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Pulp reportedly back in the studio after Jarvis Cocker spotted in Walthamstow :

https://www.nme.com/news/music/pulp-reportedly-back-in-the-studio-after-jarvis-cocker-spotted-in-walthamstow-3783688

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Huge if true

Back but not for a complete album I think, these things take time maybe two or three songs before they fly to La La Land.

 

 



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Maybe new record, maybe they're recording 'A Sunset', jarvis said it would be officially released at some point. We'd also love background noise to be recorded too!

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Confirmed by Studio Orbb on a comment on an instagram post from @stellacreasy- also they reposted the original photo on their instagram story. Im pumped up!

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Oh my goodness!

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Sounds good to me. I don't think that an album is completely out of the question. They have performed 3 great "new" songs in the past year and have had ample time to write more.

"A Sunset" reminds me of "Bob Lind" but without all the strange jangly stuff going on. As a full band effort, with some strings added in, it could be a classic. "Background Noise" is pure "Intro"/"His n Hers" and "Hymn of the North" sounds like a great final song from an album.

I know that "Cuckoo" and "After You" have been mentioned as possible candidates for a new album. I think that they are done with "After You" but there's every possibility that it could be re-recorded and "Cuckoo" proves that at least one of the many demos from 1999-2001 is still on Jarvis' radar.

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Oooooh crickey

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Well - Jarvis absolutely woke the internet yesterday with his revelation that he was "Back in the studio".

Was this with the rest of the band? Who knows? What I do know is that there indeed was other members of Pulp within the vacinity. Obviously the studio itself confirmed that Jarvis was indeed "there". Now if we have a look back to 2011 when they did their previous reunion tour - they hired out a studio for rehersals of which we saw video footage on Pulps website, along with later on some photos appearing of the decor and style of the place. Fast forward to 2024, and there is a studio thats in use - however, there is one big twist. Why would Pulp need a studio for rehearsals whilst they are already on tour? Makes no sense?

The excellent Elysian Quartet have posted photos on their Instagram within the studio of themselves - no sign of any official Pulp members though - just Emma. Looking further into their Instagram, there is an interesting photo from within Church Studios - " Back in a studio today recording some more secret tracks " along with various people being tagged within the post, along with a certain Anne Dudley (who worked on Different Class and Hardcore)...... This was posted 8 weeks ago.

We have heard in recent memory a few new songs. A Sunset, Background Noise, Cuckoo (just Jarvis on that Bird album release thingy) and After You during the previous tour. These songs, along with demos which got axed during the We Love Life sessions, and any potential NEW SONGS - could more than easily have been recorded and going through the finishing touches as we speak.

Pulp members have always been known to tease, or not be fully truthful when asked questions about the future - however with everything that has happened recently..... your try to NOT CONVINCE ME that there is a new album on the way......

Just imagine...... Pulp - Swansong - 23 years in the making...............the final voyage. The album being a tribute to Steve Mackey. A very fitting end to Pulp's recording career.

This is just what I can picture happening. I dont have any information thats not in public domain, however - I think it is more likely than ever that Pulp are in the process of making an album.

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Weirdly, I thought the Insta photo of Emma (and Richard? Is that his name - Elysian's leader) in a studio was a separate thing so when Jarvis was quoted as "we" being back in the studio, it ruled out it being a Jarv Is... thing and more likely Pulp. Not to say that Emma won't be involved.

Anyway, fingers are very much-crossed. I wonder can we get anything out of Mark if he does book signings in October.

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Aw, I really hope they do. I would love to hear some of those WLL songs and Hymn of the North and Background Noise on an album. Please let it be so!



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I missed that info !

Looking back at the touring calendar. There was nothing between december 2023 and may of the year, and then studio confirmed in august.

Wild guess here: main recording done in the winter, and finishing touches in august (vocals ?).

I'm excited, but of course, it could totally be nothing;

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Just a thought - Beyond the Pale was partly made up of live recordings, tarted up in the studio later. Produced, of course, by Jason Buckle. Maybe we've seen part of the new Pulp album being recorded already....

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Sturdy wrote:

Just a thought - Beyond the Pale was partly made up of live recordings, tarted up in the studio later. Produced, of course, by Jason Buckle. Maybe we've seen part of the new Pulp album being recorded already....


 

Could be, but i hope not. Jarv Is record lack depth on some instruments, as it is often the case with live recordings. I'd rather them playing live in a studio where you can nail the perfect sound. 



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Pulp, come on nowwww! Alriiiight! Its good! Its gooooood!!

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hoping for this to come to fruition <3 and also high key hoping jack antonoff won't be involved (just listened to recent mark webber interview posted in another thread say he was a fan and wanted him to produce stuff for them "if they ever reunited in studio" which is bizarre to imagine lmfao)



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Here is another hope since they dug old songs like Got to have love and Farmer's Market or after You, maybe have a go at We Can Dance again.

Would mind a new album and en EP of the oldies properly recorded. 



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Hope not...that time has passed. New songs pls. And just release all the old demos we haven't heard.

Farmers Market is new, isn't it?

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Eamonn wrote:

Hope not...that time has passed. New songs pls. And just release all the old demos we haven't heard.

Farmers Market is new, isn't it?


 

Well we could have a new album and a companion EP with

 

Got to Have Love

After you

Cuckoo

The Quiet Revolution

We Can Dance Again

 

I wouldn't mind that ! I'm saying new recording just coz it looks like they got back to their "old" Pulp sound while playing a bunch of them. 

 

on Farmers Market, this youtube : "We've been through the archives and we'll play a song that's never been played ever ever" he says. But then he mentions new songs... the sentence does not make much sense since he stops but looks like its an oldie... 



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Why are people so into them revisiting old unreleased songs rather than doing something new

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I think that when Jarvis talked about "the archives", he was referring to the rest of the set. Also, Jarvis said that the song was about his wife who he met in 2009, so it is highly unlikely that it is an older song.

As far as I'm concerned, the new songs originated as follows:

Hymn of the North - originally written and recorded by Jarvis for a play in 2019

A Sunset - originally written and performed by Jarvis and Richard Hawley in 2022

Got to Have Love - Pulp demo from 1999/2000

Background Noise / Spike Island / My Sex / Farmers Market - new Pulp songs

Granted, the new Pulp songs could be re-hashed and re-titled demos that we haven't heard before. We won't know unless the originals are released or the band provide further information.

The ideal outcome would be an album comprising brand new Pulp material but if they insist on resurrecting some old songs for it, then fair enough. I mean, "Got to Have Love" in particular is decent enough. Hopefully Island will want to cash in by releasing a deluxe version of "We Love Life". Best of both worlds.

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Why are people so into them revisiting old unreleased songs rather than doing something new


 

Obviously not, at least me. But those songs deserved a better treatment than just throaway demos. They did a big mistake not recording them properly in the late 90s. Its always a crime when an artist does not finish something potentially great.

I suppose Pulp kinda agrees since they went back to 2 of those already and Jarvis also recorded Cuckoo on his own. They feel that bitter taste in their mouth too. 



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Jarvis did say "But please believe us: this is only the beginning." on Instagram. Now that could just refer to shows next year, but it that feels like a more significant tone than that.

"Last one in LA.

Last one in the USA.

Last one of 2024.

But please believe us: this is only the beginning.

Many thanks to everyone who has been to see us over the last two weeks. It has been an amazing experience.

Tonight was like Apocalypse Now: the Musical.

Lets do it again sometime.

(Photos courtesy of @doraifranco & @disintegration )

#hollywoodforever

#pulpforever

#thisisthis"

https://www.instagram.com/p/DANlw2iRTxY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==



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Does it really matter if songs are old? We have only heard unfinished demos of certain songs.... so its not really relevant whether they are old or new.



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I think it would be a bit weird and concerning if they had to rely on mainly on old pieces and weren't capable of coming up with much from scratch

 

Fair enough, revisit some things, but they should move on... otherwise it all gets a bit MBV

 

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Does it really matter if songs are old? We have only heard unfinished demos of certain songs.... so its not really relevant whether they are old or new.


 

I agree. Many artists put old song on their records, they just dont mention it. Some dont fit, some you dont find the right hook, or the right production, and one day it clicks.

 

I'd say with the sound they have live this year, some old songs fit perfectly. 



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If Pulp were on a 50 50 basis of new songs and old, I'd take that all day long. 

Something Changed was an old song? 

I understand what you mean about Pulp writing and living for today - we know they are still capable - more so with the guys from Jarvis Is performing too. 

As long as they don't go down the Shed Seven route and totally rerecord their songs.....that said the Sheds released a brand new album alongside Liquid Gold. What will be will be, and I know I'll be throwing my money their way lol



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I'm pretty much on the fence with it. The brand new songs are great and even more would be welcome but in terms of quality, the resurrected old songs match up. That said, an album containing solely new material would be better.

I agree with the previous comments that the 2000 demo of "After You" is better than the 2013 "final" version but we weren't supposed to have heard the demo. If the 2013 version was the only version available, I think that it would have been better received.

There have also been comments in the past from Jarvis where he talked about wanting to do certain songs justice. I remember him saying this about the two he wrote for Nancy Sinatra. They have certainly been trawling the archives in recent years (see also "Cuckoo") so if they finally want to nail some old demos, then fair play. This is better than remixes or cover versions by anyone's standards.

An interesting point to note is that they recorded 6 songs at the Wessex studio in January 2000 and whilst none of them made the album or b-sides, 2 have been revisited. "Grandfathers Nursery" saw the light of day at the time as a limited download but there are another 3 songs (M'Lady, St. Just and The Performance of a Lifetime) that they must have listened to recently.

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Scottbloodyfrazer wrote:

If Pulp were on a 50 50 basis of new songs and old, I'd take that all day long. 

Something Changed was an old song? 

I understand what you mean about Pulp writing and living for today - we know they are still capable - more so with the guys from Jarvis Is performing too. 

As long as they don't go down the Shed Seven route and totally rerecord their songs.....that said the Sheds released a brand new album alongside Liquid Gold. What will be will be, and I know I'll be throwing my money their way lol





I honestly cannot see Pulp re-recording any of their hits, which is what Shed Seven have done. A brand new album followed by re-recorded versions of obscure material would be fantastic though.

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My other concern is that they found the process of making new albums like pulling teeth for the last two albums, so they were wary about going through that following the 2011 reunion, and perhaps to an extent now. I'm not sure the drive from all the core members is still there. I'm wondering how much it is due to the wheels coming off their old group writing process. I would genuinely love to hear a true 2025 Pulp album written close to entirely from scratch, perhaps the only way they can rise to the challenge of a new album is to take things from the shelf in addition to newer Jarvis songs, some originally not intended for the band at all.

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Yeah whatever they do, re-recording old hits is the idea of failing /dying bands who needs to rely on past success.

But its not gonna happen.

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What gives me hope is that Jarvis, at least, seems to have found it a lot easier to make albums in recent years - cf the unprecedented rapid streak of Beyond the Pale > Tip-Top > This Is Going to Hurt. OK, that's only one 'proper' album, but when else in his career has he put out that much material over a period of less than 2 years? Maybe that's partly because there's less pressure associated with a Jarvis project than there is with a Pulp album. But hopefully whatever's change in his approach might carry over to Pulp now.

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I think they are heading towards an album as it is 'now or never' time, but that doesn't mean they are collectively creatively firing on as many creative cylinders as in the early 90s.



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It doesn't matter, I'd rather they tried than not. The new songs performed live sound potentially good enough to polish and put out.

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Got to Have Love
Spike Island
Background Noise
Farmer's Market
My Sex
Quiet Revolution
Cuckoo Song
A Sunset
After you
Hymn of the North

It's already better than We Love Life.

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I agree with Sturdy. Jarvis seems to have found a different recording technique that he feels comfortable with. Therefore, it's a lot easier to make albums. Of course, this needs to be balanced with input from the other band members.

I think that "After You" has reached the end of it's lifecycle. The 2013 version wouldn't sit well alongside some of the other new songs and I don't think that they would re-record something that has already been released.

In defence of Shed Seven, they released a successful album earlier in the year and the re-recordings are pretty impressive. The band have said the following: "After the success of A Matter of Time, we found out that one of our former labels was planning yet another 'best of' releasea blatant cash grab for our 30th anniversary. Wed been discussing making an orchestral album for a while, and it felt like the perfect moment to take control. This not only thwarted the old label's plans but also gave us a chance to create something truly meaningful". Therefore, I think that it is more of a creative endeavour rather than cashing in on previous hits. To be fair, it is pretty much the same as Jarvis releasing that orchestral version of "Running the World".

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Well there is two versions of Little soul, there is glory days and cocaine socialism

Jarvis has also recorded those two songs again for his first solo album

I noticed they played after you the « old » way during the recent tours. I see it as a hint it could be re-recorded

They seem to really like it so why not as an album track

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The alternative version of "A Little Soul" is a the Johnny Dollar remix. I think that "Cocaine Socialism" was recorded in mid-1997 and they wanted to release it as a single straight away, they then concluded that it would be a bad idea and rewrote it as "Glory Days" in late 1997 / early 1998. I have always recognised them as two different songs.

There is of course the single version of "Countdown" which is an obvious re-recording rather than a remix but it was common practice to release a different version of a song as a single.

The live versions of "After You" don't particularly do much for me but you are correct that it sounds closer to the 2000 version. The structure also seems to have changed a bit; some extra "After You"s between the second and third verse and a shorter finale. In fairness, something similar to the 2000 version would sit well alongside "Got to Have Love".

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So... Nick, Candida, Mark and Jarvis are all in London at the moment.

Someone who has just started at my work introduced themselves today with a short post about his dog, Jarvis, and mentioned "we bumped into Jarvis Cocker last week (hes recording an album around the corner from my house)".

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Er, can you welcome this newbie to the fold over a couple of post-work drinks (you're not all Zoomed and Team's are you...?) and find out more?

Mark has been very careful about choosing his words in his book promo, kind of suggesting that they haven't started recording a new album but not outright said that they haven't demo'd material.

Jarvis must smile at the thought that for once, it's not him that's being pestered about Pulp future questions.

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It might not be their last. The likes of Brett Anderson and James Dean Bradfield are only a couple of years younger than Jarvis and are showing no signs of slowing down. If anything, we know that Pulp have enough source material for at least two albums. I suppose they could record them both at the same time and release them a year or so apart (I think that the Manics actually did this once).

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Can't see Pulp doing that. One last hurrah is as much as we can hope for.

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2 more albums, one in 2025 hopefully, another one in 2035, at the earliest.

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Guys, you are so optimistic. How do you do that? Where does your blind faith come from?
Ian, I understand you but Pulp is not Suede or MSP, they are working at their own pace. They always did and they always will.
I see a new Pulp album coming and a Jarv Is one filled with rejected Pulp songs. That's the best I could hope for.

 



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