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Well, what do you think?

I have had a few listens over the past week and I think it's a good album, the last two songs are my favourites. The majority of songs are quite fast, if you're looking for Suede ballads, look elsewhere. Brett described it as a "Punk album" which is quite accurate, in some places it is very vaguely similar to what Pulp were trying in 1981-2. I think it has some really good moments but the weakest of the 4 albums that they have released over the past 10 years. I only say that because I like Suede albums to have a good mix of faster songs and ballads. Either way, it's still great and I'm going to see them in March.

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Pulp '82! I'd love to see Brett's face if that was put to him!

It's gone straight in at number two, their highest album position since 1999 which is pretty impressive in a way. It took less than 20k sales to do that (with streaming even included, I believe) but given that it's their 4th album since reuniting in 2010, there's clearly no sign in slowing-down creatively.

I was crazy about them for a few years when I was at university and their early albums and bits and bobs after that will always be special to me but there's something about Brett's style (overwrought, insecure, lacking humour) that also comes through in his memoirs that turns me off a little, now. Also, their music style hasn't changed that much and the guitar sound sometimes feels samey/generic. Having said that, I know the new album has got great reviews everywhere so I'll check it out.

In some ways, I wish Pulp had put the hard yards in like Suede after reforming in 2012. I think we all would have settled for one new album in the past decade, let alone four! If Pulp had released 50 or so new songs in that time, I think we'd have got a an eclectic range of all sorts of material.

 

Suede have also been aggressive in their reissue policy, most of their 90s records have been deluxe'd/superdeluxe'd multiple times. They have an army of hardcore fans (actually called The Insatiable Ones) who to probably a large degree, keep the band ticking over, financially. They mobilised this week to buy/stream as many copies of the album as possible in order to get a good chart position.

In comparison to Pulp, whom I don't think have that number (1k-2k?) of obsessives but overall have a larger casual fanbase (Pulp's Spotify listeners per month is solidly over 2m, Suede's usually hovers jusr below the 1m mark) but yeah...it can be hard being a Pulp diehard when hibernation is the name of the game 90% of the time over the last 20 years.

Fair play to Suede though, great work ethic and still inspired to create. There's always at least a couple of really good songs on their new records and being without a major label, they have managed to make their middle-aged career work for them by consistent touring and creating new and rehashed-old product for their fans.



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Ian wrote:

Well, what do you think?
Either way, it's still great and I'm going to see them in March.


Its pretty good, but I have only heard it once.  New Morning excepted, dont think suede have made an average LP, but Dog Man Star is their peak and would be hard to be bettered.

I am off to see them in about 10 days time, will let you know how good they are smile

 

 

 



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Eamonn wrote:

Suede have also been aggressive in their reissue policy, most of their 90s records have been deluxe'd/superdeluxe'd multiple times. They have an army of hardcore fans (actually called The Insatiable Ones) who to probably a large degree, keep the band ticking over, financially. They mobilised this week to buy/stream as many copies of the album as possible in order to get a good chart position.

In comparison to Pulp, whom I don't think have that number (1k-2k?) of obsessives but overall have a larger casual fanbase (Pulp's Spotify listeners per month is solidly over 2m, Suede's usually hovers jusr below the 1m mark) but yeah...it can be hard being a Pulp diehard when hibernation is the name of the game 90% of the time over the last 20 years.

Fair play to Suede though, great work ethic and still inspired to create. There's always at least a couple of really good songs on their new records and being without a major label, they have managed to make their middle-aged career work for them by consistent touring and creating new and rehashed-old product for their fans.


Have to confess, I have got suckered into the suede re-issues.  Two sets of LPs

I reckon Pulp have plenty of obsessives smile  Jarvis has had a more high profile/successful solo career than Brett Anderson.  Though I think Bernard Butler has done some great work post suede and rarely disappoints.  His latest album with Jessie Buckley is well worth a listen or ten.

It is a shame that Pulp didnt do similar in last 10 years. 



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I listened to a bit the other night and was enjoying it. Theyve had a solid second act after reforming, and although every band who reforms have their reasons - bands like Suede really set the bar and put others to shame with their post-reunion output. Solid rereleases and lots of new music & b-sides and a lot of touring.

I felt gutted when the Stone Roses Reformed as they talked a lot about new music, then eventually after a bunch of failed attempts at new music they released those two tracks, one was crap and the other was alright, then imploded again. But upon seeing the reunion gigs there was obviously lots of musical gas left in the tank going off the improvisations they were pulling out.

Pulp again was one where an LP could have materialized but just didnt. The release of After You & Jarvis hinting at potential new stuff in a couple of interviews really teased that hope - then nothing happened, and the bigger part of me expects this second reunion to yield no new music either, so its a shame. Suede show how it could be done.

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Of course, I say that knowing full well that the only Punk I've ever listened to in my life is the early Pulp songs. I have listened to The Fall a couple of times and a couple of reviewers have compared "Autofiction" to them. Pulp were also compared to them in an early review.

I agree with the above comments that Suede really have set the bar high in terms of reunions. Whilst none of the post-reunion material reaches the heights of the first 2 albums, it tries bloody hard. Yes, "A New Morning" had some very nice moments but also some absolute flops. When I bought it, I thought "oh well, the b-sides will probably be better", but they weren't. Also, can I take this opportunity to mention "Sci-fi Lullabies"? For those that don't know, it's a Suede b-sides compilation that covers 1992-97 and many fans regard it as a great album in its own right.

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legohairjordan wrote:

 Suede really set the bar and put others to shame with their post-reunion output.

 Suede show how it could be done.


Ian wrote:


Suede really have set the bar high in terms of reunions.


Having seen them last night, they have the freshness of a new band with an extensive back catalogue.  They played the whole of the new LP for starters and then in the second half mixed the post-2010 material with the pre-2000 songs almost seamlessly.  Best concert I have been to in a long time.  Not only setting bar high for reunions, suede are setting it high full stop.    



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