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Why would they call it Pulp then? When Candida, Steve and Richard were in Jarivis' backing band it wasn't called Pulp.

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He's new band is called "Jarvis Cocker- The band", maybe something like that? Or not. They shouldn't call themselves Pulp, it would just be strange

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Why would they call it Pulp then? When Candida, Steve and Richard were in Jarivis' backing band it wasn't called Pulp.



Candida wasn't really 'in' the band though was she, she just guested for one song at a few concerts. And Hawley was never an official Pulp member.

I'd quite like to see a Pulp reunion with Russell on board, but it seems very unlikely. Jarvis has been fairly consistent over the past few years in not showing much interest in resurrecting the band and Russell, even if relations with the others are better than that recent Independent article suggests, prides himself on being an awkward sod at the best of times! I wouldn't lose any sleep over it not happening really - Pulp's heyday was a long time ago and it's almost unheard-of for reunited bands to be as good as they were first time round.

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The only really succesful comeback I can think of is The Verve's first comeback in 1997.

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What about Pixies? (ok they are not a "britpop" band but they are alternative)

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Don't know them.

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And Take That. They Rule The World again now, apparently.

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Make up your own mind which version to believe but my money is on this one!

http://www.adatez.com/8195/the-buzz/news/jarvis-cocker.htm

Jarvis Cocker won't reform Pulp.
The 'Common People' singer admits he has been offered large sums of money to reunite the group but refuses to contemplate joining his former bandmates on stage.

He told Q magazine: "We live in an age where repetition and nostalgia are lifestyle choices. I'm prone to it too, I go on YouTube and find things I haven't seen since I was a kid.


"But I'm a contrary sod so if someone wants me to reform a band I tend not to."

Despite his indifference, Jarvis admits he will be going to see Blur - who were one of the biggest bands of the 90s along with Pulp and Oasis - when they perform their comeback shows this summer.

He added: "I will go and see Blur at Hyde Park because I'm genuinely interested to see what they sound like."


There's also a video here where the question is put to him: http://itn.co.uk/videos/87bbb9d36da1962c144b773720292ee5.html



-- Edited by weed on Tuesday 16th of June 2009 07:06:48 PM

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Jarvis is going to judge the reaction of Blur's reforming at Glastonbury this year - it it would be viable for Pulp to reform - its also dependant on how much money is laid down on the table too..........

Source : The Sun Bizarre


Ok - just returned from seeing Blur at a local venue tonight - they announced it as their first 'proper' comeback gig.  So, to get in ahead of Jarv's opinion, I personally found the sound quality quite poor, the performance from Damon quite dull (he looked knackered after the first song), and the lack of any new material a bit of a cop out. But the crowd seemed to respond well to it all. 

My lack of enjoyment of the evening was probably partly due to having never been a big fan of Blur anyway, and also having the Jarvis performance still fresh in my mind from Tuesday - Damon was never, and still isn't, an engaging and entertaining performer as Jarvis.

 



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That's it, Anet, isn't it? Combine a ''best of'' Pulp set-list (with hopefully Jarvis' obscure side coming out prompting renditions of Rattlesnake, Love Is Blind, Little Girl and all the best lesser-known Pulp songs alongside the hits and stronger material from the Island albums) with Jarvis' natural prowess as an entertainer, and you've got the ingredients for how to put on a perfect live show of interesting pop music.

I'm a bit confused by all the ''OMG, Blur are back!!!'' hysteria that's greeted their reunion. They were playing live a little over four years ago, promoting the patchy Think Tank album. I know Coxon left before then, but, correct me if I'm wrong, the whole ''first gig as a four-piece in a decade'' thing is bollox, isn't it?

I do like Blur, but always thought they were much better as a singles band. Parklife is held-up as a great 90s album but there's a lot of rinky-dink filler on it that Pulp were accused of at the time. Put up Parklife and The Great Escape against His'n'Hers and Different Class and it's laughable that you can even say they're of a similar quality. Modern Life Is Rubbish has its moments, as does the self-titled album, but as their post-Britpop comedown record, it doesn't hold a candle to This Is Hardcore. I'm bound to say all this of course. But honestly, I think Blur's merits have been completely over-stated by the press. Perhaps it's Albarn's success with Gorillaz that has given them an even more elevated standing. But I remember in John Harris' well-written book on Britpop, The Last Party, (before Gorillaz's success), he held Albarn up as the best thing about alternative British pop music in the 90's. I don't really get it, to be honest.
And quit with ''The Kinks for a modern audience'' spiel. He's no Ray Davies!

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Blur is a singles band, period. I got all the albums from a mate of mine, but I wasn't too impressed.

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Perfect wrote:
He's new band is called "Jarvis Cocker- The band", maybe something like that? Or not. They shouldn't call themselves Pulp, it would just be strange

I think Jarvis will be playing Pulp songs live on the next solo tour, which will be the next best thing.  Morrissey & Ian Brown did similar after a couple of solo tours.  For a lot of people Pulp & Jarvis are synonymous.  More so than any of their contemporaries (i.e. Blur/Oasis/Suede).  Pulp never really had a wing man of any note like say Coxon or Butler.  A solo Gallagher/Anderson/Albarn is not the same as a solo Jarvis.

It is more like Paul Weller and the Jam.  OK, there were others in the band but rightly or wrongly only he gets all the credit nowadays. 



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I think the discussion was about whether Jarvis and his band could be the new- Pulp scene band members always had come and go. I don't really like that idea.
If the band play old pulp songs fine, but they are not the group Pulp, and they never will be.
And also if they play those lovely songs together maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

-- Edited by Perfect on Monday 22nd of June 2009 09:45:16 AM

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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon. 

 



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Same with Black Magic. When it was played at the end of the main set at Troxy, I really wanted to go mad to it as if it was the anthem he clearly would love it to be. But it's simply just too boring. The riff is quite infectious but by the time the second verse rolls round it's grown weary. And singing along to the words "Black Magic, yeah, yeah ,yeah" for the length of time it goes on for at the end just doesn't hold my interest.

And then there's Angela...(shakes head in despair)

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ArrGee wrote:
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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon.


Is that a bit of sarcasm there?  I actually love that song - honestly - it is one of the best.

 



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i can hardly remember how that song goes.. (sadly i can't say that about angela... :P )

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anet wrote:

ArrGee wrote:
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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon.


Is that a bit of sarcasm there?  I actually love that song - honestly - it is one of the best.

You like Angela? (Now that is sarcasm!)

Not really sarcasm.  It's just that once upon a time there was a poll on the worst Pulp song and Someone Like The Moon of all the material from Separations onwards seemed to get most votes.  I think Silence won hands down.

As I once said, Someone Like The Moon is not necessarily one of my favorite Pulp moments, but I think it's better than Angela.

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=93104&p=3&topicID=8283408

 



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That was a good read, that thread - shame I missed it. It's interesting to see what a diverse range of opinions there were (and how long some of you lot have been posting on here).

I don't mind Angela (live is better), but really, Someone Like the Moon is one of the rare songs that, if in that kind of mood, can bring a tear to my eye. It's that bit where the song suddenly starts to build up, and Jarvis sings 'but the light comes, and the day bleeds through the sky, and the sun, the sun makes it hard to get through.....'. It just gets to me.


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Well I saw Blur tonight and it was fucking amazing, Damon wasn't "dull" and didn't look tired (he jumped into the crowd three times) and the set was the perfect mix of hits and album tracks. Plus the whole band looked like they were absolutely loving it. As with Pulp, Blur never split up, everyone knew that Blur would get back together. Also, I fail to see how the lack of new material is a "cop out"- they only got back together in December of last year, they would have had to work pretty fast to come up with new material in 6 months, alongside relearning all of the old songs!

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Jumping into the crowd doesn't take that much energy or originality - not a patch on Jarvis' dancing!

And when I went to the first James reunion gigs, they were already trying out new material before the new album was released. It just comfirms that the band is trying to move forward, and not just cashing in on their past.

In Blur's defence, the sound quality was terrible at the venue I was at, and I'm not a big Blur fan at the best of times.

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