Calum (standing to the right if me), Deebs, Ross and his mate were beside me for a while. I loved every minute but the pushing and shoving freaked me out at the beginning but I'm very glad I held out as I had a great view. Surprised, like others, that not many of crowd seemed to know words for TIH and Sunrise but it was nice to actually be able to hear Jarvis singing. I've always regretted missing out on Pulp first time round and can't quite believe I've seen them live now. Hopefully, I'll get tickets for Brixton.

Freaks would be an interesting one! (Probably for them as much as us, too...)

Were people not singing along to Sunrise and TiH because they didn't know them? Or because they're slower, less singalong-y kind of songs to start with? Maybe a bit of both? Personally I was surprised that so many people were word-perfect even on a lot of the lesser-known Different Class tracks.

I was belting out all the words!! Did get some funny looks.

They're having a Pulp night at Feeling Gloomy (in Angel) this saturday, last time they gave away loads of free shit, I got a copy of Freaks on vinyl! Shame I don't have a record player but still looks awesome on my wall!

Is anyone else here going to this one? There's a facebook event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=216484821716065

 

Let me know! Would be cool to have a big crew of hardcore fans there!

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Freaks would be an interesting one! (Probably for them as much as us, too...)

Were people not singing along to Sunrise and TiH because they didn't know them? 

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I just couldn't do It nor Freaks live. 

I believe so.  It wasn't even the lack of singing, it was more the not realising the changes in tempo/mood, particularly in Sunrise that seemed to indicate a lack of awareness.  People were in modo di marcia funebre when they should have been con brio. 

 

(no not a musician, I looked this up, as I wasn't entirely sure if tempo was exactly what I meant)

-- Edited by ArrGee on Tuesday 5th of July 2011 10:57:36 AM

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Pip, to maybe clear up the confusion about the encore that never happened I think I heard Jarvis joke at the end, 'See you all again...probably in about fifteen years'. Is that maybe where you took the fifteen minutes from?

Certainly most of the crowd stayed waiting for more and I'm sure the band would have happily played on but festivals like Wireless are so strict on timings unfortunately.

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 Yes I think I must have misheard him then. I was just expecting Razzmatazz, but never mind... they can make it up to us at Brixton

I've got an awesome video of Jarvis at the start of I Spy, where he's literally directly in front of me, I nearly hit him on the head with my phone! Sadly my phone is rubbish and won't let me get videos off it.

HELLO! It's me, Ross who is Josh's friend. It's Weed who I know, Martin. I got mixed up with forum names haha.  What a night! Lovely to meet you all! Hopefully see you all at Brixton. Anyone going two nights in a row? 

-- Edited by RossLionheart on Tuesday 5th of July 2011 03:06:40 PM

Hello again Ross. At least I know your name now!

I'm a bit surprised our forum meet-up photos weren't included in that article!

Intro?

Perhaps they would have dropped it had they been running over?

I'm glad they did include 'The End of the Line' at the start though, it's much more epic with it!

What was that bit with Jarvis saying warm your hands by the fire, was it a video image of an old fake coal fire? Can't remember properly and it was mentioned in another thread

God I must have been well pissed to not work out what was going on, ta!

http://soundcloud.com/snailspacerecords/russell

The back of my knees are still sore. Keep forgetting to put some Deep Heat on before work!

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 Excellent! How is the sound so good, is there a proper recording doing the rounds?

http://thequietus.com/articles/06542-pulp-live-review

(apologies if it's already been listed on here)

-- Edited by weener on Wednesday 6th of July 2011 04:56:06 PM

mediafire.com

Reading the beginning of this thread, I wish I'd discovered this site sooner! Would have been brilliant to meet more Pulp obsessives on Sunday!!!!!! :D

I don't think it's physically possible to give Pulp live anything less than a great review.

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Actually, that got me thinking - I've just checked to see if Russell has a writing credit for on TIH for Help The Aged. He doesn't which is a bit odd considering it was written on tour in '96.

Maybe Jarvis wrote it but (in Pulp democratic fashion) credited the whole band as it's line-up then was, once it finally came out? Otherwise it seems a bit strange that all other members of Pulp except Russell had a hand in writing it together.
Sturdy?

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Songwriting credits are a slippery thing to start with, and the one-size-fits-all group writing credit is inevitably even more so. Obviously it doesn't mean that every member of the band wrote one-sixth (or one-fifth) of the music on every single thing they've ever done. There might be some that came about that way, give or take; there are definitely some that one or two members of the band pretty much cooked up on their own, the shared credit being a cosmetic gesture; I'm sure there will be some where it might be a Jarvis composition that nonetheless has a guitar/keyboard/bass/violin part that's become so much a part of the song that the person who came up with it deserves a credit, even though they didn't 'write' the song as such; and there'll doubtless be plenty of songs that either came out of a jam type situation or had such a protracted genesis that it's ultimately impossible to say who actually wrote it.

Help the Aged then - yes, it apparently came out of soundcheck noodling during the '96 tour, and if Russell had still been in the band when it was released it would presumably have been credited to all six members as you'd expect. However, he's confirmed himself that he didn't really contribute to the writing of that particular song (he wrote a guitar part which was nothing special and doesn't feature on the recording - see if you can spot it on the V96 recording where he's playing guitar alongside both Mark and Antony Genn - I can't!), so presumably when the split came it was part of the agreement that he wouldn't get a credit on either that or Cocaine Socialism (which was also started around the same time). If he'd had an active part in writing either song then presumably things would be different and he'd have a songwriting credit.

-- Edited by Sturdy on Wednesday 6th of July 2011 11:59:09 PM

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I did a sound recording of the entire concert and listening over it isnt bad quality either, any ideas of websites that I could share an hour and a half recording?

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 One up on dimeadozen for those registered with it:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=364079

Does anyone remeber the chap at the front who was dressed like Russell but had a really exquisite moustace? Wish I'd taken a photo now.