Right. Try listening to the start of the TIH reissue on a good amp, quite loudly. There's what sounds a bit like traffic noise for a second or so, like the end of Bar Italia. To me it sounds as if the reissues were all haphazardly remastered in the same session, & they got the cut-off point between DC & TIH in ever-so-slightly the wrong place when mixing down. What does everyone else think?
I noticed that as well. I assumed it was maybe a little bit of ambient warm-up noise that the reissues picked up on. Since my original TIH is the U.S. version, I thought maybe it got snipped off of that, along with the 14-minute synth note at the end of "The Day After the Revolution."
It is, however, on the original CD if you skip back past the start of track 1, if you see what I mean. And the original vinyl too, I think.
I've a feeling there was an interview with Jarvis somewhere where he explained that it was meant to be like no time had passed between the end of Bar Italia and the start of The Fear, which I guess sort of fits in with the post-Britpop hangover type idea.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me! Can't find my original TIH, but I checked it on the TIH/Glastonbury double CD, & sure enough it happens...you have to go back to minus four seconds. Stranger than fiction!
...and I've just checked the TIH vinyl, and it happens at the start of that too! Never noticed that! Very well hidden.
Also, don't know if anyone has noticed, but at the end of Day After The Revolution on the TIH vinyl, that synth note, that plays for 15 minutes on the cd, continues onto the run-out groove and plays for as long as the needle is on the record...like the end of Sgt Pepper!
Although I really don't remember it being on the cassette, I could well be wrong. It's just the sort of thing you'd put down to 'tape noise' & not even register. Sadly, can't find my tape to check it - must've left it in someone's car or something. Just listened to TIH on the reissue CD, & it strikes me that the 15 minute synth note REALLY IS as annoying as I remember! I mean, it makes sense to do the run-out groove thing on the vinyl, but the CD? Why? If they wanted to fill the disc up that badly, why not put Dirty World on, or even the WHOLE of Bar Italia when you rewind track one? Other than that, TIH is probably my favourite album, but that ending really is daft. What were they thinking?
And hanging around to hear Jarvis saying "Bye bye" halfway through, really doesn't make it worthwhile. Has anyone else actually stuck around for the whole thing before...I did originally cos I was hoping there was something up their sleeve. And I'll never get that 15 mins back...never!
I always thought that sticking the end of 'bar italia' to the start of TIH was a bit wank! On the 1st press of CDs they forgot to make it so you have to skip back and is just there everytime you wanna listen to 'the fear' which really annoys me!
I happened to learn of jarvis' "bye bye" and the end of the record when i fell asleep to TIH in bed with headphones on. Needless to say it woke me up and scared the shit out of me!
I happened to learn of jarvis' "bye bye" and the end of the record when i fell asleep to TIH in bed with headphones on. Needless to say it woke me up and scared the shit out of me!
I've done that!! In a caravan at Santa Pod. In a narrow sleeping bag. Not the best place to jump, I can tell you!
I happened to learn of jarvis' "bye bye" and the end of the record when i fell asleep to TIH in bed with headphones on. Needless to say it woke me up and scared the shit out of me!
I've done that!! In a caravan at Santa Pod. In a narrow sleeping bag. Not the best place to jump, I can tell you!
I've had the same experience in bed. I guess that's the meaning of that 15 minute synth tone, to scare the shit out of you when you leave it on.
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Does anyone think that maybe the 15 minutes and the 'bye bye' was possibly the band actualyl saying 'bye bye'. Maybe they origanally intended it to be their last album at the time, especially given the troubles they had at the time.
I've also been scared by the 'bye bye' though so it wouldn't be too surprising if it was a bit of a prank :)
Barcroft wrote:Does anyone think that maybe the 15 minutes and the 'bye bye' was possibly the band actualyl saying 'bye bye'. Maybe they origanally intended it to be their last album at the time, especially given the troubles they had at the time.
I don't think it could be. Think about Flux: this was recorded in 1999 & had a good few new songs, some of which later appeared on either WLL or Peel sessions. (Plus there was the track Born To Cry in 1999 for the Notting Hill OST.) I don't think they even had a (decent) break until after they started demoing new material, let alone considered throwing in the towell.
On an almost-related note, Jarvis hasn't tried out any new material on his recent-ish tours, yet says he's resignd to being a musician now. So maybe Pulp are going to return? I read somewhere that Jarvis & Hawley actually considered calling the solo album a Pulp album, so it can't be far from his thoughts, despite his 'that old mother' attitude when questioned. Unless he's planning a covers album...
He never said they actually spilit up after We Love Life and that they were in hibernation. A return of Pulp would get a warm welcome from me. I love his solo record, but it would be great to hear those old songs again and to finally feel the live Pulp feeling.
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