If I have to believe the Pulp Wiki this song is out there on a Spanish compilation. Does anyone have it? Could he or she send it to the Yahoo account? Thanks
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I quite lick Grandfather's Nursery. Could have done with a little bit extra work! How long do u reckon for the We Love Life deluxe version?! There are loads of lost gems from that time.
Wickerman wrote: If I have to believe the Pulp Wiki this song is out there on a Spanish compilation. Does anyone have it? Could he or she send it to the Yahoo account? Thanks
It was originally available as a free MP3 download from Amazon.co.uk.
I quite like Grandfather's Nursery. Could have done with a little bit extra work! How long do u reckon for the We Love Life deluxe version?! There are loads of lost gems from that time.
I don't believe a We Love Life deluxe version will ever see the light of day. It would probably be the most interesting one, given that it could include the abandoned 1999 Demos http://www.acrylicafternoons.com/promoTZ.html which would have been a very different album. Add in My Body May Die and other oddities and you'd have a great extra disc.
Autumn 2009 probably wont see the release of the following:
We Love Life Deluxe Edition Disc 2:
1. Yesterday (B-Side)
2. Forever In My Dreams (B-Side)
3. Darren (Demo)
4. The Quiet Revolution (Demo)
5. Cuckoo (Demo)
5. Born To Cry (used for 'Notting Hill' Sound-Track)
6. My Body May Die (used for 'Randall & Hopkirk Deceased' TV series sound-track)
7. Bad Cover Version (Promo Version)
8. Duck Diving (Peel Session)
9. After You (Demo)
10. M'Lady (Demo)
11. Grandfather's Nursery (Demo)
12. The Performance of a Lifetime (Demo)
13. St Just (Demo)
14. Got To Have Love (Demo)
All-Time High only features 3/5 of Pulp so it's inclusion would be debatable. 'Roald Dahl' from Meltdown could also be bunged in there aswell though the tendency has been to steer away from live recordings on the three current re-issues. And was it ever known for sure if another song was recorded alongside 'Last Day Of The Miner's Strike' for the 'Hits' compilation?
Anyway, with all those unheard demos, We Love Life is potentially the best value of all the re-mastered deluxes for sure!
Eamonn wrote: And was it ever known for sure if another song was recorded alongside 'Last Day Of The Miner's Strike' for the 'Hits' compilation?
Anyway, with all those unheard demos, We Love Life is potentially the best value of all the re-mastered deluxes for sure!
I'm pretty sure another song was recorded with 'Last Day Of The Miner's Strike' . I don't know the title or anything, but I discussed it with Alex of Pulp People via email at the time. She couldn't tell me anything about the two new tracks Pulp were recording at the time. All hush hush, but I assume one was Miner's Strike and the other...... Who knows, the other track may have turned up on A Heavy Nite or Jarvis.
For Pulp fans, it would have been the most interesting deluxe edition if it had seen the light of day.
I beg to differ FF, you may not be a fan of We Love Life but I've no doubt there are a lot of Pulp devotees who would love to hear a deluxe version of the album. One good reason for this is that it seems the WLL era offcuts are, for some reason, of a generally higher standard than the ones for the previous albums. Whereas a lot of the 'new' songs from the HnH/DC/TiH reissues are fairly sketchy, not-quite-finished efforts (with, admittedly, quite a few gems scattered here and there), songs like Cuckoo, The Quiet Revolution and Grandfather's Nursery are a lot more 'complete'. Jarvis has said as much in interviews - that in the period leading up to WLL they spent a lot more time on working up material than on any other album, hence the 'rejects' being a lot more finished.
I think I said it before but I'll say it again - I think Pulp were on a major creative roll for a while in 1999, and that's only partly represented by the album they emerged with two years later.
-- Edited by Sturdy at 19:25, 2007-01-16
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DC rejects are pretty much well polished as well i thought. all the unreleased tracks are more than just demos to me, they fit with the album.
but anyway, i agree, a WLL deluxe edition would be great, as i think the actual album isnt that good and from the few outtakes i heard, they're better and better produced than the LP. I can actually feel "life" on grandfather's nursery. i think scott walker really ruined this album, and 6 years later, it's still the most difficult pulp album for me to listen.
DC rejects are pretty much well polished as well i thought. all the unreleased tracks are more than just demos to me, they fit with the album.
Meh. I'd say this was definitely true of We Can Dance Again, which they'd obviously been working on with a view to putting it out properly, but the rest... Don't Lose It sounds to me like it could have been fantastic if it had been finished, but in its existing form strikes me as a hurriedly laid-down idea for a verse and a chorus that they might have developed further but didn't. Catcliffe Shakedown and Paula, fun as they are, seem like jokey thrown-together knockabout efforts that were surely never serious contenders for Different Class.
but anyway, i agree, a WLL deluxe edition would be great, as i think the actual album isnt that good and from the few outtakes i heard, they're better and better produced than the LP. I can actually feel "life" on grandfather's nursery. i think scott walker really ruined this album, and 6 years later, it's still the most difficult pulp album for me to listen.
If there's any problem with We Love Life (which I personally think is a great record) I think it's more that the band and the songs themselves were starting to sound tired by the time it was recorded. The likes of Birds In Your Garden had already been recorded several times by the time they went in with Walker and just wasn't 'fresh' like it had been in '99. They tried!
Oh, I forgot to answer the question about the alleged second track from the Last Day Of the Miners Strike sessions. I don't think anything was ever finished - from memory, I think Nick told me that they'd "planned to do 2, but it ended up being 1. In typical style."
-- Edited by Sturdy at 21:22, 2007-01-16
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I agree 100 % with Sturdy, We Love Life is still an amazing album regardless of its quips - its not a perfect album by any means, and there are certain songs that I still skip to this day (Weeds, Weeds 2, I love Life) - We Love Life was way over produced - some people thought the likes of Sylvia on Hardcore was overproduced - unfortunately there are tracks which are even more over produced on WLL - Sunrise, I love Life, Bob Lind. Just because they are overproduced doesnt mean they are bad tracks - they could have been better, they could have been alot worse, I still get the feeling that Pulp wanted to make the album feel *alive* to go with the nature feel of the album, but the production just didnt live up to it.
BUT............ at the live gigs that I went to, every single song from We Love Life sounded spectacular live - the energy that went into each note was spot on, and its a shame the album didnt actually live up to its live perfomances.
Again - I agree with Sturdy that demos of Quiet Revolution, Grandfathers Nursery, Cuckoo sounding more like the finished article, Got To Have Love could have been something special if it paid off - the raw demo thats "exclusively" on youtube is just a raw instrumental of the song and was way from complete - what the lyrics overlay would have been like I really couldnt tell you. The We Love Life demos were very interesting, as they had a semi accoustic feel to them, Wickerman sounds very different from the released version - and different lyrics "and the flyover that takes cars to leeds..........." " rather that "cities". Cuckoo is the masterpiece of these demos though, by an absolute mile. For obvious reasons.
Sturdy wrote: If there's any problem with We Love Life (which I personally think is a great record) I think it's more that the band and the songs themselves were starting to sound tired by the time it was recorded.
-- Edited by Sturdy at 21:22, 2007-01-16
Yes, it sounds "tired" (but not in a bad way) and kind of "happy" and "grateful" - Pulp never sounded like that und that's what makes this record so disturbing. Then again, like every Pulp album it captured "the sound of an era". I love it for that.
Of course a WLL deluxe edition wouldn't sell a million billion copies, but I really can't see the point for Universal in NOT releasing all of the songs they have. What are they waiting for? A new generation of Pulp fans?
Reissues are the easiest way to make money because the product is already there and insane people like me don't care what they'd have to pay for it. I can still remember the evenings listening to "It's a Dirty World" or "After You" for the first time. Universal could at least make the songs available for download. Maybe we should start a petition for a 10th anniversary deluxe reissue?
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Oh! Grandfather's Nursery is one of my fav Pulp songs!
I love WLL. I mean, I love many songs out there such as: Weeds, Wickerman, Bad Cover Version, Birds in Your Garden, The Only Way is Down, and obviously Forever in My Dreams. I don't know how to express but... I think WLL showed a more mature Pulp. However I don't quite like the shows of that era, except for the brilliant Auto 2002. I think that's because Pulp often performed the worse songs--in my opinion--such as I Love Life and Trees. I don't remember hearing a live version of Wickerman. And Jarvis' vocal in the studio version of those WLL songs were simply perfect, but his voice in live concerts of this era implied some extent of exhaustion. Nonetheless, regarding songwriting, I love this era of Pulp--obviously considering those songs that were NOT in the album.
If WLL deluxe (featuring some of the songs mentioned above) had been also released at the day those 3 deluxe discs were, I'm not sure whether or not it would have become my most favourite one out of 4. But now surely it wasn't released, then wouldn't that make WLL deluxe the most ideal for now?
Hey next year is gonna have been 10 years since WLL was released. Why not a deluxe edition to celebrate a 10 yr anniversary?
-- Edited by garbage on Thursday 19th of August 2010 06:30:56 AM
Can I be really cheeky and as someone to send me Grandfathers Nursery? This is my very first post - my superego said introduce yourself first and get to know people, but my id really wants it and I'm such a big fan of all things Cocker that I'm afraid it won out!