What a horrible suggestion - that Jarvis would think the success of Blurs' reformation should bear any influence on a possible Pulp reunion. No surprise that it came from The Sun.

Anyway - I'm going to see Blur next Sunday, so I'll let Jarvis know what I think of his former band's future prospects when I return!

-- Edited by anet on Friday 12th of June 2009 08:28:02 PM

If it ever happens it'll be when you least expect it. I don't think The Sun will be first to break the news (but then that's maybe what they want me to think!). I'll believe it when I see it.

Need a Pulp reunion so badly. But yeah, The Sun is the worst. They have sworn so many times that the Smiths were reuniting.

I dont beleive it would be bollocks though Anet - I think the "in thing" at the moment is bands reuniting - in my opinion, Pulp have not had their "swansong". Auto was their last gig, and the atmosphere was electric - Jarvis comments " we going for a bit now, we may meet again soon" or words to them effect..... I dont think it would ever be ruled out but I hope the motivation of any reunion would not be money......

Ian Broudie released an album under the Lightning Seeds title last month and it was brilliant - I never expected another Seeds album.......I am very optimistic and hopeful

I would love to see a Pulp reunion - but please, please, please not because Blur do alright financially out of one, so let's give it a go too.

Anything's possible right ? He's divorced and his views about his carreer has changed a lot since 2002. I suppose every other one of them bar Russell would be ok for a reunion.

Anyone knows what they are doing now ? Well cept for Steve obviously.

-- Edited by andy on Sunday 14th of June 2009 08:20:25 AM

What was the last album Russell produced? I would almost think that he would be the first to want to regroup. Money dries out very quickly, and I never hear about him doing anything that would make money.

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Obviously, people seems to ask him this all the time, so he could just be tired of saying no.

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The thing is he's never given a straight answer when asked. It's always ''Hmm...dunno...you never know but not for the forseeable.''


In answer to what the rest are doing now - as mentioned in the brief interview with him recently, Russell still has his antique glass business in Sheffield and is apparently writing a novel. Nick is responsible for his mum's pottery business (which seems to be doing pretty well judging from its impressive website). Mark continues to curate arty avant-garde exhibitions. And Candida...I don't know. She helped Jarvis out on keyboards a couple of times when the first solo came out suggesting she's at a loose end. Surely she's supporting herself in some way, I doubt the royalties from Pulp are enough to keep her going! 

Any reunion would have to be with Russell to make it special, I think. Live, at least. That bloody violin and his stage presence really would be something to behold again. Otherwise I fear it would turn into WLL-era shows. Solid, professional performances (very anti-Russell then) but a bit turgid at times and lacking that sparkle that made Pulp so unique up until he left. I suppose the fact that the set-lists would be a mixture of stuff from various eras - like the last show at Magna, rather than drawing heavily on one album, would help make-up for his absence. But this is all hypothetical.

 

If Pulp wanted to go down this route with Russell back onboard. To me, this would be a very big mistake at first It sort of comes across like....'We're Back!'..it smells like an 80's hits package tour. It's like what Richard Hawley was saying in an interview farly recently. There is a sadness that you cannot ever really go back to those days in the mid 90's. Though I do think at some point, it would be totally awesome for Pulp to come back. But not like the above. You can say well Graham Coxon is back in Blur and that works. I would as of yet agree with that.

With Russell and Pulp, I feel there is too much water under the bridge. You just cannot recreate the Different Class period. Though if Pulp started out again, with an new album e.t.c, with a few suprises along the way...the way they have always done things. Russell, being back on board at some point, would be brilliant, really brilliant and in the true spirit of the band, I feel. Though I doubt he would want to do it anyway!

Pulp never split up. I really hope they record again and start touring again. I just hope they don't do it in an cheesy 80's hit package way.

My belief is that Pulp will return one day, possibly with Russell, bring out a new album, and tour it, along with some of their old material. I would predict 2-3 years time. Remember where you heard it first!

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If Pulp wanted to go down this route with Russell back onboard. To me, this would be a very big mistake at first It sort of comes across like....'We're Back!'..it smells like an 80's hits package tour. It's like what Richard Hawley was saying in an interview farly recently. There is a sadness that you cannot ever really go back to those days in the mid 90's. Though I do think at some point, it would be totally awesome for Pulp to come back. But not like the above. You can say well Graham Coxon is back in Blur and that works. I would as of yet agree with that.

With Russell and Pulp, I feel there is too much water under the bridge. You just cannot recreate the Different Class period. Though if Pulp started out again, with an new album e.t.c, with a few suprises along the way...the way they have always done things. Russell, being back on board at some point, would be brilliant, really brilliant and in the true spirit of the band, I feel. Though I doubt he would want to do it anyway!

Pulp never split up. I really hope they record again and start touring again. I just hope they don't do it in an cheesy 80's hit package way.

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I take your point but Russell returning wouldn't have to equate to a ''Different Class Reunion Cash-In''. If that were to happen I imagine it would have been for something like the 50th anniversary of the Island labe, special gigs.

If it was left to Pulp themselves to set this up why not ask Russell? He was in the group 13 years, and they'd likely play lots of stuff from that period. I doubt he'd do it either but there's probably as much a chance of him being in any reunion as there is of Webbo doing it.

 

Maybe the return of Pulp will not be a reunion as such, but perhaps Jarvis, Steve, another ex member like Candida or Nick with new members filling the gaps, possibly some from his current backing band. After all, Pulp have always had an ever evolving line up, why change now?

He's new band is called "Jarvis Cocker- The band", maybe something like that? Or not. They shouldn't call themselves Pulp, it would just be strange

The only really succesful comeback I can think of is The Verve's first comeback in 1997.

Don't know them.

Make up your own mind which version to believe but my money is on this one!

http://www.adatez.com/8195/the-buzz/news/jarvis-cocker.htm

Jarvis Cocker won't reform Pulp.
The 'Common People' singer admits he has been offered large sums of money to reunite the group but refuses to contemplate joining his former bandmates on stage.

He told Q magazine: "We live in an age where repetition and nostalgia are lifestyle choices. I'm prone to it too, I go on YouTube and find things I haven't seen since I was a kid.


"But I'm a contrary sod so if someone wants me to reform a band I tend not to."

Despite his indifference, Jarvis admits he will be going to see Blur - who were one of the biggest bands of the 90s along with Pulp and Oasis - when they perform their comeback shows this summer.

He added: "I will go and see Blur at Hyde Park because I'm genuinely interested to see what they sound like."


There's also a video here where the question is put to him: http://itn.co.uk/videos/87bbb9d36da1962c144b773720292ee5.html



-- Edited by weed on Tuesday 16th of June 2009 07:06:48 PM

That's it, Anet, isn't it? Combine a ''best of'' Pulp set-list (with hopefully Jarvis' obscure side coming out prompting renditions of Rattlesnake, Love Is Blind, Little Girl and all the best lesser-known Pulp songs alongside the hits and stronger material from the Island albums) with Jarvis' natural prowess as an entertainer, and you've got the ingredients for how to put on a perfect live show of interesting pop music.

I'm a bit confused by all the ''OMG, Blur are back!!!'' hysteria that's greeted their reunion. They were playing live a little over four years ago, promoting the patchy Think Tank album. I know Coxon left before then, but, correct me if I'm wrong, the whole ''first gig as a four-piece in a decade'' thing is bollox, isn't it?

I do like Blur, but always thought they were much better as a singles band. Parklife is held-up as a great 90s album but there's a lot of rinky-dink filler on it that Pulp were accused of at the time. Put up Parklife and The Great Escape against His'n'Hers and Different Class and it's laughable that you can even say they're of a similar quality. Modern Life Is Rubbish has its moments, as does the self-titled album, but as their post-Britpop comedown record, it doesn't hold a candle to This Is Hardcore. I'm bound to say all this of course. But honestly, I think Blur's merits have been completely over-stated by the press. Perhaps it's Albarn's success with Gorillaz that has given them an even more elevated standing. But I remember in John Harris' well-written book on Britpop, The Last Party, (before Gorillaz's success), he held Albarn up as the best thing about alternative British pop music in the 90's. I don't really get it, to be honest.
And quit with ''The Kinks for a modern audience'' spiel. He's no Ray Davies!

-- Edited by Eamonn on Monday 22nd of June 2009 12:10:31 AM

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I think Jarvis will be playing Pulp songs live on the next solo tour, which will be the next best thing.  Morrissey & Ian Brown did similar after a couple of solo tours.  For a lot of people Pulp & Jarvis are synonymous.  More so than any of their contemporaries (i.e. Blur/Oasis/Suede).  Pulp never really had a wing man of any note like say Coxon or Butler.  A solo Gallagher/Anderson/Albarn is not the same as a solo Jarvis.

It is more like Paul Weller and the Jam.  OK, there were others in the band but rightly or wrongly only he gets all the credit nowadays. 

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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

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It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon. 

 

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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

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It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon.

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Is that a bit of sarcasm there?  I actually love that song - honestly - it is one of the best.

 

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.... maybe they can realize that songs like "Angela" never can stand up to "Something changed" or Babies" .

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It doesn't stand up to Someone Like The Moon.

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Is that a bit of sarcasm there?  I actually love that song - honestly - it is one of the best.

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You like Angela? (Now that is sarcasm!)

Not really sarcasm.  It's just that once upon a time there was a poll on the worst Pulp song and Someone Like The Moon of all the material from Separations onwards seemed to get most votes.  I think Silence won hands down.

As I once said, Someone Like The Moon is not necessarily one of my favorite Pulp moments, but I think it's better than Angela.

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=93104&p=3&topicID=8283408

 

Well I saw Blur tonight and it was fucking amazing, Damon wasn't "dull" and didn't look tired (he jumped into the crowd three times) and the set was the perfect mix of hits and album tracks. Plus the whole band looked like they were absolutely loving it. As with Pulp, Blur never split up, everyone knew that Blur would get back together. Also, I fail to see how the lack of new material is a "cop out"- they only got back together in December of last year, they would have had to work pretty fast to come up with new material in 6 months, alongside relearning all of the old songs!