Thats cool - you have found a gem big time - thanks for sharing that :)

That was a great track!  Thanks for uploading that.  My 8 year old son loved it and now wants to hear more Pulp.

These precious gems just need to get into the right hands so they can all get uploaded into baritalia2005.  I keep planning to make up extra Pulp albums rather than just leaving all these tracks scattered on a PC.

Hi Everyone

Well I hope I will be able to put something else on soon..

Thanks Mark, I will comb through pulpwiki and try get some clarity on the demo's....I'm not that clued up on pulp pre "his and hers"...and I have a feeling that some tracks were given names and then changed to be something that most people have heard...but as I have said before at the moment all I can go on is what's written on the disc or inlay....!!

Have a good weekend all

Trixy xx 

Bloody hell! Thanks Trixy, that is indeed very much unheard.

The song's actually called 'After You', another 2000 demo described by Nick Banks as an "absolute lost classic". With some justification, I'd say.

I'm not normally one to do the whole "Why didn't they put (insert name of unreleased song here) out as a single, it would've been a surefire hit", but in the case of this one, which languished in the vaultes while The Trees and Sunrise limped into the arse-end of the charts.... WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING?!

Its a great tune and I have to say - its quite a commercial number and would have been a far better choice than Trees/Sunrise. Lost classic? Its not there with Death Comes To Town, BUT....its certainly a rocker....

Sturdy hit the nail on the head - what the f'in hell were they thinking (or jarvis more so) about shelving that? Id have gotten rid of Birds to have that !!! Trixy, if you have any questions about the demos - Sturdy (bygones?) and myself are very up on dates and what not, so dont hesitate to get in touch with us. Thanks so much for these Trixy, you certainly have made alot of people smile

Sturdy - do we think this is actually After You, or Disco Too Disco? As there is a reference to that in the lyrics, and im sure that there was a demo called Disco Too Disco at this time?

A relisten and im 90 percent sure its After You...lol

-- Edited by scottfrazer at 22:48, 2008-04-18

i put it up as "After You" in the baritalia 2007 account. 

According to the demo page on the official site After You started off life as Disco Too Disco (and this is what it was known as during it's original demo - the same recording session where the My Mistake demo came from perhaps). It also says that another unheard demo, St Just, began as Disco Too Disco aswell which is a bit confusing.

Anyway...this song has been the holy grail for me since I read Nick Banks and Geoff Travis' ringing endorsements of it in Truth & Beauty and a Pulp People magazine. Rattlesnake, We Can Dance Again and now this all in demo form were all long-desired. Strange that with the click of a mouse (and a very kind heart) somebody can just unleash them onto the world. Thanks again Trixy.

The song is a lot different to what I expected - I was sure it was going to be a pretty, swooning ballad in the vein of Birds In Your Garden and Cuckoo. It's not only very different to those song but it's very different to anything Pulp ever released. Very modern, radio friendly guitars (at first I thought it was a Craig David pastiche or something!),so instantly catchy that it doesn't need a sing-a-long chorus. The lyrics are fantastic - both the actual words and how they fit into the rhythm of the song itself - "From Safe-way to Tes-co to the Se-ven E-lev-en". Could maybe have have been huge, would certainly have made We Love Life more loved.

Sturdy wrote:

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Bloody hell! Thanks Trixy, that is indeed very much unheard.

The song's actually called 'After You', another 2000 demo described by Nick Banks as an "absolute lost classic". With some justification, I'd say.

I'm not normally one to do the whole "Why didn't they put (insert name of unreleased song here) out as a single, it would've been a surefire hit", but in the case of this one, which languished in the vaultes while The Trees and Sunrise limped into the arse-end of the charts.... WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING?!

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I believe Island records became the ultimate downfall for Pulp. There was an interview a couple of years ago where Jarvis said that when the record company got bought out there was a change of management and the band had less control over their records. Island kep't banging on about 'Trees' and eventually settled for a double 'A' side with 'Sunrse'. Personally, I think it's a crime that 'Weeds', 'Mini Timperley' and 'Birds' weren't the singles from that album - but that's just my humble opinion.

I remember Jarvis also stating that he regrets 'Dirty World' not being on TIH.

As for 'After You' -it sounds great but perhaps (when you think back to the state of british music around 2000/2001) they thought it was a little too 'Craig David' to put out.

All these factors amount to songs being 'lost' or put aside for another day. Perhaps if it had been the other way round and it was 'Trees' that had just surfaced today we'd be grateful to hear that and wonder why it wasn't on the record.

Thank God for the internet! Long live Trixy! (I must buy you a drink one day!)

I'd like to add my "Wow!" and "Thank you!" to all the rest. After You is great, and (at the risk of re-igniting the David Bowie argument) it reminds me of Stay from Station To Station, the vocal phrasing and vaguely Latin rhythm in particular. Great to hear some POP rather than plodding indie-rock, too...

Come to think of it, the opening is quite reminiscint of The Secret Life Of Arabia from the "Heroes" album too.  Of course the connection in Bowie terms is Carlos Alomar.

-- Edited by The Idiot at 20:14, 2008-04-19

thanx again trixy, for that. Great gift you're doing us

Thank you so much. Those made my day!