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Glory Days is just dreadful- the lyrics are so clumsy and vague, but maybe I'm just comparing it to the absolutely razor sharp Cocaine Socialism, which is utterly incredible.

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I hate it when this topic comes up because some of my favourites always get chosen. Aborigine, Minnie Timperley, David's Last Summer, Party Hard, Weeds....
The obvious answer to this question is "Silence" of course, but it's at once too obscure and too obvious to pick. If you'd asked me this question years ago I might've agreed on Something Changed being too mainstream, but about five years ago I was watching the video and it just clicked for me. Odd choice for a single, a track that takes ten years to get to you.
If I have to pick a track to skip, well, yes, agreed on Paula, but the one which I have never understood the love for is Seductive Barry. Eight and a half minutes and it never gets interesting at all.

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I don't like 'silence'... I hate hearing Jarvis sound so angry :/

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Hm...

To be honest, I like the entire concept surrounding 'Silence'. It's very McEwan. If it were executed better, then maybe it would be slightly more tolerable...

I don't mean to be frank, but I don't see the point of 'Cocaine Socialism.' It doesn't strike me in any way, but I may just need to give it another listen.

'Love Love' just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. It's just horrendous.



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Mine would be as follows

Seductive Barry- Could never get into it

Bob Lind- Very Average

And D'ont YTou Know could never get into that song either.

 



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weej wrote:

The obvious answer to this question is "Silence" of course, but it's at once too obscure and too obvious to pick. 

 I have never heard it, so I couldn't say.  I have heard it is very bad, but I've never felt the urge to check out how bad it is.

Having been listening to Countdown 1992-1983 CD1,  it can't be much worse than Death Goes to the Disco.  Always make me think of Eurovison.



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weej wrote:

I hate it when this topic comes up because some of my favourites always get chosen. Aborigine, Minnie Timperley, David's Last Summer, Party Hard, Weeds....
The obvious answer to this question is "Silence" of course, but it's at once too obscure and too obvious to pick. If you'd asked me this question years ago I might've agreed on Something Changed being too mainstream, but about five years ago I was watching the video and it just clicked for me. Odd choice for a single, a track that takes ten years to get to you.
If I have to pick a track to skip, well, yes, agreed on Paula, but the one which I have never understood the love for is Seductive Barry. Eight and a half minutes and it never gets interesting at all.


 Wait, what? Who is choosing David's Last Summer?  Are the nation's ear-syringers out on strike today too?

Silence, every time.  I like the concept (see also: Tunnel, Coy Mistress, &c), but the execution is laugh-out-loud awful.  I dig it out every couple of years having convinced myself it's not that bad, only to always end up turning it off before the end.



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All the rest of the songs everyone's mentioned on this page are fine by me. "Cocaine Socialism" had a purpose back in the time immediately after the '97 Election when other celebs were queueing up to endorse the New Labour project, even if I prefer the B-side version to the supposed "proper version" and prefer Glory Days to both. "Death Goes To The Disco" is just a pumping bit of extra Separations, cheap glammy turn-of-the-decade disco, and I've always been quite fond of it. Seductive Barry is a synthesis of what the marketing of the This Is Hardcore LP suggested the record might sound like; it's also a late-album counterpoint to This Is Hardcore, TIH's equivalent of F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E. balancing I Spy on Different Class. (Also also: I will light your cigarette / With a star that has fallen from the sky / Breathe in, breathe out / I love the way you move / Don't let anyone tell you any different tonight... come on, people.) I could really do without the out-of-tune whatevertheyares on Bob Lind, but I understand why they're there, and I've always liked the song.

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ArrGee wrote:
Ian wrote:
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That said, it is a great track on the album.  This is Hardcore as an album is greater than the sum of its parts. The only tracks that seem to work as individual tracks are Dishes and Glory Days.  


 I agree about "Glory Days", I think that it should have been a single but I think that the slower songs ("Dishes" inparticular) sound better within the context of the album.


 

I don't think Dishes is a single, but it is a song I can listen to in a playlist without the rest of the album.    All the hardcore tracks just need to be together, even the B-sides.


I thought that (about Dishes, I mean) until I heard the Flux bootleg, where they use it as a set-closer - it's much more "anthemic" than I'd given it credit for on the LP, it's kind of like Pencil Skirt in that it goes almost imperceptibly from gentle musing to brash noisy chanting.

Weirdly, at the time I loved Help The Aged and was really upset I'm A Man wasn't a single, whereas listening to TIH now (thirteen years later - Jesus Christ), they're easily my two least favourite tracks.  I was playing a load of Pulp records for my dad the other day, and having gone through pretty much all of Intro, His 'n' Hers (and its B-sides and bonus disc) and Different Class, Help The Aged then brought everyone up short with its sludgy rockism - I didn't hear that *at all* at the time, but listening to it afresh in the company of someone who'd not heard it before, it became surprisingly hard to stand up for.

I do still really like the TIH album.  If you sequence "It's A Dirty World" into it (and "Ladies' Man" and "Laughing Boy" and "Like A Friend" etc etc), it's close to wonderful.



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Steve Devereux wrote:
Who is choosing David's Last Summer?  Are the nation's ear-syringers out on strike today too?

 

Don't know.  To me it is up there with all the six minute plus epics Pulp made from My Legendary Girlfriend to Wickerman.    Only longer song I never really liked was Miner's Strike which seemed to be done begrudingly.   



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No contest to my ears - Bad Cover Version. It's a shame because I think the lyrics are spot-on but musically it makes my ears bleed.

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for me it has to be Silence.. Followed closely by Can I Have My Balls Back, Please? (*yawn*) and The Day After the Revolution (though I haven't listened to that one in AGES). Also David's Last Summer is quite forgettable, just in comparison to the quality of songs from that period.

I ldo ike the vast majority of early Pulp.. yes, even 97 Lovers XD

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97 Lovers is one of my very favourites, PQ (:

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James wrote:

97 Lovers is one of my very favourites, PQ (:


 + 1 :)



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A lot of people dislike MOTU-era material fullstop, which is a shame..

After I heard Different Class, the only Pulp cds I could find at the time were Freshly Squeezed and MOTU so maybe that's why I have a soft spot for those songs :)

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I'm not keen on someone like the moon... pretty boring that track. I don't get where the hatred for minnie comes from? It's just a nice little bit of MOR to drag the album along and it's fine by me.

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I have no idea, the obvious 'bad' choices like 97 Lovers and Silence have become incredibly likeable just for sheer comedy value. Least favourite song would probably be something that's just straight out BLAND. A song that literally ruins my fun because it's popular enough to be in setlists a lot despite me not liking it that much. (This is why I hate Feeling Good by Muse so much).

I'm gonna go with Mis-Shapes.

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'Sorted for Es and Wizz' is probably the (late) song I skip the most. Most likely over-exposure though - perhaps it isn't as robust as Babies et al were when exposed to the 'repeat' button.

Summarising the band in, say, ten songs - now there's a tall order. Well OK, to make it easier you can forget Common People, DYRtFT, Babies, and all the other 'indispensables'. For me, Acrylic Afternoons, I Spy, This is Hardcore, Wickerman and Sunrise would have to be in there... Along with perhaps Down by the River, The Mark of the Devil, Don't you Want Me Any More, Sheffield: Sex City, and... hmm... Underwear. Or Feeling called love. Or Love is Blind...



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Bad Cover Version and most of WLL, Dishes, urgh.

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According to my itunes (skip count)...
Space, Please Don't Worry, The Night That Minnie Timperley Died, Love Love.

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Bob Lind rocks! (song and person!)

"You want someone to screw your brains out
I'd say they're running out of time
and they'd only go and cut themselves on the daggers of your mind"

One of JC's greatest moments right there.

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I think Love Love is perhaps the worst ever but I felt inclined not to mention it as he was only a kid.

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Sorted, seductive barry and roadkill are mine from the most recent stuff. srpski jeb is just fucking awful but hilarious at the same time

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Sleeve wrote:

I think Love Love is perhaps the worst ever but I felt inclined not to mention it as he was only a kid.


 True, I'll forgive him then biggrin

Another one I'm not keen on is 'Have You Seen Her Lately?' just doesn't do it for me, from my favorite album though!



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Like most of you:

Silence

Ladie's Man irritates me. I hate the beat and the voice (vocoder? hello, Cher).

That boy's evil also is also annoying.

I hear those songs anyway, everytime I'm listening to all the records from Pulp. Perhaps some of these songs will fit my preferences, because this situation happened before, with a lot of tracks, like Master of the Universe, for example

Anyway, We love life is an album that I can't hear too many times... I really don't like it, except one or two tracks...

 

 

 



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