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10 years ago today! (well yesterday)


The most interesting set-list, bar the last ever gig, that they arguably ever played. Half a dozen new songs and a glorious rendition of ''Blue Girls''; the first time it had been played since its release 16 years before. And of course the debut public performance of ''Cuckoo'' too. The live recording of which many fans still have to rely-on to hear the song's splendour.
  
And all with a stripped-down sound, no fancy backing-singers or pre-programmed stuff.

Was anyone on here in attendance?  Must have been annoying those Venetian blinds masking the stage for the first half of the set!

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I'd have given my eye-teeth to have been there. As it was, I think I was just starting uni and therefore had no money or no means to get to Edinburgh. Will have to try and see if I can get my hands on some of the live bootlegs if they are still doing the rounds.

(I have a stack of bootleg VHS from the mid-90's at home, alas no VCR!)

BTW sounds odd but does anyone remember reading something about Mark Webber contracting chicken pox in 2000/1? It might be completely my imagination, but I'm sure I remember reading about it and being terribly worried.

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I love the way you love Webbo. smile

Have you not heard this gig? Cuckoo from it is in the Bar Italia account, possibly Blue Girls too.

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10 years?! Cripes! And I still haven't found the demo of that freaken song!

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Eamonn wrote:

I love the way you love Webbo. smile

Have you not heard this gig? Cuckoo from it is in the Bar Italia account, possibly Blue Girls too.




 He's such a nice bloke, it's hard not to.

Which account is it in?



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I was there - but was at the back, and at only 5'1" couldn't see a thing! I remember falling in love instantly with the new songs, particularly Quiet Revolution. I still can't get my head around why those songs were scrapped - they were so good! Unfortunately, can't remember much else :(

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I was there!

Jeepers, 10 years. That makes me feel old.

It was very exciting. As well as the fact that we knew it was a one-off opportunity to hear new songs, the first since TiH, the venue was so much smaller than anywhere you'd usually expect to see Pulp - something like 600 capacity, although as part of that was up on the balcony it felt much smaller. I'd met up with a couple of people off the Lipgloss mailing list. The place was absolutely rammed but we managed to get a spot dead-centre, not too far from the front.

The build-up seemed to go on forever. The blinds were down and some sort of quiet atmospheric music was playing. You could see Roger Middlecoate (distinctive-looking Pulp roadie with the long hair and specs, you must've spotted him in live videos and things) sorting out Mark's guitars and so on (despite everyone else had a minimal set-up, he still had 6 guitars or something). It wasn't quite clear when the intro music finished and Roald Dahl started - as I recall, you didn't see them actually coming onto the stage (or I didn't anyway).

To be horribly honest I found the concert itself a bit of a frustrating experience. The blinds were annoying not only in themselves, but also because being separated from the band like that was the last thing you expected from a Pulp concert (especially in such an intimate setting). The sound (as you can tell from the bootleg, which actually seems to have been taped from a better vantage point than I had) was very bassy and muddy as well, so you couldn't always hear what was going on - Duck Diving particulary suffered in that respect. I definitely remember liking most of the new songs and the odd snatches of lyric that came through, like the 'microwave' line in The Quiet Revolution. It was great to see and hear Pulp stripped of all that bombast that seemed to have grown around them through Different Class/Hardcore.

The second part of the concert, where they played older songs, was interesting too - Blue Girls was obviously a massive highlight as there hadn't even been a hint that that was coming. The Fear was really good too - again because it had been completely re-arranged and it wasn't quite possible to tell what it was at the start.

It was a fun night, a real one-off. You can read the review that I wrote for Acrylic Afternoons at the time (complete with photos) here.


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Yeah, I really enjoyed the surf rock infusion they gave to The Fear and TIH. And it was the first and best performance of Sunrise, before they mucked it up in the studio.

The promise of Flux had me obsessing over Pulp's every move for the next 2 years, until WLL finally came out and was a massive disappointment (to me at least). As I said in another thread recently, I'm still waiting for the Donovan-inspired psych-folk album Jarvis has been promising and failing to deliver since 1999.

-- Edited by Fuss Free on Thursday 3rd of September 2009 04:08:29 AM

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Yeah.... for me, there was a real sense of anticipation about the new stuff at the time. Unlike yourself I think We Love Life is fine, but there was a freshness and sense of momentum about the 1999 stuff that seemed to dissipate by the time they managed to get a record out. Inevitable I suppose. Just a shame they didn't manage to get something on record that captured that initial energy. An EP or a mini-album maybe.

Oh for the WLL Deluxe Edition!

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It will happen, won't it? There's so many unheard songs from that time to surely make it worthwhile, even a 'downloadable version only' would do. That, plus a Pulp Glastonbury DVD and Universal will have done a good job remembering the band.

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Will it? i mean if universal did a deluxe edition of WLL it would be so obvious that the real album just doesn't have..it, OK honestly, i haven't listen to the album that much but it's pretty clear that it's not Pulps best album, but hey maybe it would be interesting to hear the difference?
Scene Jarvis used the WWL sound in slush maybe he will re-discover the period...
And speaking of deluxe albums, i must say that the edition of TIH is the natural sequel (and is of corse the best one of the 3) and also makes the hole period even more interesting.

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It will happen, won't it? There's so many unheard songs from that time to surely make it worthwhile, even a 'downloadable version only' would do. That, plus a Pulp Glastonbury DVD and Universal will have done a good job remembering the band.



If the BBC released a dvd of the entire Eden concert, that would just blow my world.

 



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Perfect wrote:
And speaking of deluxe albums, i must say that the edition of TIH is the natural sequel (and is of corse the best one of the 3) and also makes the hole period even more interesting.

Hmmm....

It's the best in that it has the most new and 'intriguing' stuff on offer, but come on now, the second disk of His n Hers DE is like a greatest hits record from a parallel dimension. Seconds, HnH, Your Sisters Clothes, You're Not Blind, The Boss, The Babysitter, You're a Nightmare, Deep Fried, Streetlites...

Sure, we've heard most of those songs before, but they remain Pulp's finest works. If I had to choose between HnH DE and TIH DE, the curiousities on TIH DE don't hold a candle...

 



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Alright.. the HNH record are a very good collection of songs even though i think razzmatazz deserved to be on it (yes it's on intro and on that hits collection yada yada but its good!) after all they included a sound check version of space. And scene the mark goodier version of live on was included i think the your sister clothes version should been included as well (even though I've come to appreciate the original much more now) with that said the TIH DE is still my number one choice (even if Russell sadly was not longer in the band) the song are beautiful and clever but still there's this uncomfortable feeling of something gone wrong.
Oh and the DC DE wich have not been mentioned is sadly the weakest of the three. We can dance again, PTA, Don't lose it and Catcliffe shakedown (and perhaps Paula) is fine but i can live without a cover of an old folksong and some Nick Cave screaming.
And why pic a boring demo of Ansaphone when the proper one is 1000 times better.

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Sturdy wrote:

Yeah.... for me, there was a real sense of anticipation about the new stuff at the time. Unlike yourself I think We Love Life is fine, but there was a freshness and sense of momentum about the 1999 stuff that seemed to dissipate by the time they managed to get a record out. Inevitable I suppose. Just a shame they didn't manage to get something on record that captured that initial energy. An EP or a mini-album maybe.

Oh for the WLL Deluxe Edition!




About that, do we know exactly what was recorded (demo or else) over that period ? is there a studio version of the Quiet Revolution and Cuckoo in Island archives ?

WLL could have been a very spontaneous record, listening to those flux songs.



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PulpWiki to the rescue again...

http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/October1999Demo
http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/WessexDemos
http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/DepotDemos
http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/ChrisThomasHowieBLPsessions

There's a wealth of unreleased stuff as you can see. The Deluxe WLL could easily have been the best of the lot... oh well.

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Cheers, i'll check that out and will re-read your book i think :D

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