I voted for Leftovers but i was suprised that so many others did. I haven't really gotten into Slush - when he played it at Glasto I saw it as and opportunity to go for a wee.
Angela, I was bored with on first listen and the rest of the album I quite like.
Homewrecker has grown on me quite a bit since release. I really like Discosong too.
I feel like it's goona be one of those records that you can own for years, play from time to time and never get bored of it. That could be because you don't play it to death as when compared to most of Jarvis' other albums with or without Pulp it's not very exciting.
It's consisantly alright with the odd blip rather than consisantly great with the odd one that's not so great. In the past I've found that on release there's at least 2 tracks on the ablum you end up listening to 2 or 3 times a day at first, mainly because you can't get the damn tunes out of your head. On this one if I'm going to listen to it, I'll just play it from start to finish as nothing really leaps out as such.
These songs are for playing live in my opinion. They make more sense. Leftovers, I thought was awesome live.
Overall, I like the album. But if Jarvis was to release another solo album and it turned out the same as this one I'd be gutted!
Bring on a single release of 'Girls Like It Too'. If it coincides with the 5th anniversary of John Peel's passing this October it would be a nice sentimental touch too.
Am I the only one who likes F***ing Song? Gosh I feel like dirt. Hello all by the way... my first post...greetings :)
haha...hardly.
my opinion: "Fuckingsong: where to start. It sustains my unwavering crush, and I appreciated his sentiment as well *blush* Just as Jarvis is surprised by...err...the sap rising, I had to remind myself that this wasn't the cheeky 32 yr old Jarvis singing. He is sort of ageless to me. Not aged."
It's grit & sex. I get that same special feeling listening to Pencil Skirt or I Spy.
Upon my first listen to Fuckingsong I thought to myself, "Damn you, Jarvis! How dare you tell me what I can't have right off the top! That just makes me want it more." Cheeky buggar knows it too!
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The Legendary Girlfriend of Troy Truelane..... Well said... and it looks like we are on the same wavelength :) Jarvis really knows how to give you a little something and then take it back with the next line... Luv it!
PULPED: that is a shame and I have to say I'm surprised... you don't like any of the songs?
I don't have a fave song on this CD. This album is too blues and too rock for me. The previous album was far better. I'm disapointed.
I completely understand where you're coming from, I felt the same way a few tracks in. I don't want to say better, but Jarvis (s/t) is the more cohesive record.
I was shocked when I first listened to Further Complications. I never expected I'd hear a more rock side of Jarvis, (aside from Relaxed Muscle and beyond Fat Children) but he pulls it off. It's progression, and I think he wears it extremely well. Even though I thought Jarvis(s/t) was near flawless, I would have been bored to tears if he made Jarvis II. I wanted to hear more songs like Fat Children on the record because it sounded so good on him and it was almost out of place (pleasantly so) on Jarvis (s/t), but I don't think he's one for a redux - of anything.
Now I have Party Hard stuck in my head! "You have to decide, are you ready to rock?"
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'Jarvis' was pretty good. Black Magic is dull, & putting Running The World and Quantum Theory on the same track with a huge gap is incredibly irritating as it renders both (great) songs unsuitable for mp3 players & car compilations. I absolutely love Heavy Weather & Big Julie, wish he'd stop doing Black Magic live & replace it with Heavy Weather or even some of the covers from the previous tour. Oh, or Magic Works, that's fucking lovely.
Back on topic, I, like Steve, cannot understand the popularity of Discosong. It's like a bad demo of MLG without the melody, clever lyrics & cool bassline.
I'm also surprised at the lack of popularity for Pilchard. It's perfectly okay to have a piece of music, as opposed to a song, sometimes. Granted, you wouldn't pick it out to listen to by itself but in the right context, such as walking somewhere in the sunshine (or coming onstage at a gig!) it's great.
As one of the chief Angela-haters of yore, I have to admit it's grown on me a lot. Slush is poor, Hold Still is like a half-hearted, much less interesting version of Quantum Theory, Fuckingsong was great live but the recording doesn't really work.
The rest of the songs I like. It's not the revelation I thought it was initially, but to paraphrase the literature on the first LP, it works best 'when swallowed whole'.
Speaking of MLG i listen to it yesterday, and re-discovered what a wonderful little song it is, I should listen to it more often. Oh and also, you can edit the songs in audacity and make it to songs, it really makes life more simple and less frustrating
I still think FC only has a few tracks that are really good (Never said, slush and disco) and i think i can live with leftovers, starting to appreciate the title track a bit more the rest is quite boring, very often the horrible "music"(or noise) ruins the lyrics, sadly. But some of the acoustic versions of songs like Further complications is more likable without the meaningless screaming..
'Jarvis' was pretty good. Black Magic is dull, wish he'd stop doing Black Magic live & replace it with Heavy Weather or even some of the covers from the previous tour. Oh, or Magic Works, that's fucking lovely.
I love Black Magic! Maybe I'm just into Crimson and Clover, but I think it has something about it. That's the song, few and far between, that I sing along with. I have fond memories of doing so in an H&M with bewildered friends.
I agree 100% with mixing in Magic Works, fucking lovely indeed. When I heard it I thought it was the closest thing I'd ever get to a Jarvis Christmas song.
As for covers, I haven't heard many but I think A Cheat is great and I liked Purple Haze & Satellite of Love. Currently I'm partial to this little gem featuring one of my favourite expats:
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Black magic is definitely one of my very top favourite songs...and Magic Works.. I agree is beautiful.. it could be my top #1 favourite song PS. yep, I do edit a lot don't I?
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Black magic is definitely one of my very top favourite songs...and Magic Works.. I agree is beautiful.. it could be my top #1 favourite song PS. yep, I do edit a lot don't I?
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How can one sentence require 5 edits?
I'm a bit surprise that Angela has not had even one vote - it's not that bad!
Well, I edited 5 times because I wrote something and then changed my mind and then I wrote it again and forgot what song I was referring to and then decided it was probably off topic.. etc etc..and maybe a spelling error...that really irks me.. oops! :)
I like Angela... maybe because we got to listen to it so often before the album release, we became a little saturated with it? I can't honestly say I dislike any of the songs on FC. I really hate it when you buy a CD and there are tracks you just have to skip.
One song I have to avoid... and its a PULP song...is 'silence'. It frightens me...I feel like Jarvis just yelled at me and I just want to run away and cry.. hahaha!
Haha, silence is i think, the most common Pulp song that people hate! Not even Angela is..or is it? I mean Silence is, at least original... witch i don't think you can say about Angela.
Having had a little break from listening to Further Complications (that's what I do - listen obsessively when a new album comes out - give it a break, and then come back to it a few weeks later to re-assess), I can now claim that I like it a lot. There's not one track on there that I feel the need to skip (no, not even Angela) - and I think I may even prefer it to Jarvis.
OMG! I was really hoping that in some kind of perverted way I would like this track - you know, supporting the underdog, going against the odds.................. but NO.
The vote profile pretty much sums up the album, no? I would have expected Angela to do a little better though, not that I'd rate it up there with the best performing tracks. It's better than Pilchard, which never worked for me. The recording doesn't capture the live performance at all, except for Further Complications, which got my vote.
OMG! I was really hoping that in some kind of perverted way I would like this track - you know, supporting the underdog, going against the odds.................. but NO.
Ha! I actually thought it was going to a good deal worse than that.
That said, the milk I was drinking spurted painfully out my nostrils when Jarv first starts to wail.
It's okay: they were just finding their parameters. Just painfully thrashing around for their parameters. Silence is a document of their search for excellence. This is Hardcore probably cancels it out. It all balances. In the end.