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http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/pulp-to-reform_1122108



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FFS will that man make up his bloody mind already!!

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-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Thursday 12th of November 2009 07:49:50 PM

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I think he's having further complications

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It was always going to happen one day - I've never lost faith.

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don't count your chickens yet!

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LaLaLaLa - I'm not listening!

It will happen, not next year though.

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He needs the money!
Do you think the PULP money has finally dried up? Did the ex take half his worth?
Maybe he's doing the radio show cuz he needs the money.
I cant wait for day!


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Oh yeah he probably got ripped off in the divorce....

If there's a reunion, i hope it wont be for the money though.

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Well do yo think that the rest of the band is up for it? (like russell)


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Dunno. I don't think Russell would, given that Guardian article. Mark's another grey area as well, what with his lecturing, film curation on both side of the Atlantic, studying himself, and writing a book or several books on Avant garde film, he's a very busy man. Plus, as has been raised here before, towards the end he was becoming increasingly detached from the whole music thing.

Candida....well according to her cousin Max, who I used to go to sixth form college with, Candida was suffering terrible arthritis in her hands, so bad in fact that at times she could barely straighten her fingers and judging that it was over ten years ago that he told me this, God knows how bad her condition has got now.

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Too late for anything
Ta-ra...)))

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Cynical. I think if they want to do it they will. On one hand it may not be up to standard and it may all be a terrible embarrassing mess (but we haven't lost what went before do there's nothing to loose). On the other hand it may be the greatest reform ever! I certainly have friends who have discovered Pulp since 2002 and would love to see them play. I'd love to see them together again even if it was a bit of a one off!

And if you look at Jarvis of late he's certainly been on good form live and puts as much into it as he ever did.

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Well, i would like to be positive, i mean if it really would happen it would be great. But I'm not too sure that neither Russell or Mark would be up for it. Scene Candida was playing with Jarvis some time ago on some tv-show...who knows?

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Candida also played a song with Jarvis at the Roundhouse a couple of years back.

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Well I'm just telling you what her cousin told me....anywho

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I don't think the song she played would have required too much in the way of tricky fingerwork from what I remember.

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I don't think she ever did any tricky work with her fingers.I'm Not having a pop - It's one of the things I love about Pulp is that none of them seem to be great musicians in theory but they are very creative and muddle on somehow to produce great work!

When Jarvis said at Glastonbury 1995, "if a lanky get like me can do it and us lot, then you can do it too" - I started taking guitar lessons and writing songs. I told Jarvis that in person and he laughed! He was really rather embarrased and modest about it -



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A Pulp reunion would be rubbish, there's no point in it. And I'm not sure whether Nick Banks would do it, he's a family-friend of a friend, not sure what he's doing but he's nicely settled in Sheffield with some young kids (my friends sister babysits for them) and he's hardly loaded or anything, so it would be risky for him to pretty much change his life and go back on the road with Pulp.

Just accept it- it's not going to happen. I reckon Jarvis will end up playing Pulp songs as part of his solo set eventually though.

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I vote yes. I reckon Pulp could still make another great album too.

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I am also not sure if Jarvis would get down to doing this, not sure he can actually be bothered to go through all the hassle unless he is really skint.
Did anyone watch the interview on youtube with Absolute where he said he had no plans on playing music the next year or so? he got asked if he was playing any festivals.
As it's been said, he will prob add some pulp songs to his solo sets in the future, same as Moz did in the end.

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I await a contradicting story next week. I'll believe it when I see it I think. There's a nice video here where he talks about the recent residency and a bit about Pulp.

http://www.nme.com/news/jarvis-cocker/48449



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Well, U2 is headlining. Hopefully one of the remaining "surprises" is Pulp.

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U2 headlining?  So every cloud (me not being able to go to Glastonbury) has a silver-lining after all!

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yes the crashing bores of Bono and co! ZZzzzz. so some people reckon the saturday headliners may be the Stones, could we be looking at a possibility of Pulp headlining Sun night?

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Pulp > U2

Snap out of it Jarvis and get PULP together!!

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SarahAWilson wrote:

Well I'm just telling you what her cousin told me....




 She was probably just moaning, just like how she hated touring and playing particular songs. It´s alright though, tis a woman´s prerogative...and she was the only one in the band. wink



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calumlynn wrote:

A Pulp reunion would be rubbish, there's no point in it. And I'm not sure whether Nick Banks would do it, he's a family-friend of a friend, not sure what he's doing but he's nicely settled in Sheffield with some young kids (my friends sister babysits for them) and he's hardly loaded or anything, so it would be risky for him to pretty much change his life and go back on the road with Pulp.

Just accept it- it's not going to happen. I reckon Jarvis will end up playing Pulp songs as part of his solo set eventually though.



When Nick was asked on t´radio last year about a Pulp reunion his answer was fairly blunt: ´´It´s up to his nibs´´ (referring to Jarvis).

Nicely settled or not, Nick is a normal bloke who doesn´t upset the applecart, is down to earth and very obliging as Sturdy will testify. The perfect type of person to have in a band really.

And remember, when he joined Pulp he couldn´t believe his luck at becoming a member of his ´´favourite band´´. If there was to be a reunion I´d be confident that Nick would be the first to agree to it.

 



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calumlynn wrote:
Pulp reunion would be rubbish, there's no point in it....

Just accept it- it's not going to happen. I reckon Jarvis will end up playing Pulp songs as part of his solo set eventually though.
I agree, By the time his nibs does decide to do it, at best it would be half baked.  Can't see any former guitarist being part of it.  The best solution is for Jarvis to play more Pulp songs in his set, and maybe the odd song or two from Relaxed Muscle and other collaborations.  Always the same with solo artists, after a while they start to delve into their locker.

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I agree with Calum and ArrGee. Except about Relaxed Muscle - ugh.

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Would any of us want Different Class and a couple of singles from other albums to constitute a reunion?

If Pulp come back they should evolve.

Without a new album, for me there is no point.

Hawley should be involved. Mackey would be involved. It does seem likely that Webber and Senior would not be interested but it'd be nice of Nick Banks to be involved if only for a familiar face. I had no idea about the above post about Candida but can see no other reasons why she would not want to be back in Pulp.

I really could not care for Pulp to go through the motions like Blur did, yeah it was good but i'm not a massive Blur fan. I want to hear seperations tracks, I'd love to hear Intro tracks.

Hawley is the key, his popularity and stature have increased massively since Pulp went on hiatus.

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Sturdy wrote:

I agree with Calum and ArrGee. Except about Relaxed Muscle - ugh.




Come on now Sturdy. Relaxed Muscle was pretty good fun.

 

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I'm not a big Relaxed Muscle fan either. I thought I was the only one.

I never considered Hawley a member of Pulp, just a friend/collaborator. Don't think he's essential to any reunion.

Whenever I think out loud around here about reunion stuff, lineups, etc., it's just for fun.

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I guess it depends on what you want from a reunion?

If it's a cash grab (don't misunderstand me - They all deserve the cash) and it'll involve 'best of' set lists, i'm not interested.

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thomas_bland wrote:
Sturdy wrote:
I agree with Calum and ArrGee. Except about Relaxed Muscle - ugh.

Come on now Sturdy. Relaxed Muscle was pretty good fun.

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And you're welcome to them!

Didn't mind the first EP, but the album is the only Jarvis-related release (excluding collaborations) that I never bought. Bored rock star makes deliberately bad music for his own amusement? If you ask me, life really is too short.

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thomas_bland wrote:

Would any of us want Different Class and a couple of singles from other albums to constitute a reunion?

If Pulp come back they should evolve.

Without a new album, for me there is no point.

Hawley should be involved. Mackey would be involved. It does seem likely that Webber and Senior would not be interested but it'd be nice of Nick Banks to be involved if only for a familiar face. I had no idea about the above post about Candida but can see no other reasons why she would not want to be back in Pulp.

I really could not care for Pulp to go through the motions like Blur did, yeah it was good but i'm not a massive Blur fan. I want to hear seperations tracks, I'd love to hear Intro tracks.

Hawley is the key, his popularity and stature have increased massively since Pulp went on hiatus.




I don't think Hawley is they key at all- firstly, he was never an OFFICIAL Pulp member, and secondly as his solo career is doing so well, why would he put that aside and reform a band he was never properly part of in the first place, playing other peoples songs?

The Blur shows were amazing, but it worked because it was the original line up and there was unfinished business between the band and Graham, and also because they never properly split up (you can say the same about Pulp up to a point, but Auto was very much their 'signing-off' gig- they pretty much knew it was the end).

A Pulp reunion in the same vain wouldn't work without a classic 90s line up, and would realistically have to include either Senior or Webber. Anyone who saw Blur this year will notice they didn't exactly dwell on the later Think Tank stuff (despite it being their best album..) and the same would be true for Pulp, not many people would want to see Pulp for the WLL songs, so Hawley in the reunion would make even less sense.

To be honest, I don't want Jarvis to sing Pulp songs in his solo set. It's far too early, people would only come to the gigs to hear Pulp material and it would completely remove the point of Jarvis as a solo artist.

I'd love Pulp to reform to make another album, not because I want to experience the old songs live. I know what Pulp were like live, I've watched dvds and youtube clips- it's not the same as being there, but then neither would seeing them play the songs 15 years on.



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It would have to be at least Jarvis/Mackey/Doyle/Banks/Webber to make it worth it. Russel would be fantastic to see.

I've put this on the back burner again. I just can't see it happening in the next year and as with most things Pulp - they will probably miss the boat on this one and get the timing all wrong.

I have been refraining from comparing a Pulp reunion with the Blur one - but the way I feel about is that Blur did have unfinished business with Coxon onboard. As I missed Auto and as I now know many people who have discovered Pulp since 2002 I feel like I have unfinshed business with Pulp!

I saw Pulp 3 times and 2 of those I stood and watched on my own. I was too young to travel to Auto but always thought to myself that I'd want to be at Pulp's last concert. The way it happend I didn't really believe that was the end. I think it maybe time to resign myself to the fact that perhaps it was.

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weed wrote:

I now know many people who have discovered Pulp since 2002 I feel like I have unfinshed business with Pulp!


This is so true!

 



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I hated Relaxed Muscle

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