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Bloody hell... hope it's good!


PULP RETURN AND CONFIRMED TO HEADLINE
WIRELESS WITH BARCLAYCARD
IN HYDE PARK ON SUNDAY 3 JULY

TICKETS GO ON SALE FRIDAY 12 NOVEMBER AT 9AM


Wireless with Barclaycard is excited to announce that PULP are confirmed to headline the festival on Sunday 3 July.  A statement from the band issued today reads as follows:
 
Pulp have decided to get together and play some concerts next summer. The shows will involve all the original members of the band (Nick Banks, Jarvis Cocker, Candida Doyle, Steve Mackey, Russell Senior & Mark Webber) and they will be playing songs from all periods of their career.  (Yes, that means theyll be playing your favourites). If you wish to know any more then please visit www.pulppeople.com <http://www.pulppeople.com>  where you will be subjected to a barrage of cryptic questions.  In the meantime ask yourself this: Do You Remember The First Time?

Live Nation, promoters of Wireless with Barclaycard, today announced ticket details and an on-sale date of Friday 12 November at 9am.  Pulp are the first of many big name artists to be announced to play across the Parks four stages. Further dates and acts will be announced in the coming weeks.
 
2010s acclaimed line-up saw headliners P!NK, LCD Soundsystem and Jay-Z perform show stopping sets to tens of thousands in Hyde Park.  Previous headliners have included such luminaries as Morrissey, The White Stripes, Kanye West, Daft Punk, New Order and Basement Jaxx.

Entering its seventh consecutive year Wireless promoter Steve Homer from Live Nation is looking forward to another sensational year in the capital.  He said, Wireless has a long tradition of pulling off extraordinary coups and next year is no exception, were delighted to be welcoming Pulp to headline in 2011, this is guaranteed to be a must see event.
 
Dan Mathieson, Head of Sponsorship, added, "Barclaycard are looking forward to another stunning Wireless event where we will once again be able to bring our contactless payments to the festival space and provide fantastic experiences to our customers and business guests."

Hyde Park has been home to Londons most sensational summer concerts for over four decades, an iconic location for some of the greatest names in musical history. Acts that have performed include The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Blur, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Roger Waters, The Who, Aerosmith, Eric Clapton, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters and The Police.
 
Wireless with Barclaycard is a spectacular open-air live music experience in the heart of bustling London. It offers a chance to experience the excitement and watch the best in popular music right on your doorstep; with many more acts and details still to be unveiled, Wireless 2011 is certain to be the big event on the summers musical calendar.

Ticketing Information:
Tickets go on sale Friday 12th November at 9am and are priced at £48.50 plus booking fee.  

Tickets available at www.wirelessfestival.co.uk <http://www.wirelessfestival.co.uk>

Barclaycard customers have the exclusive opportunity to purchase two for one tickets, on sale Wednesday 10th November at 9am via www.barclaycardunwind.com <http://www.barclaycardunwind.com>  

Vodafone customers can buy tickets 48 hours before they go on general sale. Get yours from 9am, 10 November at vodafone.co.uk/vip

Purchase a Carbon Offset for 50p as an add on to your order to negate the environmental impacts of your travel to and from the festival, these funds will be used to invest in environmental projects in local schools. More details are available on www.wirelessfestival.co.uk <http://www.wirelessfestival.co.uk>

DISABLED ACCESS:
Disabled customer tickets for this event are available through Ticketmasters access booking line on: 0844 847 1655. This number is operational Monday to Friday 9am to 6pm and Saturday 11am to 4pm.

Disabled customers will be provided with one free ticket for their helper, where required. Should additional helper tickets be required, please call the disabled access ticket line on 0844 847 1655 or email access@wirelessfestival.co.uk <mailto:access@wirelessfestival.co.uk> 
 



-- Edited by Sturdy on Monday 8th of November 2010 11:26:26 AM

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shit, posted it as well. It deserves 2 threads :D

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someone told me they heard this on 6music this morn. i was dreading V but i can handle this! do livenation members get the presale??

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OMG
my husband just watched me do a Russell Senior joy dance! He started talking about how I'm a 'grown woman' in my 30s and should know better... he's so wrong! :D

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Ive heard they are now a strong rumour for Glastonbury festival :)

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Wow!

I hope we´ll get that Deluxe-WLL finally!

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Shit, gotta get back from China next summer!

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Hey all,

We're very excited about this, and as it happens, we have a Pulp night planned at Feeling Gloomy for the 20th Nov!

Come and celebrate the re-union with us if you like. www.FeelingGloomy.com

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All your unanswered questions at : http://www.pulppeople.com/

... No answers mind you!

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Those questions and pics on the official site are fucking brilliant. So Pulp. Love looking at the music gear :) Fuck me, Russell Senior is going to be involved!!! No wonder he scurried away before Sturdy had a chance to corner him in Sheff last week.

And Webbo tooo! Finally he can put his F1 career to one side...Sarah, did he swear you to secrecy at the film festival the other week?
Can't feckin' wait.biggrin

As for it being the original line-up I don't see Dolly's name mentioned ;)...quintessential line-up maybe.

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Yeah, the fact-checker in me was annoyed by that "original line up" thing.

Also, they are promising songs from "all periods of their career." It's not the potential of early stuff that's surprising to me. (It's not such a leap to hear songs like "Little Girl With Blue Eyes" or "Legendary Girlfriend"). It's the idea that Russell is going to learn to play "Hardcore" or "Sunrise" that's intriguing to me. (Or will he leave the stage for those songs and Hawley will come up?)

I actually think the biggest surprise is that both Russell and Mark are involved.

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Really, really cool news! I'm excited. I just saw on the Facebook page that a Spanish date has been announced as well, so I guess this won't be a UK only thing. Great!

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I hope it is a WORLD tour

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Is this a dream?

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Why did they have to wait until after I had booked tickets to the other side of the world (starting in June for 8 months!) to do this!!

However, I have just got tickets to see my first Pulp gig in Barcelona :).

Love it !

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I can't even believe it.

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I wish I had a fecking Barclaycard :(

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WOW! Soooo excited. This news makes next year worth living for.

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Pip wrote:

I wish I had a fecking Barclaycard :(


Luckily I have.  Only trouble is I have a 9am meeting, so probably won't get through in time.

 



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1) Wow wow wow Pullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
& I never got to see Russell before (:

2) When's the Spanish gig? I'm actually in Barcelona in May.
If I get to see them there too........but Hyde Park YESSS!!
Also it's on a Sunday, maybe the flyers'll read 'what are you doing Sunday, baby?'.




just checked and it's the week after I'm in Spain :( Still mega excited about Hyde Park tho'.

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Wow, just found out and I'm completely gobsmacked. There goes the chance of any sleep tonight!

Just hope I can get tickets for London. Will have to sort out a trip to Barcelona aswell.

Man, that is some news!



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Eamonn wrote:

Sarah, did he swear you to secrecy at the film festival the other week?


I swear to God, Mark never said anything to me when I was chatting to him at the BFI. Although come to think of it he did have a bit of a twinkle in his eye, but he did have a cold at the time so I thought nothing of it.

 



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This is the best news of the year!

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Is this a dream come true? Oh yes.

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I love those questions on the website, you can see they have thought about the reactions and came with quite a lot self-deprecating questions. It's genuine, not like that The Verve reunion.

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OMG - news of the year! clap.gif

I am surprised to hear Russell's on board.

Let's hope for a WLL deluxe edition or maybe even a new EP. Just another Best of would be rather pointless. The revived pulppeople site looks promising, so I'm quite confident. There must be some music in the pipeline.

Do you think there will be more shows in continental Europe?

If not, team Germany (aka: me smile) is going to grace the Hyde Park with its presence.





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I seriously doubt they'll make any new music. With Blur new music makes more sense- all the members are still heavily involved with making music and still live that kinda lifestyle, but Pulp, especially Russell and Nick, don't have those kind of lives at all. But with Russell on board, just reunion shows are enough for me.

And I know I shouldn't want just gigs, I shouldn't be wallowing in some sort of nostalgia.

But I guess my thoughts are:

"It was too long ago, shouldn't care anymore, but what I'm wanting to know- is it as good as before?"

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I wouldn't be surprised if there was some new material. Jarvis obviously has never stopped writing, and Steve has kept his hand in. And Russell doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would be satisfied if it was a mere exercise in nostalgia. And, who knows, Candida, Nick and Mark have had plenty of time to stockpile ideas!

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I agree with Sturdy on this. However, I think a hit single is too much to ask. I still think they could get a top 10 album (like "We Love Life") though.

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I don't want to sound ungrateful in the face of such fantastic news, but there must be some new music to come somewhere along the line. There's nothing worse than a reunion that's just a lazy, easy money-making nostalgia trip. Think of all those bands from the 70's and 80's that eternally do the rounds at Butlins and the like, having died an artistic death and suffering severely from many lack of credibility (if they ever possessed any). I'd rather Pulp stayed as a wonderful memory from the past than have them become parodies of themselves. Fair enough to start again with the familiar stuff, but I hope the reunion doesn't end there.

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So the question is really "What made them change their minds?"

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They never really went away. Wasn't always just a break, rather than an official split? I've been getting laughed at for years by my friends for telling them Pulp would be back one day. I kept the faith!

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I'm in touch with Pulp's/Jarvis' publicist because I'm one of the editors of a magazine in New York and she says there definitely isn't going to any press/tour dates in the US. (Mind you, she said she'd notify me if they changed their minds...)

So, if any Americans are waiting to see if they play Webster Hall or Coachella or something, don't. Go to London.

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Well, I guess it won't be a full return for the band. I'm always a bit sceptical. Just trying to get some cash in for some members?

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I reckon it's partly "Why not?" and also partly "It's now or never!"

Because why shouldn't they reform? They get to have an amazing time playing much loved songs they haven't played in years at huge gigs, fans get to see the band live again, the band also get a huge payday which I think they all deserve as, with the exception of Jarvis, none of them are celebrities earning mega bucks.

They're not getting any younger so they can't really um and err about this any longer. They play a summer of great gigs, have a blast, part ways once again, everyone goes home happy, the band legacy remains intact.

It's a win-win situation... for everyone but us, the indie purists.

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Pulp purists please. Or pop...not that fucking 'i' word. Anyway...

Although I'm delighted this is happening the timing and manner of the announcement is, not under-whelming, but a little 'normal' for a group as idiosyncratic as Pulp don't you think?(Although the official site's rendering of the news is fantastic and had me smiling so much when I saw it)
I mean their last show at Magna was an exercise in humility as much as creativity. They put together a music festival of which they, although the star turn, were in their own minds just one of the artists playing.

This comeback, coming hot on the heels of another 'Britpop' group with whom they are most commonly associated, probably seems predictable to many. Looking round at various sites, forums and listening to the radio last night, it's great to see and hear the goodwill for the group doesn't seem to have diminished since their disappearance in December 2002. The more cynical have made points that as a sad Pulp fan, I feel obliged to defend but maybe there's a bit of truth in some of them.

If it's purely for a few bob fair enough. But I've seen comments like ''Suede and Blur paved the way for Pulp's initial success, it's no surprise that their reunions are doing the same again'' and ''Well his (JC's) solo career has hardly set the world alight, pretty predictable he's wheeling out his gang of misfits while they can still perform''...now I don't doubt that Pulp have had offers before now that they could have taken-up but maybe the success of their above-mentioned contemporaries' returns has given them more leverage. The point about Jarvis' solo career is a bit silly and sad really. Jarvis consciously released solo albums on a label whose ethos is as far away from rampant commercialism and chart domination as possible. As for the numpty who said ''So it's not even the original line-up yet they mention that it is twice on the press-release just to drum-up more interest''...though the PR should have used 'classic' for 'original' surely?

I guess I might have expected something more restrained befitting these modest Sheffieldites like Jarvis casually announcing on his radio show that they were going to rehearse old songs and possibly have a go at new ones and see what happens. Or not say anything, then release a stand-alone single/EP and announce a tour.

As it is, of course I'm thrilled and probably being unfair with the above. For all we know they've swatted down offers until now and finally decided
'Well if you think there'll be enough interest ok then..why not give it a go?''

I don't envisage a long tour, I'd be surprised if there were more than half a dozen more dates scattered around the continent. Pulp, DC era aside, were never the type to over-stretch themselves when it came to touring and 15 years later I don't think that's going to change. I imagine Russell, Mark and Candida in particular will not be keen for it to drag on. An intimate gig or two for lapsed Pulp people or in Sheffield where they play rarer stuff would be very nice indeed though.

I'd be very surprised if there was new material, especially an album's worth but who knows? It will be interesting to find out more when they start doing press for this. Jarvis might speak about it a bit next Sunday on his show. Maybe Sturdy can get Nick or Russell's view on it (hint hint).

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An interesting thought, if they do write any more material, is that they're no longer with Island Records. Obviously it was Island that really fuckied up on the release of WLL and associated singles, and I imagine that the door is pretty much open at Rough Trade if they're interested in releasing anything new..

I suppose what I'm getting at is that they're completely free, which is unusual for a band in their position, compared to, say, Blur, who look like they will forever be chained to EMI. It's pretty exciting!

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I think they should be encouraged by the other reunions, & if they're doing it for the money (which I doubt) then fair enough. Just because someone's an artist, you still need money to live in this world.

I agree with Eamon's point that Jarvis never much sought commercial success with his solo work, or he'd have played on using Pulp songs to draw people to his gigs. So anyone questioning artistic integrity should take a look at that.

As for new material, didn't they always want one no.1 single? I think they'll try, especially if the shows go well. Which I'm sure they will - the only time I ever remember Pulp dissapointing live is when they played The Trees on TOTP.
I seriously doubt it'll be anything short of great, it'll probably be brilliant!

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I guess it will be allright. Like the people above are saying, Jarvis isn't that commercial to just get the old band out and to push a new solo album. I'm looking forward to the artistic contribution of Russell to the TIH songss. I wonder if it's gonna add something.

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Does anyone know if Pulp are/ were big in Australia? as I'll be over there in the second half of next year, and would love to think I could see them there too if they were to play a bigger tour!

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Hopefully they'll feel inspired to take a fresh look at the setlist. In the last few years I found it very formulaic for the most part - the likes of Babies, Something Changed and Sorted just got hammered to death. The return of Russell might inspire a few more daring digs into the back catalogue - would be nice to have some of the violin tour-de-forces like She's a Lady or even some of the Seps-era stuff.

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Agreed, it would be a waste to have Russell on board & not play Separations (the song) with full violin intro.

Okay now we're already getting into (irrational?) hopes, what about reissue tracks?
Can anyone see them dusting off Live On?
Tho' I think the most likely would be We Can Dance Again.
Oh, & doesn't a certain band member (I think it was Nick?) love Don't Lose It?

I remember thinking I Want You sounded great at the Eden Project, & that's one of my favourites right up there with Little Girl (with blue eyes).

Maybe Russell could do the extended The Fear solo, or the piano intro to This Is Hardcore, on violin?

But what I really want to hear is OU.

Although I never got to hear Underware or Common People with Russell, I'm really looking forward to that. I mean, there's no way they'd be left out right?

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Well, it will be pretty easy to judge from the set-list if they're doing it for the money or not. If there's just there most commercially successfully songs -then it's obvious. If they dare (and i really hope they do) to mix in other stuff then this can be interesting.

Anyway if this has any impact in Jarvis future song-writing and music making- cheers!

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Barcroft wrote:

Does anyone know if Pulp are/ were big in Australia? as I'll be over there in the second half of next year, and would love to think I could see them there too if they were to play a bigger tour!



A box set of DC-era singles was released in Austrailia. Also, Jarvis was interviewd on their radio in 1998. I have no idea if they enjoyed commercial success, I only have one Australian friend, & he's a metaler.



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OU would be amazing, but I suppose Death comes to town or Death II would allow me to die very, very happy.

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http://www.pulppeople.com/ isn't working, weird

edit: working now, ignore me

-- Edited by loz on Wednesday 10th of November 2010 11:53:53 PM

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Death Goes to the Disco, Death II or Countdown would be super super super amazing
I just looked at the PulpPeople website - felt like I did Monday Morning all over again! So very very excited!!!!

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That revived official website turned me back into a 13 year old again just for a couple of minutes!

I'm dying to make imaginary setlists but it's just too sad! My Legendary Girlfriend would suit me. Either
Death II and Countdown would be fine by me too. On the other hand I hope they don't neclect WLL as I love a lot of tunes on there.

It'll be nice to see the band with some pals this time around. I think every time I have seen them in the past I have ended up watching on my own.

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It's probably nothing but... I was searching for Pulp videos on YouTube yesterday and it appears that they have all been taken down... Which suggests to me that there is going to be a massive marketing exercise about to take place! I hope it's Rough Trade and not an evil recond company like Island or Sony!

It suggests a record deal and new material to me! Or else they have sold everything to another record company.

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Do Pulp own their own music now (was it an original ''licenscing deal for x number of albums'' with Island?) or will their 90's/00's output always be Universals? I ak because I know Suede can now do what they want with their material - their best of has came out on Ministry of Sound records.

Who is putting up the money for promo/website for the gigs next summer? Do festival promoters give them an advance that allows the band to drum up their own interest for the reunion or how does it work?

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This really is like some sort of weird dream. I've been laid up in bed with EXTREME FLU for the last few days, and hadn't heard about the reunion (and if Russell's there, then it is a reunion, not just the coming-out-of-hibernation they'd promised would eventually happen) until just now. I wasn't as excited as I thought I might be, at least not to start with - I'm a lot *more* excited now knowing Russell's involved, and seeing the Pulp People website up and running again with all the enigmatic, self-deprecating questions made me make a loud "squee!" noise that startled the baby (oh, for anyone who's not a Facebook friend, I have a baby now, hence the lack of participation recently).

I'm still not 100% sure that I'm not just hallucinating this, but it all sounds rather promising.

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Eamonn wrote:
Do Pulp own their own music now (was it an original ''licenscing deal for x number of albums'' with Island?) or will their 90's/00's output always be Universals? I ak because I know Suede can now do what they want with their material - their best of has came out on Ministry of Sound records.
Not sure but I suspect it will still be with Universal. Didn't Suede's back catalogue only revert to them because Nude had gone bust?

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Sorry to join the discussion late. Wanted to point out that Jarvis gave a hint at a reformation several weeks ago on his radio show: Bill Drummond was expressing general displeasure at band reformations, to which Jarvis responded something like "but I have bills to pay!".

Btw, I take the 'playing songs from all through their career' comment to be a reassurance that they will play post-Senior songs, rather than a suggestion they might play pre-popularity songs.

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To answer Barcrofts question about if Pulp were big in Australia...

not really - they only ever did 1 tour and that was for This is Hardcore - but they played 3 sold out shows in Sydney..

Jarvis has toured here twice on the back of his solo records and he tends to sell out - his last tour was last December and I think he enjoys visiting us...likes our strong wine...

There is quite a niche britpop scene here - ie going to a pub in inner Sydney and pretending its 1994 playing suede and Pulp songs.

But we do have quite alot of festivals here and if they decide to go abroad - I can see one of our Aussie Festivals snapping them up...Splendour or Meredith for sure. Its bound to happen I think....

has Russell gotten over his fear of flying?





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Not sure but I suspect it will still be with Universal. Didn't Suede's back catalogue only revert to them because Nude had gone bust?

 



Their final album was on Sony, and a track (Obsessions) is included on the Ministry best of. Also, I doubt Pulp would have made a Fire-style cockup the second time around?



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I'm in touch with Pulp's/Jarvis' publicist because I'm one of the editors of a magazine in New York and she says there definitely isn't going to any press/tour dates in the US. (Mind you, she said she'd notify me if they changed their minds...)

So, if any Americans are waiting to see if they play Webster Hall or Coachella or something, don't. Go to London.



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Steve Devereux wrote:

This really is like some sort of weird dream. I've been laid up in bed with EXTREME FLU for the last few days, and hadn't heard about the reunion (and if Russell's there, then it is a reunion, not just the coming-out-of-hibernation they'd promised would eventually happen) until just now. I wasn't as excited as I thought I might be, at least not to start with - I'm a lot *more* excited now knowing Russell's involved, and seeing the Pulp People website up and running again with all the enigmatic, self-deprecating questions made me make a loud "squee!" noise that startled the baby (oh, for anyone who's not a Facebook friend, I have a baby now, hence the lack of participation recently).

I'm still not 100% sure that I'm not just hallucinating this, but it all sounds rather promising.

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I have had another exchange with his publicist, but about passes in the UK. I think it's still a 'no' to any US dates. I think they think there's no need to tour there if there isn't any new material. They don't want to play Massy Hall and Terminal 5 if they're closing Glastonbury overseas.

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I have had another exchange with his publicist, but about passes in the UK. I think it's still a 'no' to any US dates. I think they think there's no need to tour there if there isn't any new material.

They're wrong wrong wrong!! Can't Coachella just throw a pile of money at them? I'm only half-kidding!

 



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I have had another exchange with his publicist, but about passes in the UK. I think it's still a 'no' to any US dates. I think they think there's no need to tour there if there isn't any new material. They don't want to play Massy Hall and Terminal 5 if they're closing Glastonbury overseas.



Thanks.  Really depressing though because there is absolutely a need for them to tour here, even without new material.  They never gave us any dates on the farewell tour, and only the east coast got a few shows for This Is Hardcore.  So a lot of old fans never got the chance to see them, in addition to all the new ones that have been gained over the years thanks to the internet, Jarvis' solo ventures, etc.

So they're really confirmed to close Glastonbury?  I had heard they would be subbing for an American headliner on Sunday, but I really hope they do headline.  Pulp deserves it.



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Yeah, any chance we can have confirmation on that suggestion they'll be headlining Sunday? That would make my decade!

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Seriously, though; I think Pulp's influence on modern indie music and their increased popularity among a certain segment of the U.S. population has not been given enough consideration by the band. They're still a cult band here, but I think they're much, much more popular than they were when they went on hiatus. Hell, even U.S. fashion has caught up with them: big black glasses and stylish sweaters are in! Hmm, who does that remind you of?

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Perhaps Jarvis doesn't want to be associated with indie. Don't forget that those indie bands are more inspired by the His n Hers kinda sound and most of all look, since a lot of indie bands are just based on looks, than the sound the band has evolved to: We Love Life and This Is Hardcore.

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I was just being hyperbolic, I didn't ask specifically about Glastonbury. I will this week and see if she wants to dish it.

I agree about their standing in the US growing during the hiatus. And I also got screwed on the WLL and Hardcore Tours. The publicist seems pretty eager as well, so something in the band is dismissive of the US, I think.


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I agree with Mike, a Coachella headline (or next to) slot would be a decent offering to long-suffering American fans. Moreso if Pulp didn't fancy doing small gigs in NY or LA which wouldn't be too profitable. Add to that, much of the band's (Russell and Candida at least anyway) reluctance to do long bouts of touring during their heyday (and this is the first time they are in such demand since their heyday) and it's probably not surprising that a US tour is seemingly out.

It's a pity America, both North and South, get such a raw deal when it comes to seeing Pulp live. From what I've heard they seem to have a rabid fanbase in certain parts of Latin America, particularly Mexico and countries like Argentina/Chile/Brazil - sizeable enough too I'd imagine to make a tour worthwhile. Jarvis did do most of those countries a couple of years ago between the first and second solo albums. I imagine him, Steve and Nick would be up for playing faraway places but perhaps the others not so much. Russell is not keen on flying I think (?), he's got a family and I can imagine he gets bored easily of hanging around. Ditto Candida...And Mark has his own film work in the UK. Judging by comments pre-split, Pulp didn't seem to mean much to him anymore towards the end, maybe the reunion will change that.

But it's very possibly the only time they'll do this, certainly the only time where they'll have sufficient interest for them to name their price, so a world tour, though very unPulp-like in concept would be a great reward to their fans spread around the globe.

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Pulp would be a strong second-billed act at Coachella, or could headline Pitchfork or ATP NY (if that happens next year). One of these plus a handful of the major markets would be perfect. Doubt it will happen, though.

If they sold out a 3700 capacity venue in New York in 1998, what could they do in 2010?

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It would never happen, there just wouldn't be enough money in it for them, but imagine if Pulp curated ATP... it would be amazing.

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Would the Americans/Canadians among you consider traversing the Atlantic to see them play in Europe?

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If that's my only option. But do you know how expensive that is? $1300 just for the flight. We're in the middle of the second Great Depression, after all.

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I've already planned to make the trek. Just waiting to see what other shows pop up.
You can always find a flight for under $1000. Besides, its PULP!

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Not from LA, sadly. I can fly from New York for $675, but flights from LA to New York in June/July are $400+ for some reason. Yes, it's Pulp, and I'll fly out just for them, of course, but the thing is, I shouldn't have to.

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I'm traveling from Chicago for the Hyde Park gig. It worked out pretty well for me as I was planning a trip to London next year anyway, the announcement just firmed up the dates for me. But it is rather expensive to fly over these days, I remember a few years ago when you could find fares for $500 or less.

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I was planning to either visit a different country next year or stay home and be more fiscally responsible like Coachella/SXSW or Coachella/pay bills/get new computer. But PULP...it's the opportunity of a lifetime. And Glastonbury is always an amazing time, too. Well, the two times I've been. But yes, there's no place like it and seeing Pulp there would be perfect. I've spent 11 days in London, already, so I definitely need to find a different (and hopefully cheaper) place to visit between Glasto and Wireless.

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Pulp at Pitchfork?
http://festival-outlook.consequenceofsound.net/fests/view/473/pitchfork-music-festival

I thought Coachella was more likely, if even they come here at all.

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Pitchfork, for all its shortcomings, has always been a big Pulp booster. I hope this is more than just a rumor.

Avclub.com has a nice little write-up about the reunion, but for some reason this message board is making it difficult for me to post the link. Got to page 2 of "The waiting is still the hardest part: 48 of our most anticipated entertainments of 2011" and scroll to the bottom.



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yes a show in chicago would mean I could travel easily, Ideally the US venue should be in NYC....

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http://productshopnyc.com/htdocs/2011/01/pulp_to_headline_pitchfork_fes.html

More pulp at pitchfork rumours.

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This would be massively awesome if it was true (since I live in Chicago, but . . .

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Not happening :(

http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/pulp-is-absolutely-not-playing-pitchfork-music-fes,50055/

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Hmm, but that article mentions the band's publicist being Marty Diamond of Paradigm Booking. Turns out it's an American company. Does this mean they are in fact looking into playing some U.S. shows?

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Marty is also thanked on the sleeve of Further Complications. My guess is he was Jarvis' booking agent for his solo shows in the States, so is by default Pulp's US representative.

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Good point. For what it's worth, the Paradigm site's client roster lists both Jarvis solo and Pulp.

http://www.paradigmagency.com/divisions/music/clientroster/?office=ALL

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Pulp was listed on Paradigm as far back as 2009.  I saw them listed when I was poking around their site in hopes of finding any Coachella leaks or clues.  Paradigm does not post artist tour dates and availabilities like Windish, Ground Control, etc.

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Frisko2000, did you ask about a possible Glasto appearance?

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I did. They wouldn't confirm anything.

They also said that there were still no plans for US dates which was different from their response about Glastonbury. I didn't get the impression that they were dangling the possibility either.

I'm dealing with Lisa, not Marty.

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Not even Coachella? That's a bummer :(

And last-minute rumours of Pulp at Coachella are swirling like crazy, naturally. Guess we will find out in a couple days.

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Not even Coachella? That's a bummer :(


And last-minute rumours of Pulp at Coachella are swirling like crazy, naturally. Guess we will find out in a couple days.


Ok. Lets break it down.

Without an album to promote or a label to support them, I can't see Pulp playing in North America unless someone offers them a huge sum of money. Festival backers are going to be very cautious about paying Pulp the headliner fees when Pulp's drawing power in the North America is so difficult to gauge.

The Pitchfork Festival is a tiny festival (basically a glorified street fair with an indie-schmindie line-up). They don't even have advertising or corporate sponsorship. I'm sure they want Pulp, but there's just no way Pitchfork can afford them. If Pulp should choose to play Pitchfork it will be an act of generousity... or unless they want to do some more sessions with Steve Albini.

I reckon there are 3 festivals in North America that could afford Pulp: Coachella, Bonnaroo, and Lollapalooza. (I was going to add Virgin Fest, but I'm not sure if it's still active?)

Coachella likes to model itself after English festivals and loves headlining UK bands. I'm sure they are aggressively courting Pulp. The problem is that Coachella takes place in April, which may be too soon for the band. Also, Pulp might not want to play their inaugural gig in America, where they're not sure how they will be received... unless of course they see it as a good place to get their sea legs back.

Bonnaroo isn't Pulp's environment at all. The festival gravitates toward alt-country artists, although they did host Radiohead a few years back. I bet Jarvis would love to play Bonnaroo since he's become such a country music aficionado in recent years, but I can't see the festival going for it. Pulp's fans won't have any interest in the rest of the line-up, and the country fans won't have any interest in Pulp. I could see fan-on-fan violence erupting.

Lollapalooza is the most mainstream of the N.A. festivals, and there is no way they'd choose Pulp as a headliner. Lolla goes for the Top 40 artists (expect Lady Gaga... and Kanye West is a perennial favourite), although the fest has managed to cull together some impressive line-ups for the secondary stages in the past. If Pulp were promoting an album I could see them doing Lolla, but I can't see why they'd bother to travel all the way to Chicago to play a small stage for a small paycheque. Lolla doesn't give a damn about Pulp and they aren't going to shell out good money for them. 

Now let's consider dates.

CONFIRMED FESTIVALS:
Primavera Sound - May 26-28
ISle of Wight - June 10-12
Wireless Fest - July 1-3

LIKELY FESTIVALS:
Glastonbury - June 24-26


Coachella April 15-17
Bonnaroo June 9-12
Pitchfork Festival July 16-18
Lollapalooza August 5-7

Bonnaroo is right out. It conflicts with Isle of Wight.

Pitchfork seems awfully close to Wireless Fest, and would seem a letdown after the massive thrill of Glastonbury and Wireless.

Coachella's dates work and it does look like the most likely candidate. But again, it may be too soon for the band to pull themselves together, and why would Pulp perform their first show in America?

Lollapalooza's dates work, but again, there is no way they'll get a headliner spot.

Who knows, they might surprise and play both Coachella and Lollapalooza. You can never really predict what Pulp will do.

P.S. Why would you want to see Pulp at Coachella when the tickets cost an extortionate $300. Might as well fly to Europe and see a proper show (and other proper things) for that price.

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Because even after camping, transportation, and overpriced food, drink, and psychedelics, coachella would be around $700. It would be at least $2500 to do glasto and wireless. Already spent enough time in london to last a lifetime. Glasto is definitely a better festival experience that is second to none, but coachella's lineups tend to be better nowadays (2009 being an exception) and I know many people going and wouldn't have to watch pulp alone. And there are some ridiculous acts rumored and if some of them turn out true, I can't miss that. I had a group of people that came to glasto last year and none of them are returning this year. It would be nice to share the experience of pulp, something I have waited a lifetime for, with a friend, friends, or someone more.

Even if they did coachella, I would still have to see a full show since nonheadliners get 50 minutes (sometimes 70 a la the verve, massive attack, pavement), but I could do primavera too since its cheaper than going to england for two weeks. For $2500 I could do coachella and either pitchfork or any new york shows that they do and still have money left over for a new computer or to see radiohead when they tour again or save.

The short of it is, if pulp won't come here, then I willstill go to them, but I know a lot of people that can't do that.

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I really, really hope they do some warm up gigs in the UK (and give priority tickets to people on this site ;) )

Am going travelling at the start of June so can only make Primavera. The cost is one problem, but the difficulty of dragging a friend or two out to Spain to see Pulp is another.

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that's my problem too - well going to spain isn't a problem but none of my pals want to come!  maybe we should have a bar italia pulp meet up for primavera, so we don't look like a bunch of jimmynaepals on our own (scottish for billy no mates)

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My problem is I'm going to be in Spain - Barcelona, even! - the WEEKEND BEFORE! :(
I fly back on the Monday. Don't have enough holiday or money to extend by 8 days & buy tickets :(

BUT if there's still tickets left for IoW when I get paid on the 27th of this month I WILL go to that.
Fingers crossed please, people!

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Weener, I will keep you posted on that mate as I wouldn't mind doing that. Watch this space :D

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Well I'm going to Barcelona alone, so I'd be happy to meet any fellow Pulp fans over there.

I've travelled solo overseas a few times before, including Barcelona. Don't let it put you off going, it's still easily possible to have a good time!

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