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1 Hymn of the North : Grandiose concept track / instant classic / a TIH+WLL+JarvIs mutant song

2 My Sex : the most TIH (and Separation) era song with a Leonard Cohen touch (Waiting for a miracle), a slow disco companion to Ladies man ant the Professional, not melodic but very moody, great work that makes an album richer than just a bunch of hits.

3 Got to have love : Wonderful new rendition, richer, filled with L.O.V.E hope, that's crazy, the demo was O.K but this, this...O.M.G

4 Spike Island : would be a great second single, good melody and catchy but a bit lazy on the bridge

5 Background Noise : great B-side, good melody, great chorus but maybe too short and lazy structure 

6 Farmers Market : cute song, beautiful music

7 A Sunset : the new Roadkill

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(may change with studio version and/or new songs added)

 



-- Edited by Bookmark on Thursday 19th of September 2024 03:15:43 PM

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Sorry to disagree, but for me "Background Noise" is MUUUUCH more than a B-side. I absolutely LOVE IT.

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I write this having only seen them play the "standard issue" 16 song setlist. Of course, I have seen the YouTube videos of the new songs so I'm judging them from that.

1. Spike Island - an instant classic. Pretty much sums up everything that we have missed about new Pulp material in the past 23 years. I'd say that it could be improved on a little by extending the instrumental outro but if ever proof was needed that most Jarvis / Jarv Is material was never going to match up to Pulp material, then this is it.

2. Got to Have Love - like I said on the other thread, could have been a huge hit in 2001. I always wondered what the vocal version would sound like and it's a lot better than I expected

3. Hymn of the North - whilst I think that the live performances from last year were a little wobbly, there's clearly a great song underneath it all. With the right studio treatment i.e. plenty of strings and pianos, it could be the next "big" song from an album (see "I Spy", "This is Hardcore", "Wickerman" etc).

4. My Sex - immediately gains extra points for sounding a bit like "The Professional". It sounds unfinished but certainly has potential.

5. A Sunset - faster and catchier than "Roadkill" but very "We Love Life" all the same. As above, with more elements added in the studio, it could be a classic. It doesn't strike me as a single but more something that would work well in the company of other songs. I said that about "Roadkill", "The Trees" and "Bob Lind" at the time.

6. Background Noise - pure "Intro" / "His 'n' Hers". Perhaps it could be a 5th installment in the "Susan" story; Susan and her husband are now in their 60s, having been married for over 30 years and following years of affairs and arguments, they finally accept that what was once an exciting thing has now faded into the background. Musically, I think it is (just about) strong enough to fit in on an album and with a bit more work, could be a follow-up single.



-- Edited by Ian on Monday 16th of September 2024 05:42:52 PM

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1. Background Noise
2. Spike Island
3. Hymn Of The North
4. A Sunset

Background Noise just has that hook and vibe that I can't get out my head.
Spike Island is so much more lively but isn't as much as an earworm.
Hymn Of The North is a solid late album slow burner.
A Sunset didn't really resonate with me but a recorded version might just.

I'm just glad we're living in a time where we're getting new Pulp.

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1. Got to Have Love
1.2. Hymn Of The North
2. Background Noise
3. A Sunset
4. Spike Island
5. My Sex



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This is my current ranking

1. Spike Island
2. Got To Have Love
3. Background Noise
4. My Sex
5. A Sunset
6. Hymn Of The North

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Mine's very similar to that actually.

1. Spike Island
2. Got To Have Love
3. Background Noise
4. Hymn Of The North
5. My Sex
6. A Sunset

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just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

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My Sex song seems to be in very early stage as he was reading the lyrics while singing it

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andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

 

No recording has been done. Jarvis prefers to road-test material first in front of audiences. We just have to cross our fingers that they don't faff around in the studio for two years like with WLL and Hardcore...



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Eamonn wrote:
andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

 

No recording has been done. Jarvis prefers to road-test material first in front of audiences. We just have to cross our fingers that they don't faff around in the studio for two years like with WLL and Hardcore...

 

no Pulp. Its really not that hard, go into the studio, get a good producer and do it. How long is it gonna take, another 10 years;  



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I want a triple A album so I can wait

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I wonder who they are going to get to produce it? Im also assuming that it will be on the rough trade label?

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andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

 With 'Farmers' Market' - setlisted but not played - that's 7 songs. Only need 3-5 more now.



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I really hope they hold some back from playing live til after any album emerges.

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I really hope they hold some back from playing live til after any album emerges.

 Leave some space in the setlists for more unearthed goodies! Still half of His 'N' Hers and nearly all of This Is Hardcore going unplayed, plus most of We Love Life and Intro. To say nothing of the earlier albums!

O.U. was unexpected so it's intriguing to think about what else might appear! (Although probably not My Legendary Girlfriend, even though they've rehearsed it. Surely Mark would've opted for that one on his birthday?)



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Eamonn wrote:
andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

 

No recording has been done. Jarvis prefers to road-test material first in front of audiences. We just have to cross our fingers that they don't faff around in the studio for two years like with WLL and Hardcore...

 

Was thinking about that. What if they... changed ? Its really weird to "test" so many songs. 3, 4 maybe... but so far we got what, almost an album worth of testing. Its kinda weird. And 9 out of 10 sound pretty finished to me. 

And surely they wouldn't say the album is recorded if it was.  

Just hoping here. Or dreaming. 



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If I have to select the first one in my mind, I would say "Spike Island." Because they played this song on the second night in Toronto and I WAS there!! Also, I can't get rid of the music while working. Hehe.

"A Sunset" for me more like Richard's song, ya, because he wrote the music. But I still like the song. Richard's one of my favourite singer-songwriters, and that's great Jarvis and Richard collaborated on this song.

At last, I created a new song playlist on YouTube, if anyone want to listen them, please enjoy!

www.youtube.com/playlist



-- Edited by lucyduck on Tuesday 24th of September 2024 04:25:07 AM

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Seven songs is as much as we got on Beyond the Pale - so Pulp have already written (or resurrected) enough songs to match a JARV IS album at this point.

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True but most of the songs on that record are over 5 minutes, it's a 40 minute album which is a typical LP running time (ie that would be 10 songs for another artist).

Mercifully, most of these Pulp efforts seem to hover between 3 and 4 mins. I'd like to hear a handful of new Pulp songs for the first time on record and not via amateur live footage so hopefully they're keeping their powder not totally...damp.

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andy wrote:

Eamonn wrote:
andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

 

No recording has been done. Jarvis prefers to road-test material first in front of audiences. We just have to cross our fingers that they don't faff around in the studio for two years like with WLL and Hardcore...

 

Was thinking about that. What if they... changed ? Its really weird to "test" so many songs. 3, 4 maybe... but so far we got what, almost an album worth of testing. Its kinda weird. And 9 out of 10 sound pretty finished to me. 

And surely they wouldn't say the album is recorded if it was.  

Just hoping here. Or dreaming. 




They tested out 9 new songs in a similar timeframe in 1999-2000 but only 5 of these made the final album. In 2001, I think I had heard at least 7 of the 11 songs on "We Love Life" before it was released.

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lucyduck wrote:

If I have to select the first one in my mind, I would say "Spike Island." Because they played this song on the second night in Toronto and I WAS there!! Also, I can't get rid of the music while working. Hehe.

"A Sunset" for me more like Richard's song, ya, because he wrote the music. But I still like the song. Richard's one of my favourite singer-songwriters, and that's great Jarvis and Richard collaborated on this song.

At least, I created a new song playlist on YouTube, if anyone want to listen them, please enjoy!

www.youtube.com/playlist

 Cool- ill give the playlist a go this weekend 



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True but most of the songs on that record are over 5 minutes, it's a 40 minute album which is a typical LP running time (ie that would be 10 songs for another artist).

Mercifully, most of these Pulp efforts seem to hover between 3 and 4 mins. I'd like to hear a handful of new Pulp songs for the first time on record and not via amateur live footage so hopefully they're keeping their powder not totally...damp.

 

I agree I would want to discover new songs properly recorded first and usually i dont listen to new songs from concerts. But its been too long, Pulp has been back almost two years and the technology is way better now, the sound on these recordings are great. It wasn't like that in the early 00s biggrin



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Ian wrote:
andy wrote:

 

Eamonn wrote:
andy wrote:

just came to me that we have half an album here.

I mean, if they debuted that many songs, it means its more or less recorded.

 

No recording has been done. Jarvis prefers to road-test material first in front of audiences. We just have to cross our fingers that they don't faff around in the studio for two years like with WLL and Hardcore...

 

Was thinking about that. What if they... changed ? Its really weird to "test" so many songs. 3, 4 maybe... but so far we got what, almost an album worth of testing. Its kinda weird. And 9 out of 10 sound pretty finished to me. 

And surely they wouldn't say the album is recorded if it was.  

Just hoping here. Or dreaming. 


 



They tested out 9 new songs in a similar timeframe in 1999-2000 but only 5 of these made the final album. In 2001, I think I had heard at least 7 of the 11 songs on "We Love Life" before it was released.

-- Edited by Ian on Thursday 19th of September 2024 06:33:37 PM

 

 

Really ? I dont remember that time and back then it was harder to find those live recordings, though i do remember hearing the demos sometimes in the mid 00s.  

Anyway, i have hopes, it would be a good time in the late fall because next year, Oasis is gonna come back and there wont be much space



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I just mean that if we hear all the songs live before an album is released, it's not as exciting listening to the album as there's less to explore.

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