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Here's your chance to get involved with the creation of something rather special for the Pulp community!

As many of you know, Pulp's Eden Project gig was broadcast on BBC Choice in July 2002 and hasn't been seen since. We've been hoping for an official release for years but it's not forthcoming, so I thought it's about time we make our own unofficial release! So, here it is...

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That's provisional artwork by the way, but you get the idea! I've been working hard on remastering the video from my own VHS copy of the broadcast - the source for the widely-shared AVI file on the Internet - and thanks to fellow forum member Perfect we've been able to improve the audio too, so it will be a treat to watch!

Now it would be easy just to burn the finished result onto a DVD and leave it at that, but I thought it would be good to go all the way and add some extras! For a start, we know the entire gig exists as an audience recording - http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/EdenBootleg - and I'm asking now for some very generous Pulp Person to come forward with their copy of it so I can include the whole gig on the disc! Many of us would love to hear the full concert, particularly 'I Want You' which was criminally absent from the BBC broadcast, not to mention Jarvis' other thoughts...

Does anyone have photos from the day, or even camcorder footage? The Acrylic Afternoons website has a review of the gig which mentions there were a couple of people filming the soundcheck, which included 'My Legendary Girlfriend', a song which wasn't played in the main set - wouldn't it be great if we could get that out there to share with loyal Pulp fans?

When the materials are all ready to assemble, I'll master the DVD - complete with pretty custom-made menus - and we'll look at the best way to get it out there. The DVD will of course be completely free to all and no money is going to be made from its creation, that's not what we're about - it's all about getting commercially unavailable Pulp rarities to their loyal fans.

Hopefully we can create something pretty special here, and if the support is there I'd love to work on future releases - there's loads of TV appearances lying around on old videotapes that could be given some love and care, and I know many of us have been praying for a proper DVD of Glastonbury 1995 for years now...


-- Edited by Pip on Thursday 17th of September 2009 09:24:25 PM

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Pip, you're far too lovely.
And the artwork is superb.
I have tons of Pulp bootlegs, unfortunately not this one though.

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I agree the artwork looks great.

I do have a copy of the full audience recording. I'll upload it for you in the next day or so.

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Will - you are a legend, thanks very much! This is going to be epic.

Still looking for any photos or home videos from the day though, so get in touch if you have something to share!

I forgot to ask actually - does anyone want to write the sleevenotes for the back cover? About 100 words should do it... I can do it myself, but if someone fancies contributing?


-- Edited by Pip on Thursday 17th of September 2009 09:54:27 PM

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Pip, I have a few bootleg videos I bought from Camden in the mid - late 90's that are gathering dust, due to the fact I have no VCR. Fantastic fan shot footage - including V96 and the inorgaral outing of "Help the Aged" including Russell. Also some rare overseas live performances and interviews, including video footage of the infamous loreley concert from  1998, alas I think it cuts off before Jarvis and Mark's interview.

If you want I could send these to you?

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Sounds really good Sarah! I've got the Loreley 98 gig, taped it off German satellite at the time, but it could be that your copy may be better than mine in places... so yeah, if you posted them to me I would make a transfer and send them back to you ASAP.

Never seen any of the V96 footage - perhaps that can be DVD #2 if Eden goes to plan! smile.gif

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pm me your addy and i'll dust them off and send them asap.

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Here are the download links:
Part 1 - http://www.mediafire.com/?2odrntomwmy
Part 2 - http://www.mediafire.com/?loezytdanme

The files are in loseless .flac format - I hope that's okay.  They can be converted into mp3s or whatever format is required for the DVD.

The sound quality is listenable. There is quite a lot of crowd noise, as you would expect with an audience recording.  Also, on some tracks there are a occasional crackles and other sound faults.

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I don't mind that they're in FLAC format at all Will, in fact I welcome it, we want to use the highest quality sources after all. I'll convert them to WAV and see if I can potentially fix some of the faults and improve on the overall quality - not expecting miracles from an audience recording but it's priceless stuff all the same.

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Just to let you all know I'm onto the DVD menus now, so nearly there!

My original VHS recording was made in 4:3 letterbox (black bars top and bottom) and I was looking at the possibility of presenting 'Eden' in full widescreen (16:9) but after trying this out the 'zooming in' and added re-encoding resulted in a pretty noticeable drop in resolution, so I'm making an executive decision so to speak and leaving it as 4:3 letterbox - those of you with widescreen TVs can of course 'pan and scan' to zoom in, should you need to!

We hope one day the Beeb will repeat it in full but until then, this will do nicely!

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Well in a couple of years Eden will be 10 years old, so maybe we'll just have to sit tight and be patient and see if they do some celebratory programming.



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I'm proud to report work on the first release of Fuss Free Productions (that's the name I've decided on) has been completed! 

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Pulp: Live At The Eden Project (DVD) contains:

* The 60 minute BBC Choice broadcast transferred directly from a master off-air VHS recording with much improved sound (thanks to forum member Lizzie aka Perfect) and digitally remastered picture quality. Presented in 4:3 letterbox format.

* The unedited 98 minute long audience recording (kindly provided by Will) with improved audio, accompanied by a specially made 16:9 widescreen slideshow displaying some gorgeous photos of the Eden Project.

* Custom made DVD menu (based on the cover artwork which shall be made available online soon).

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There are plenty of releases to come in the future (I've already received five VHS tapes containing plenty of rare material even I have never seen) but if you have anything you would like to share with the loyal Pulp/Jarv fanbase please contact me by PM!

Now, question is, is anyone interested in owning this release and how shall it be distributed?


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Oh Pip, you are simply the best! Sign me up for a copy sweetie!

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Sounds like a great job! I'll definitely have me one of those!

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Wonderful, What an effort...! Of cores i want one too!

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This whole project is great!!

 The artwork really suites and i'm sure the footage will look/sound great.

I'd absolutely love to get a copy. I'll be more than happy to pay whatever via paypal.


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me too!

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Pfft. No Disco 2000 lol.

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Sign me up!

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Edd wrote:

This whole project is great!!

The artwork really suites and i'm sure the footage will look/sound great.

I'd absolutely love to get a copy. I'll be more than happy to pay whatever via paypal.



Put your money away Edd, I don't want any money involved, bar postage/disc costs.

Do most people have access to torrent software? I could make it available that way initially...



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No you wont. Tell them straight Pip, you Ł10 per DVD with postage included. That covers your disc, the case, the paper, the ink, the envelope, the cost of postage and leaves you Ł8.27 to get yourself some sweets and juice.

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As nice as the sweets and juice would be in prison... smile.gif

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I'm also very interested.  Nice work, Pip.



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I'm definitely interested in a copy too. I'm happy to cover postage/disc costs. Downloading it from a torrent would be fine as well.

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hi pip, have you made a decision on which way you will distribute your hard work?
If you torrent I will seed for as long as is necessary.

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I think torrenting is probably the way forward. Won't be too long till I'm ready to start seeding.

Meanwhile, the artwork is finished and looks pretty acceptable:

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You wont be doing any limited edition autographed copies then?

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I just sign things with Mr X.

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Oh wow Pip, that looks incredible!

I doubt with the work you've done with Eden, you've had a chance to look at the stuff that I sent you at all?

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I've had a quick look, made a list of everything that's there (quite a lot!) and I'll see about starting work on a new release soon. smile.gif

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Nice.

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Okay everyone, I'll start seeding the DVD from early on Wednesday morning so be ready...

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Come on pippy baby we're ready for yoooooooouuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol im just joking.

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Finally...

http://www.mininova.org/tor/3000301

Enjoy and remember to keep seeding!


-- Edited by Pip on Tuesday 29th of September 2009 08:54:32 PM

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Ok, I'm downloading....how do I start seeding when I'm done?

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Thanks pip, downloading now.
What sort of download speed is everyone achieving at the moment?
(want to check I am using the best software)

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Thank you Pip! This is amazing of you (and the people who chipped in) to do!

SarahAWilson: Just leave your torrent running after it hits 100% and you will be seeding. :)

zaqx: My torrent is running between 50-90 kb/s

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From my stats I see I've uploaded over 7GB worth of data so far, and a couple of people are nearly at 100% - if that's you, please continue seeding so everyone else can get there smile.gif

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my progress is very slow at the moment, 20-30k. lots of peers downloading but not uploading.

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already shared 3 gigs, going @ 70 to 90 kbs... almost done !

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Damned T-mobile. I got Broadband restrictions up at the mo so I can't ul/dl until midnight. Arse.

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Was going at lightning speed for me at about 3:00 this afternoon. Hit 1mb/s at one point! Now it's slumped right down to 30-50kb/s on average.

Still...can't wait either way!

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This is brilliant. Thanks. The artwork looks amazing too.

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This is probably a right "n00b" question...but once it has downloaded, is there anything special I have to do when copying it over onto a DVD to get it to work on a conventional player, other than just copying all the files from the folder across to the DVD's root directory...?

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What software do you use Leo?

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For Torrenting or DVD burning...?

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Sorry, DVD burning...

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"Sonic RecordNow!" Just a program that came bundled with my Packard Bell computer.

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Not familiar with that program, but you want to be looking for something like Video, DVD or DVD Video, my software says "DVD Video_TS" - anyway the idea is that you copy the contents of the 'VIDEO_TS' folder in the torrent directly into the corresponding folder in the software... the AUDIO_TS is (and always is) empty.

Maybe someone else who has used it can help out?

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Hi, I'm really bad at this torrent-thing and fore some reason it just doesn't work for me..cry i was going to write something like "is there any other way to download it" but i guess the file's to big for let's say a zip. or a rar folder?

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Just get Utorrent, its really easy to use. If you need help let me know !

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UTorrent is what I use too. Of course, those who aren't able to download it could ask others to trade/make a copy for them... do as you please, just don't sell/buy it :)

By the way, if anyone has any feedback, please share it! I'll be starting on DVD2 soon....


-- Edited by Pip on Thursday 1st of October 2009 09:00:10 PM

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Get a torrent tracker, the best one by far is Utorrent and it's free!

Check your firewall status. Sometimes if your security setting is too high it won't allow your tracker to work.

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Well done pip! The care and thought gone into this DVD is great- even down to using a pulp font for some of the DVD menus.
My wishlist for DVD 2 would be jools holland hootenanny 2002 performances, and other we love life tv stuff such as bad cover version/weeds from Jo whiley's 'the cut' channel 4. I had these on VHS but are now 'lost'....

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Glad you liked it!

I have the Jools 2002 performances on video, but I didn't tape "The Cut" - anyone that did and is willing to loan me the tape should get in touch... we're looking for the best quality possible, naturally!

Actually, I should probably upload the list of what I have and what is missing, then we can see if we can get everything on DVD someday smile.gif

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thanks everyone, the tip on Utorrent worked! :)

and just out of curiosity, how long did it take for you all to download?

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Ok Pip, be good to see that list of stuff you have and are missing- never know I may be able to fill some of the gaps?

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Because I'm using Mobile Broadband it's going to take me at least 2 weeks to d/l blankstare

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Oh glad to hear that I'm not alone right now mine says one and a half day(witch sounds fast comering) but i probably won't leave it running at night..
But hey it's Pulp so it's worth the waitwink

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Well I'm still seeding when I'm online so keep with it - remember it's a full DVD, 4.35GB, so it's quite a chunk to download. Worth it though, I hope you'll agree!

I've made a start on DVD2 today and I've already discovered something very promising - more details in the dueness of course...

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Would making it to a magiciso make it smaller?, came to think to the little Jarvis on songbook-film that was "only" 0.97 GB (a huge difference to 4,36 GB) maybe it can be useful for further releases...


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Not sure to be honest! If anyone wants to look into it, feel free.

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Just finished downloading this last night, great job Pip, it's a damned fine thing you've done - thanks!

I've got a fairly beefy net connection, I'll keep seeding all week.

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What program do people recommend for burning it to a blank DVD? I have ImgBurn, will that do the trick?


(Oh, and thanks again Pip!)

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Mike wrote:

What program do people recommend for burning it to a blank DVD? I have ImgBurn, will that do the trick?


(Oh, and thanks again Pip!)



For those who will only watch this on their computer, I was quite pleased to find out Media Player can now just open the file named VIDEO_TS.IFO, as though playing the DVD. ImgBurn should work fine though, I use that a lot.



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T-mobile are a bunch of fuckers. Yet again they have put restrictions on my browser, so that I can u/dl until midnight. Bastards.

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Sorry to hear that Sarah.

I've added this DVD to the Pulp Wiki resource - http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/PulpLiveAtTheEdenProject

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I've been away for ages (been in America for a bit) I come back and find all these excellent dvds!! I would absolutely love one- my computer isn't powerful enough to do any of that torrenting stuff, so will definitely pay postage costs/send you a blank dvd etc. Just let me know how!

And my "buy that 1991 gig from itv" plan can still be done if anyone is still interested...

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calumlynn wrote:

And my "buy that 1991 gig from itv" plan can still be done if anyone is still interested...

 Nice one Lynn. Thought youŽd forgotten all about it. IŽm still interested.



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sorry to bump this but could someone seed for me? I'm up to 75% and my tracker stopped.

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Thanks! biggrin

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hey Pip, you are a star! I was wondering if you could be ever so kind, do you think you could burn me the dvd/anything else you have? I would of course cover all costs!
I can't work out how to download/play all this stuff and I would DIE to watch this!
thanx!

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How do I burn it onto my blank DVD? I tried using Windows DVD maker but it won't let me because one of the files is saying it's 25 hours long!

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I've had a request to re-upload the Eden torrent, so out of interest does anyone else want me to?

Due to various reasons, 2010 has been a total write-off, but given Pulp are back together I think it's a good time to create some new DVDs!

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That sounds ace!

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Pip wrote:

I've had a request to re-upload the Eden torrent, so out of interest does anyone else want me to?

Due to various reasons, 2010 has been a total write-off, but given Pulp are back together I think it's a good time to create some new DVDs!



Yes please, I'll make Glastonbury available as well.



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Do you have Glastonbury on proper DVD then? I'd love to make a complete version, with Pink Glove...

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Just a note to say I'll start uploading the Eden again from tonight (midnight UK time). I'll post a link then.

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Those of you who missed out can now download the Eden Project DVD here:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2504141

Details here:

http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/PulpLiveAtTheEdenProject

Enjoy!

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Oh, and if anyone isn't a member of Demonoid, send me a PM and I'll give you an invitation code.

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Pip wrote:

Do you have Glastonbury on proper DVD then? I'd love to make a complete version, with Pink Glove...


Yep, proper DVD recorded off BBC.  I have three copies just in case and left it on a couple of hard discs - will be in touch

 



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oh this is a superb looking offer that all Pulppeople like myself would cherish on DVD

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For those who have messaged me for Demonoid invite codes, I will reply later today - their site is currently down for maintenance. Sorry for the delay but I was away for the weekend.

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I want one !

I was finally able to get around the problem that my dvd (region 1) does not play my Pulp Hits DVD so I hooked up my computer (region 0) to my TV with an HDMI cable & it works great!


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Does anyone still have the cover for this that they could upload?

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This is just brilliant.I'd love a copy too.Hope it's not too much trouble..

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I too would a copy of this! I would supply the disc and postage costs if someone could kindly burn me a copy. Thank you!

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