Looking at the line-ups and times, I fear I'll be legging it across from the end of Beth Gibbons' set to see Pulp from a decent vantage point.
Edit: Just watching the 6Music set Beth did to promote her new album on iPlayer and if my eyes aren't deceiving me, it looks like Emma Smith is playing violin for her! Her sprint across to play with Pulp in Barcelona will have to be even quicker than mine!
-- Edited by Eamonn on Tuesday 28th of May 2024 09:57:02 PM
I might be able to. I have Prime and a screen capture on my video editor. but it's really late and i have an early start at work on Friday. I'm not promising anything.
Is anyone else going to this? This week is my summer holidays so I'm making a few days of it in Barcelona. At Gatwick now, just realised I've forgotten my glasses so will have to be up near the front for everything I see at Primavera. Feel bad about that as a tall person! Anyway, looking forward to it.
I'm going to attend this one. And about the streaming, it is not 100% secure that Pulp will be streamed on Twitch/Prime. In that case, a friend of mine would rip it with no problem. Eamonn, would be so nice to meet you!
And about the streaming, it is not 100% secure that Pulp will be streamed on Twitch/Prime.
That was my initial feeling, but fingers crossed, we may get lucky! Would be nice to finally get some extensive pro-shot footage of this iteration (only managed three songs at Isle of Wight last year).
Sunrise sounded incredible. They finished with Razz, which also sounded brilliant, Jarvis just singing.
Generally I thought they sounded tighter than last year, a bit more welly in some of the songs.
Great reaction for Candida any time the screen zoomed-in on her. Some twat in front of me smirked any time it showed her fingers playing the keyboard. The boring git didn't move for any of the songs.
I was about 20% of the way back, arriving from Beth Gibbons' set (no regrets, she was amazing and made me cry) but the crowd reaction to Pulp seemed really warm as you'd expect.
Bloody typical. Missed the first half hour but managed to sort out the laptop (if you catch my drift) in time for Sorted. Hopefully someone else was on the ball from the start...
Theres a 1440p version on YouTube, but I cannot grab this from my phone as is a Webvm file. Does anyone have the ability to rip this quality? Thank you! youtu.be/AANqEcpdI7M
Theres a 1440p version on YouTube, but I cannot grab this from my phone as is a Webvm file. Does anyone have the ability to rip this quality? Thank you! youtu.be/AANqEcpdI7M
Sadly the intro and the first line of "I Spy" are missing, but otherwise it's the best quality I've seen so far.
(Big thanks to Hugo for his efforts!)
-- Edited by Pip on Saturday 1st of June 2024 11:23:34 AM
I thought this was a very good set though it does seem Jarvis cannot hit the high notes anymore. He did not sound as raspy as on the Mexico clips I watched the other day but definitely lacks the range he once had. Not that he needs to hit very many high notes, but I fear those of you clamouring for The Fear will be mildly disappointed if they ever play it. Anyway, they all looked like they were having loads of fun, especially Nick during Babies, his baby. Now counting down the days to the first Toronto show
I thought this was a very good set though it does seem Jarvis cannot hit the high notes anymore. He did not sound as raspy as on the Mexico clips I watched the other day but definitely lacks the range he once had. Not that he needs to hit very many high notes, but I fear those of you clamouring for The Fear will be mildly disappointed if they ever play it. Anyway, they all looked like they were having loads of fun, especially Nick during Babies, his baby. Now counting down the days to the first Toronto show
Hmm I dont know about that. Jarvis is in great form at the moment and his voice sounds better than ever. Arguably far better than the 2011/12 Reunion tour as well. I dont think he sounds particularly raspy either - quite crisp, especially in songs like Weeds and F.E.E.L.I.N.G
I think it would be great to hear The Fear, not only to hear Jarvis vocals but also for all of the other components of the song that are just as important - Marks excellent guitar, and the songs strong bass line!
LOL, OK, I guess my opinion is just plain wrong then?
I just did an a/b of DYRTFT at Reading 2011 vs Barcelona 2024. Both excellent performances, but I can't see how anyone could deny that Jarvis sounds noticeably older now, especially on the high notes. And that's to be expected, he's 60, it's an observation not a criticism. Overall I do think he and the band have adapted very well to being 12 years older than the last time out, but I don't see the point in pretending they aren't showing the years. Jarvis can't jump as high as he once could either, noticing it doesn't make you a hater or mean that you enjoy the performance any less. It's just different.
The Fear is special to me because it's the very first Pulp song I heard. For a long time I didn't think it would be a great live song... then I saw the Finsbury Park 1998 clip and oh my, what an absolutely incredible performance all around. So yes, I'd like to see/hear it too, but I would expect it to be quite different from the 1998 version -- and that's fine.
-- Edited by Pulp Friction on Monday 3rd of June 2024 03:10:08 PM
I think Jarvis is doing well considering he's 60. Nick suggested at his talk that 'Mis-Shapes' fell from the setlist because of its high notes, but it's a regular this tour and Jarvis has hit those notes very well. And also on 'Lipgloss' and 'Monday Morning' too.
I do agree that the band are, as you've said, adapting very well to being 12 years older. I think quite a lot of the songs sound a bit slower this time, but also more expansive and heavy-hitting. 'Pink Glove' comes to mind.
Jarvis's voice might sound a little deeper and have a different resonance, but it was one of the very noticeable things about last year's gigs for me that his singing was better than it had been before (if you look at some of those 2011/12 gigs there's a lot more talk-singing and shouting). And I also think his voice sounding a little 'maturer' also adds to some of these songs. It adds a bit of pathos to the likes of 'Disco 2000' and 'Like a Friend'. But overall I think they're really rolling back the years with these gigs.
(Count me in for another who thinks they could bring back 'The Fear')
-- Edited by lipglossed on Monday 3rd of June 2024 04:45:04 PM
LOL, OK, I guess my opinion is just plain wrong then?
I just did an a/b of DYRTFT at Reading 2011 vs Barcelona 2024. Both excellent performances, but I can't see how anyone could deny that Jarvis sounds noticeably older now, especially on the high notes. And that's to be expected, he's 60, it's an observation not a criticism. Overall I do think he and the band have adapted very well to being 12 years older than the last time out, but I don't see the point in pretending they aren't showing the years. Jarvis can't jump as high as he once could either, noticing it doesn't make you a hater or mean that you enjoy the performance any less. It's just different.
The Fear is special to me because it's the very first Pulp song I heard. For a long time I didn't think it would be a great live song... then I saw the Finsbury Park 1998 clip and oh my, what an absolutely incredible performance all around. So yes, I'd like to see/hear it too, but I would expect it to be quite different from the 1998 version -- and that's fine.
-- Edited by Pulp Friction on Monday 3rd of June 2024 03:10:08 PM
Harsh! I cant jump like Jarvis does around the stage for two hours and Im 21! Hes doing so well and I think hes a better performer than the clips Ive seen from 11/12, and I also think everyone sounds better instrumentally than the previous tour. I wouldnt say its just different to the previous tours, but its better. I dont think theyre showing the years whatsoever, in any stretch of the imagination! I think Jarvis deserves so much credit for sounding so much better despite being 12 years older.
I don't think I'm being particularly harsh. And I certainly don't think I could do what Jarvis does, at this or any other age. At the risk of repeating myself, there's nothing wrong or bad with Jarvis or anyone else showing their age, it is what it is. But it is noticeable to me. And I'm surprised to be getting so much pushback just for noticing it! Kids these days...
Are the performances better than last time out? A matter of opinion. Barcelona 2011 was absolutely stunning, but so was Sheffield last year. I'd have trouble picking one over the other, though I do enjoy the more elaborate production of the current tour.
Speaking as one of those 'kids' I feel like people are kind of pulling your leg a bit... We do all know Jarvis is getting older. I think there's a balance to be had with fans' expectations and hopes of what Pulp being ambitious with sets and things and the reality of them all getting older and whatnot, but I don't feel like there's any drop-off of ability with that age, if anything when fans go to the shows they say they're just getting better and better. but I see what you're saying - it's 'different' in some ways - but I feel they're no less capable of putting out an amazing performance (and there's deffo more songs they could do, it's really about whether they feel like it - and some of them, like Mark, clearly do and shouldn't feel constrained by their age or other things! just do it!)
Pulp always deliver a quality performance and really seem to hold themselves to immeasurably high expectations, and if they're reading this forum I really hope they aren't dissuaded from playing what they want by age or any other factor. There's still a huge demand out there. I don't really have any setlist wishes now (mine were fulfilled entirely on Hogmanay!) but still. it wouldn't be any less good than it was 30 years ago, honest!
If Jarvis is moving any less then it might be worth remembering that he did actually break his ribcage last autumn. And I'd say he's 'doing well for his age', but... I must be awful hearing younger people talking about you like this - I mean, he's 60! he's not doddering old pensioner, he's sixty! There was a clip the other day of Ringo Starr energetically doing star jumps on stage, and he's 83 for crying out loud. (And a former alcoholic)
Anyway Jarvis has so far being singing really well this tour. If he really is as old as sixty then it isn't really showing to be honest!
-- Edited by lipglossed on Monday 3rd of June 2024 04:39:47 PM
One thing I really appreciate this time round is that Jarvis doesn't exclaim/shout certain key ascending moments so much - in 2011/12 for Disco 2000 he didn't sing "You didn't notice me at all", he talked it, stressing the "notice". Which bugged me quite a lot at the time!
This time round, he sings that line melodically.
Generally, there are some high-note moments that he ducks out of singing still but thankfully they don't seem to be at key/anticipatory moments of songs which is when you notice them more.
Can't believe Dublin is nearly a year ago. This Friday. Blew the socks off me last year. Wishing they'll be back but accepting if it's not to be. Last year was just the best ever. everyone seeing them this year, enjoy, it's an amazing stageshow
Yeah, I haven't gone back to compare 2011 and 2023 vocally but I do remember thinking last year that the vocals were more melodious and less talking. I mean he's never Mariah Carey (thank god!) but I remember thinking everything really sounded better. Having said that one of my friends did say last year, 'he talks his way through but it works' that was my favourite gig ever anyway so whatever they did worked for me!
One thing I really appreciate this time round is that Jarvis doesn't exclaim/shout certain key ascending moments so much - in 2011/12 for Disco 2000 he didn't sing "You didn't notice me at all", he talked it, stressing the "notice". Which bugged me quite a lot at the time!
This time round, he sings that line melodically. Generally, there are some high-note moments that he ducks out of singing still but thankfully they don't seem to be at key/anticipatory moments of songs which is when you notice them more.
A couple of songs have been pitched down for this tour I think, presumably for this reason - certainly Disco 2000 and I think Mis-Shapes too. And fair enough really, can't begrudge Jarvis at 60 not being able to sing like he did nearly 30 years ago. He's a long way off Am Dill Danding territory.
__________________
"Yes I saw her in the chip shop / so I said get yer top off"