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LeoVK wrote:

 

James wrote:

Oh, & I'm getting quite worried now as the post is shit 'round here: HAS ANYONE HAD THEIR TROXY TICKETS DELIVERED YET? Please let me know!




Nor me...so you aren't alone, just to reassure you!

 




Thanks, guess they just haven't sent 'em out yet! :)



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Pilchard
Caucasian Blues
Further Complications
From A to I
Big Julie
I Never Said I Was Deep
Heavy Weather
Something Changed
Tonite
Homewrecker!
Angela
Fuckingsong
Cunts
Babies
Slush
Black Magic
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Fat Children
Your're in My Eyes (Disco Song)


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No Pulp please. Just sounds like cover versions without the original band.

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Eamonn wrote:

No Pulp please. Just sounds like cover versions without the original band.



I agree, but I think he can do Pulp songs stripped down as he did at that John Lennon gig. Just him and another guy on acoustic guitar, maybe bring Steve out as well.

 



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I dunno...that Songbook programme which was the first time we saw him play Pulp on his own, though great to see also made me a bit uneasy. Probably due to his lack of practice but between straining for some of the high notes and mixing up lyrics, I just thought that Pulp is better left alone unless he comes back with the whole band.

The acoustic thing last week did look better, with a lead guitarist alongside him but I was still unconvinced. I know he didn't have the backing of a band but I would think it a bit disrespectful to the rest of Pulp if he got his new group to play one of their songs.Maybe if it's something obscure, an early Pulp song, like Fuss Free mentioned it would work. I just don't like seeing inferior versions of classic Pulp songs, which are what Jarvis' solo renditions have been in my opinion.

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I don't see why it should be an issue for Jarvis to sing Pulp songs now, if he's wants to do so. Morrissey regularly throws in Smith's songs into his live performances now, which are always good to hear. It seems a bit sad to think that if Pulp never come back together as a full band, then we will never again get to hear some of those great songs performed live.

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Hmm, Morrissey's recent rendition of This Charming Man in the style of Lust For Life was a bit of a worry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDfr9cFQmM

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I finally got around to watching YouTube clips of Jarvis' renditions of the three Pulp songs at that benefit concert, and I'd be very happy if he performed those songs in those arrangements on this upcoming tour.

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BTW, "Pilchard" reminds me a little of "Styloroc," a song which I think would, sans monologue, made a good opening song for Pulp, with Jarvis entering near the end.

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Sturdy wrote:

Hmm, Morrissey's recent rendition of This Charming Man in the style of Lust For Life was a bit of a worry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDfr9cFQmM



The sound on the J Ross show is never great,  and it's still Morrissey singing This Charming Man at the end of the day!  If a song gets changed a bit over time I don't think it matters too much - if the songwriter wants to do that I don't see why it's an issue for the song to evolve - it doesn't have to stay preserved in time and untouched.  Bring on the Pulp songs Jarvis, that's what I say!

 



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I think Jarvis & the band should cover some Pulp - & really rock it up!


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James wrote:

I think Jarvis & the band should cover some Pulp - & really rock it up!



Yeah! I like it when Jarvis rocks.  It kinda suits him when he's not being sensitive or intellectual.

 





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Jarvis should never play anything but the most obscure Pulp song live. I doubt they would anyway, I mean even in Pulp they hardly played any old tracks after Russel left, besides the ones they had to. Jarvis has always seemed to concentrate on the recent stuff rather than wallowing is nostalgia anyway.

Pulp were Pulp, they were before my time and I've accepted that. They could reform, they could play His'n'Hers in it's entirety, whatever, it's never going to be the same as it was in 1994 (and this goes for any era of Pulp). Pulp were completely defined by their various different eras anyway, the only great stretch on continuity was His'n'Hers to Different Class. I would only ever be happy about Pulp reforming if it was in order to record a new album.

Plus Morrisseys renditions of Smiths songs are NEVER any good, and it means that you get people going to his gigs for no other reason than to hear him play Smiths songs, which is sad.


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Plus Morrisseys renditions of Smiths songs are NEVER any good, and it means that you get people going to his gigs for no other reason than to hear him play Smiths songs, which is sad.


-- Edited by calumlynn on Tuesday 28th of April 2009 07:44:52 PM

 



Not entirely true - the first time I went to see Morrissey live, I had no idea that he still performed Smith's songs. I went to see Morrissey, but the first thing he did was How Soon is Now - and that was amazing to hear, probably one of the best moments of my life even, partly because to me it was so unexpected.   A bit like when Jarvis gave his lecture in Brighton, and sat down to do an acoustic version of Babies - a fantastic moment.  It's not sad that the songs don't sound exactly the same as the original versions - it would be worse to try to replicate them.

 



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