I was wondering what your dream setlist for the forthcoming tour would look like. This is mine:
Fat Children Caucasian Blues Pilchard Leftovers I Never Said I Was Deep Tonite Big Julie Homewrecker (or else from the new album) Slush Mary (Relaxed Muscle) Girls Like It Too Loss Adjuster (or else from the long list of 7min+ songs: Wickerman, Deep Fried etc.) ----------- Babies (the semi acoustic 2002 "4Scott" version ) Running the World You're in My Eyes (Discosong)
So, what's yours? Please try to be (at least a little bit) realistic. (We're all desperate to hear Cuckoo or After You but it's not going to happen...)
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Something from Relaxed Muscle would be nice, but I guess that isn't gonna happen. I don't know what my dream setlist will be. Jarvis is entertaining enough, doesn't matter which song he plays.
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I don't like those versions of Babies without the fun bouncy guitar riff, but I'd love the traditional version or even a rocked- up version. I'm bored of Fat Children, 'cos the drawn-out ending is too long. Quite like your set there tho'. Mary would be brilliant! (: I'd like to add Fuckingsong. Remembering he seems to like ending on a random cover these days, I would simply love to hear him do Empire State Human!!! Oh, & since I've started playing it live, Underwear. I might try & make a 'propper' list later tonite or tomorrow.
Of course it is! I'd love to hear Jarvis do Paranoid (Black Sabbath) again, even though it's completely out of the question he would do the same cover twice. It blew me away and was so unexpected. Also, in the unlikey event that he choses to do a random Pulp song then Little Girl With Blue Eyes please. And anything else he wants to, even Angela.
Of course it is! I'd love to hear Jarvis do Paranoid (Black Sabbath) again, even though it's completely out of the question he would do the same cover twice.
Actually, a few of those covers from the first solo tour showed up in multiple shows, "Paranoid" among them.
I wonder whether Jarvis will continue to play covers at the end of his set? I suppose he has done it up to now because he has not had quite enough of his own matieral to play. With another album's worth of songs that should no longer be a problem.
O.U She's a Lady Pencil Skirt Common People Mile End Have You Seen Her Lately? Separations Love Is Blind The Mark of the Devil They Suffocate at Night Blue Glow Your Sister's Clothes Acrylic Afternoons Someone like the Moon Street Lites Rattlesnake The Never Ending Story
What's the link kiddies?
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O.U She's a Lady Pencil Skirt Common People Mile End Have You Seen Her Lately? Separations Love Is Blind The Mark of the Devil They Suffocate at Night Blue Glow Your Sister's Clothes Acrylic Afternoons Someone like the Moon Street Lites Rattlesnake The Never Ending Story
It was just a case of self-censorship. I felt like my little rant was too personal. I didn't want to high-jack the thread. I also worry that you lot think I'm completely nuts.
As a reasonable person, I have to say, I think the record is quite good. And I am enjoying my slice of humble-pie.
For what it's worth, Fuss Free, I actually appreciated, and to a large degree agreed with, that post of yours.
Regardless of what each of us thinks about Jarvis' solo albums, I like to think that we can all agree that Pulp were special, that they did some things you can't imagine any other band pulling off. ("Street Lites" is an excellent example.) I mean, why else would we be on this board, anyway?
Pilchard Caucasian Blues Further Complications From A to I Big Julie I Never Said I Was Deep Heavy Weather Something Changed Tonite Homewrecker! Angela Fuckingsong Cunts Babies Slush Black Magic -------------------------------------- Fat Children Your're in My Eyes (Disco Song)
No Pulp please. Just sounds like cover versions without the original band.
I agree, but I think he can do Pulp songs stripped down as he did at that John Lennon gig. Just him and another guy on acoustic guitar, maybe bring Steve out as well.
I dunno...that Songbook programme which was the first time we saw him play Pulp on his own, though great to see also made me a bit uneasy. Probably due to his lack of practice but between straining for some of the high notes and mixing up lyrics, I just thought that Pulp is better left alone unless he comes back with the whole band.
The acoustic thing last week did look better, with a lead guitarist alongside him but I was still unconvinced. I know he didn't have the backing of a band but I would think it a bit disrespectful to the rest of Pulp if he got his new group to play one of their songs.Maybe if it's something obscure, an early Pulp song, like Fuss Free mentioned it would work. I just don't like seeing inferior versions of classic Pulp songs, which are what Jarvis' solo renditions have been in my opinion.
I don't see why it should be an issue for Jarvis to sing Pulp songs now, if he's wants to do so. Morrissey regularly throws in Smith's songs into his live performances now, which are always good to hear. It seems a bit sad to think that if Pulp never come back together as a full band, then we will never again get to hear some of those great songs performed live.
I finally got around to watching YouTube clips of Jarvis' renditions of the three Pulp songs at that benefit concert, and I'd be very happy if he performed those songs in those arrangements on this upcoming tour.
BTW, "Pilchard" reminds me a little of "Styloroc," a song which I think would, sans monologue, made a good opening song for Pulp, with Jarvis entering near the end.
Hmm, Morrissey's recent rendition of This Charming Man in the style of Lust For Life was a bit of a worry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDfr9cFQmM
The sound on the J Ross show is never great, and it's still Morrissey singing This Charming Man at the end of the day! If a song gets changed a bit over time I don't think it matters too much - if the songwriter wants to do that I don't see why it's an issue for the song to evolve - it doesn't have to stay preserved in time and untouched. Bring on the Pulp songs Jarvis, that's what I say!
Jarvis should never play anything but the most obscure Pulp song live. I doubt they would anyway, I mean even in Pulp they hardly played any old tracks after Russel left, besides the ones they had to. Jarvis has always seemed to concentrate on the recent stuff rather than wallowing is nostalgia anyway.
Pulp were Pulp, they were before my time and I've accepted that. They could reform, they could play His'n'Hers in it's entirety, whatever, it's never going to be the same as it was in 1994 (and this goes for any era of Pulp). Pulp were completely defined by their various different eras anyway, the only great stretch on continuity was His'n'Hers to Different Class. I would only ever be happy about Pulp reforming if it was in order to record a new album.
Plus Morrisseys renditions of Smiths songs are NEVER any good, and it means that you get people going to his gigs for no other reason than to hear him play Smiths songs, which is sad.
-- Edited by calumlynn on Tuesday 28th of April 2009 07:44:52 PM
Plus Morrisseys renditions of Smiths songs are NEVER any good, and it means that you get people going to his gigs for no other reason than to hear him play Smiths songs, which is sad.
-- Edited by calumlynn on Tuesday 28th of April 2009 07:44:52 PM
Not entirely true - the first time I went to see Morrissey live, I had no idea that he still performed Smith's songs. I went to see Morrissey, but the first thing he did was How Soon is Now - and that was amazing to hear, probably one of the best moments of my life even, partly because to me it was so unexpected. A bit like when Jarvis gave his lecture in Brighton, and sat down to do an acoustic version of Babies - a fantastic moment. It's not sad that the songs don't sound exactly the same as the original versions - it would be worse to try to replicate them.