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Okay, guys, here's what I found:

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Well the original version of that song was by Laura Branigan and does bare a resemblance . Apparently Deborah was originally called Gloria, but they changed it slightly to avoid litigation, but there's this as well which could be seen as source material for D2K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26wEWSUUsUc&feature=fvst

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Elton? Nah, I don't think so. I can see the parallel, but... Saturday Night's a bit too fast, unless they just chose to rework it and slow it down. Who knows.

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Well obviously the riff from Disco 2000 is a direct lift from 'Gloria' (which wasn't actually originally by Laura Branigan- it was an Italo Disco song first, with different lyrics). The ripping off is surely the point- taking a riff from an extremely uncool camp disco song and putting it in a camp disco pastiche, it's funny and daft. It's hardly plagiarism.

I have no idea if they had to pay royalties to the writers of the 'Gloria' song, I presume not as only Pulp are credited on the album sleeve, it's a two note riff so I just reckon it would have been far too difficult for anyone to prove that they originally wrote it.

Sarah, where did you hear that Deborah was originally going to be called Gloria? It seems very unlikely, as Deborah was actually someone Jarv knew from school, I've read him talk about the Disco 2000 lyrics loads and he's never mentioned the Gloria thing.

Sounds nothing like Saturday Night, although all Pulp songs from this time definitely sounded pretty glam rock.

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Oh hang on, I forgot about the instrumental in the Elton song, I can definitely see what you're getting at there, it sounds very similar. Which is exactly my point- it's just a sus 4 chord which is used is loads of songs, so it would be very hard to accuse anyone of ripping anyone off (even though Pulp blatantly did!)

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Wasn't Disco 2000 known as Gloria when originally demoed for Different Class, (presumably before Jarvis necked that cheap Spanish brandy and wrote the lyrics for it)? Pretty sure I've read that somewhere. It seems they knew what they were doing alright.

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It's vaguely similar but not the same. As a musician point of view, this cant be considered plagiarism. At all.

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It's such a simple riff and with that 'disco' vibe it could be heard on many recordings before Pulp did it. From a point of view of copyright law if someone tryed to sue Pulp for "stealing" it then Pulp's lawyers would just find someone else who had done it and point the finger at them and say "well you have stolen it from..."

Whilest we're on the subject of songs sounding alike - I have just this minute realised that 'Crazy' from James' latest album has a hint of 'Happy Endings' to it!

A coincidence I'm sure as it's just a rather lovely chord sequence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFVLiFSEmc

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