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A curiosity I had while listen to the sessions from the early 90s again.

Personally, I think a few songs from His 'n' Hers have better versions- both sessions or demos that are better than the album. I don't think Pink Glove sold me until I heard the Hit the North version, and She's a Lady's Goodier session feels truer with that violin. Take You Back's new wave-y version from Sudan Gerri is also great and I Want You's demo very closely matches up if not for the shoddy vocal production.

Meanwhile, I believe that Sheffield: Sex City's sessions are almost as good, very close, but I don't think it captures the true nature of the original. Same goes for the Happy Endings demo, but if only they kept more of that guitar and Jarvis's more natural vocal for the HnH version.



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I think I'm in a minority here but I've always said that the "Sudan Gerri" versions of "Little Girl (with Blue Eyes)", "Blue Glow" and "The Will to Power" are slightly better than the finished versions. Everything just seems a bit more relaxed.

I also think that the "Sudan Gerri" version of "Maureen" is better than the "Ping Pong Jerry" version. The latter just seems to lose something and the "right now, now" bit is better than "right now".

Also, I think that "I Love Life" sounded better when they performed it for the Peel Session. The album version just sounds a bit overcooked. Speaking of which, I think that "Sylvia" always sounded better live.

I think Nick mentioned a demo version of "I'm a Man" in Sturdy's book that isn't as over-guitary as the finished version. I haven't heard this but I think it would make for an interesting listen.

I agree that the demo version of "I Want You" is great but it would have sounded better without all the echo.


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I think I can agree on "Blue Glow", but I love what they did with "The Will to Power" on the single. Any version of "Little Girl" is equally good for different reasons to me.

I quite dislike the Ping Pong Jerry "Maureen", even though it's a favorite from the era.



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The Peel Version of "Wishful Thinking" was always better than the It version imo.

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Peel version of Pink Glove is so much better than studio that it's unreal. They really sucked the life out of that song for HnH.

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All the Peel versions/radio sessions are generally great and in some cases more interesting than the the studio versions. Live On, She's A Lady and Pink Glove big cases in point.

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I think we can all pretty much agree that the Mark Goodier session is ace and superior to the updated released tracks..
Should have been released as an e.p in my opinion..
I also think the live renditions of "Death ll" are also superior to the lp version..

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"FEELINGCALLEDLOVE" is an interesting one for me.

It was instantly my favourite Pulp song when I heard it on the album and it just seemed to get better with each listen. Because it was that good, I thought that it would lose something when they played it live. However, when I saw them in 1995 or 6, it didn't. They managed to maintain perfection, which is good.

However, when they performed it differently in 2000, I was totally blown away. They had actually managed to improve on perfection. It was exciting enough to hear the new songs but "FEELINGCALLEDLOVE" just surpassed everything else in the set.

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I agree Ian. The versions from both Homelands and Leeds 2000 are jaw dropping.

I know I harp on about Mark on this forum, but compare his guitar parts on that song from Glastonbury 98 to the keyboard intro/guitar switch midsong and it's just fucking awesome.

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I love Pulp's records but I think it was a constant pattern through Pulp's career that live concerts, radio sessions and demos tended to capture them better. I wonder if there was a bit of imposter syndrome at play - "We're not good enough, we need this record to make us sound like competent musicians even though we're not" - and things sometimes ended up getting a bit overthought as a result.

In a way it's a shame that Jarvis now seems to have recently arrived at an approach to recording that's much more about capturing the moment of inspiration - if he'd come to that realisation a decade or two earlier, we might have a few more Pulp records, and perhaps even better ones too!

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First one to mind for me was the Peel session version of Pink Glove, complete with your friend called Heather. Vastly prefer this to the one on the album.

We really do need a Pulp at the BBC box, with at least one DVD full of TV appearances, as well as all the radio sessions.



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