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Fact. biggrin

After enduring 4 hours of Hollis Frampton and about 2 hours of a variety of films, I managed to get to speak to Mark whilst he was outside having a cigarette. He wasn't  angry or tried to have me arrested. In fact when I said hello to him he smiled. He was all in beige, which kind of suited him, and shivering because he'd forgotten to bring a coat. He does look older, the vividly dyed red hair of his late
20's are gone, replaced with a sort of mousy colour and a rather noticable white patch right at the back ( it may have been there originally, but because he dyed his hair we never saw it). One of his front teeth is chipped, he has a few more lines on his face and he wears glasses, but he's still Mark and he's still wonderful. I wanted to take a picture, but it didn't feel right. Maybe I'll ask him tomorrow. He actually asked me if I was coming to the screening on Sunday and when I said yes, he said "I'll see you then"


It was small talk really, hi, how are you, it's been nine years etc, mentioned a mutual friend that I bumped into earlier that used to post on the same film forum as him. According to a rather dishy Spanish installation artist called Hector who I met during the interval, apparently he lectures at The London College of communications now.


He seems really, really happy. Even cracking little jokes when he was introducing the films, in that buttery soft, slightly nervous voice he has.   It put paid to the idea of him being a grumpy sod. Sorry guys, I don't think I'll be able to bring up the Glastonbury issue with him. It wouldn't be fair, in fact it would be rude.

Unless he brings it up first that is.

I did notice something as he was a smoking. Now I may have been mistaken, but I could have sworn there was a tiny little patch of bright red nail varnish on his left index finger....

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Saturday 24th of October 2009 10:30:54 PM

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So... will we be invited to the wedding?!

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Great stuff...thanks for sharing Sarah. I certainly wouldn´t expect you to start hassling him with Pulp questions but if you do get to talk to him again, let him know that there are people on this forum who were asking for him and happy that he seems to be doing what he wants.

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Did you not even tell him how much we love him here on Bar Italia? cry

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Sorry Eamonn, I didn't. hmm Considering that my greatest fear going to Experimenta (my legs were actually shaking as I walked through Waterloo Station) was that Mark would be upset or angry at me for daring to come and would have me escorted off the premises or at worst, arrested.

When I saw he wasn't to bothered, and was quite happy to talk, I really didn't want to push him. It would not have been fair, because he seemed really happy.

Plus I really shy up when he talks to me wink

Now I'm signed up to Secret Cinema, there is every oppurtunity that our paths will cross again, but I'm going to take it easy and not repeat the same mistakes I made as a starstruck and barmy teenager.

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Friday 30th of October 2009 07:24:11 PM

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SarahAWilson wrote:

but I'm going to take it easy and not repeat the same mistakes I made as a starstruck and barmy teenager.

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Friday 30th of October 2009 07:24:11 PM




oh please do! Being starstruck is an absolutley lovely feeling smile.



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I admire your restraint Sarah. I seem to always make a complete tit out of myself! Hence Jarvis laughing at me there in my pic!



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I'm amazed I was so restrained as well, when every fibre of my soul wanted to fling my arms around his neck and kiss him to bits.

-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Saturday 31st of October 2009 08:53:59 PM

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Hahaha! I´m sure he wouldn´t have minded...and if he did, he´d probably be too shy to stop you!

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Forgive me if this sounds rather mean but what is so good about Webber? I mean, I honestly wouldn't care if there was some form of Pulp reunion and he wasn't involved. Out of all the members I'm not sure what he brought to the table other than the staple indie guitar sound that stopped the band from making different types of records post Different Class. If we were talking about Senior then I could understand it. I don't hate him or anything - I'm just indifferent.


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Ok, you asked for it

1) Mark is a highly capable polyinstrumentalist capable of switching instruments in the middle of a song and not losing momentum at the cross over point, see "Trees" at Eden and F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E post 2000.

2) During the early 90's not only was he playing live with the band, but also acted as their tour manager and president of the fan club. To bear such responsibilty when one is barely in one's 20's is truly astounding. I know 20-somethings that can barely manage their own hair! I know it was initially Russell that set the fan club up originally, but Mark set a high precident that was carried on superbly by Alex Deck until the fan club was suspended in 2002. Least you forget, in the early days, when you became a member, Mark would send a personal HANDWRITTEN letter, thanking you for your support. Name me another fan club that showed that much heart.

3) To label Mark as "a generic indie guitarist" is ridiculous. I defy anyone who has heard the track he remixed for Thurston Moore's "Root" album, to suggest it sounds like anything Mark has performed before or since.  If I may be so bold as to take a quote from Mark Scott, Pulp's senior guitar technician from an article in Melody Maker 98.

"He plays quite strangely, he's definitely got his own sound."
 
The reason that Jarvis wasw able to develop his unusual yet instantly recognisable stage craft, was that Mark freed him from the responsibily of having to actually "play" on stage. I know for a few songs, "Babies" "Sorted" "LBS" he does play guitar, but for the bulk of the song during the initial stages of his live career, Mark was Jarvis's musical, erm, for want of a better word, avatar.

4) Name me another contemporary guitarist that had their own regular club night at the ICA. Mark set up "Little Stabs at Happiness" as a reaction to the abject banality of the London club scene. Where else could you find somewhere which combined a cult cinema screening with a "School Disco" all for the princely sum of £8? biggrin. Little Stabs ran for three years, was usually packed to the rafters, and in a poll in 1999 came 13th in Time Out's "100 Coolist things in London". In comparison the Met Bar, one of the most notorious A-list night spots at the time came only 83rd!

5) Mark is a highly intelligent man with an incredibly inquistive mind (developed as a teenage fanzine writer in the 80's one assumes). Anyone who has read his articles on avant -garde and artists films or been to the screenings he curates at various can see that. And his enthusiasm stems not from academic nescessity or reasoning - unlike Jarvis and Steve, Mark did not initially attend art college, but from a desire to see and to "know" these films.  Many times he goes to the source - the directors of these films, himself, interviews them, interagates them, probes them about their work. Alreaady he has co-authored a book with film maker Owen Land, looking in detail at two of Land's most recognisable short films, and is current writing a book on the history of Avant-garde film. In his curation work he tirelessly delves into the vaults, both at British and American institutions and brings to light many beautiful if somewhat neglected and forgotten pieces of work, that may have at one time, inspired the great film makers of today. Mark is not only pupil but he is teacher, not only educating the public at his screening, not by drowning his viewers in information, but by giving the briefest of notes and introductions and then showing the films, giving the public the oppurtunity to make their own minds up about what the message, if any the film or the film maker is trying to convey. He also lectures at the London College of Communications, introducing new generations of film students to the rare and sometimes bizarre delights of "avant garde and artists' moving image.

6) Mark has a great sense of humility. He rarely if ever mentions his past achievements to draw the public to his exhibits. He doesn't really need to, his work speaks for itself. When in public, he walks alone, and need no entourage to steer him around. No. You can just walk up to him, and talk to him, query him about his work, without having to be vetted by a publicity agent (due to the nature of his work, Mark is himself his own publicity agent). He listens to what you have to say and he will respond to it. If you put forth your hand, he will shake it.


-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Sunday 1st of November 2009 09:58:50 PM

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7) By his own admission, Richard Hawley, one of the most reputable British solo performers of recent years, in an interview with Marc Riley last month, described Mark as

"A great guitar player. Really, really good"

8)Mark's contibutions to the actual album recordings, may extend further then the those accredited to him on Different Class. He has a definate credit on some of the "Intro" material and if this article http://www.acrylicafternoons.com/webber95.html

is to be believed he actually wrote part of "Do You Remember the First Time", to which he remains uncredited. If that is so, what else does Mark remain uncredited for due to his unofficial status within the band at this time? If there is any doubt that Mark was a pretty constant presence during the recording of the pre DC recordings, I refer you to the "home movies" section of the HITS dvd. If you rubbish my theory, as being based on one small sequence, where a young Mark is seen tuning Steve's bass, ask yourself, for the majority of that DVD chapter, who is holding the camera.

9) On Pg 265 of "Truth and Beauty", Nick Banks goes into detail about Mark's contribution and eventual admission into the band. I suggest you read it.



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10) I am sick to death of articles stating that Mark was brought in to replace Russell and in someway contributed to his leaving the group. What nonsence. Mark was already contributing to the band (in live performance anyhow) from December 1991, more than a full 5 years before Russell left. In fact from what I can pick up from various sources, including TAB, Mark and Russell were quite close. The "Herbal Tea" story is an inground part of the Pulp mythology and both of them worked very heavily in band administration and organisation and as I have mentioned before both of them laid the foundations for "Pulp People" which helped cement the fan base which as you can see from this forum, is still very much in operation.

11) Steven Havenhand, former Pulp bassist and regular poster to this very forum, has gone on record in previous posts to describe Mark's overwhelming enthusiasm as a teenager helping out at various gigs during the late 80's.

Did you get on with the then young and impressionable Mark Webber or did he just get on your nerves hanging round all the time? 
I though it was great that Mark & co were so keen on us. He never got on my nerves, I thought he was a sweetie. 


-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Monday 2nd of November 2009 12:00:26 AM

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Thanks for that Sarah. I wasn't trolling and your answers were what I was hoping for. I should add that the solo on Sunrise is also some great Webber guitar. I didn't know about the Thurston Moore links so i'll check that out.

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-- Edited by SarahAWilson on Monday 2nd of November 2009 09:33:40 AM

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Fucking hell Thomas! You had to ask didn't you!

I have always had Webber down as a little quiet genius. In addition to everything above - Who does the guitar solo on 'Common People'?!

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Post of the (any) year Sarah.

I think he was by far the most musically competent member in Pulp which some people misconstrue as him being a main reason for Pulp sounding ´´less interesting´´ after Russell and his idiosyncratic violin/guitar playing left.




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I think that was a can of worms waiting to be opened! To be fair - I could have asked the same question. I like Mark. he's underrated!

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