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Not sure I can justify buying a sixth version of this.  (didnt read other thread first)

A proper box with 12" Sisters EP as well as 12" Lip Gloss and DYRTFT? (And a single LP) would have been more authentic.

Maybe it is a 45rpm LP.

https://thesoundofvinyl.com/*/Pre-Orders/His-N-Hers-Exclusive-25th-Anniversary-Edition-White-Vinyl/69Z00JXN000

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no Babies???

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No Babies on original vinyl either.



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yes I know but with Babies also present on the Sisters e.p. these should have been added to this deluxe edition. I'd buy it if they had been added

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yes I know but with Babies also present on the Sisters e.p. these should have been added to this deluxe edition. I'd buy it if they had been added

Shame it wasnt 3*12 singles plus single LP, but then it would be about £50-£60.  Also Razzmatazz could be added as a bonus 12" as that was on the US version.

His n Hers was reissued 3 years ago with identical track listing, which I got and I have the Sisters ep on 12 from back in the day. 

Also appears to be a black double vinyl version with original track listing.

https://thesoundofvinyl.com/search.html?term=Pulp

 



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Disappointing that this what Steve & Jarv worked on. Wont be buying it for sure since HnH didnt really remastering. DC, that's another matter...

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Don't worry, DC has almost certainly been done too. Wait til next year for its 25th.

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Eamonn wrote:

Don't worry, DC has almost certainly been done too. Wait til next year for its 25th.

I expect a super deluxe vinyl edition.  

Double LP, 4 12" singles and Glastonbury double LP for about £100.



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Don't worry, DC has almost certainly been done too. Wait til next year for its 25th.

 

hehe yeah i suppose they did. Kinda sad Jarvis is working on this rather than new material. I mean, it's been almost six months since he released Must I... starting to lose hope for new material. Was hoping for an autumn release but it seems unlikely now.



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I wouldn't be so doubtful. In his last interview (Guardian, last month) he said he had changed his mind about Jarv Is just being a live thing and he also intimated in his radio chat with Lauren Laverne at the start of the summer that an album was in the works.
He's also got his book to finish and the other dozen projects he seems to be working at any one time. I agree it's probably too late for announcing a 2019 LP release but I would expect it by next Spring.


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H n H & Different Class weren't remixed for the last reissues were they? It'll be interesting to hear the result. I casually had a listen to The Beatles Abbey Road 2019 mix after I saw so many people were banging on about how good it is & I was surprised as to hear that it really is great as they say.

If they were just realising the straight album with no extras- I could have done without the double vinyl. It's not at all a relaxing experience listening to an album that you have to get up & turn over every 10 minutes.

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If they were just realising the straight album with no extras- I could have done without the double vinyl. It's not at all a relaxing experience listening to an album that you have to get up & turn over every 10 minutes.

Depends on the record. The original Elvis Costello LPs suffered from groove cramming, so the 45rpm double LP of Get Happy!  was a lot superior and with 5 tracks on each side a reasonable duration. Suede did similar with Night Thoughts.

However His n Hers is too short, especially with no Babies. But I would like to hear it, so....



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Intro is 26 today I just noticed on Pulpwiki. A vinyl reissue of that (with a few extra goodies) would be great.

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Hey all - just to point out that this is not the deluxe edition repackaged. It doesnt have any b-sides or demos. It is the original album split over 2 discs, presumably for higher fidelity (and for a higher price tag).

3 tracks on side one, and 2 tracks on side two of both discs.

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Yeah, we know!

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Eamonn wrote:

Intro is 26 today I just noticed on Pulpwiki. A vinyl reissue of that (with a few extra goodies) would be great.

A plain straight vanilla vinyl reissue would do me, as I have most of the other vinyl releases, except Countdown and MOTU which I am not too worried about.  Intro was my first Pulp album.

Alternatively, a box set of the Gift 12" singles (O.U. , Babies,  Razzmatazz) .



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Pulp don't seem to be willing on raiding the vaults, which is a shame if you ask me.

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I noticed the same this morning, which prompted a pre-work play of Intro - still sounds great, still one of my favourite Pulp releases. I would love a repress of Intro and have had my fingers crossed it would appear at some point. I agree with ArrGee, a straight forward reissue would do, I have most other Pulp stuff I want on record already.

As for the forthcoming His n Hers reissue, it does seem like a missed opportunity really, I'll stick with my Music On Vinyl copy. Here's hoping for a decent box set one day... 



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Pulp don't seem to be willing on raiding the vaults, which is a shame if you ask me.

 

Is there anything left from 94/ 95 ? Apart from WLL and TIH era, i think pretty much everything (that will sell, so HnH and DC tracks) has been released in 2006 ?



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There's no unreleased songs but there are lots of unreleased demos of songs from those albums. And these days that (plus maybe some live recording) is more than enough for a reissue.

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Eamonn wrote:

There's no unreleased songs but there are lots of unreleased demos of songs from those albums. And these days that (plus maybe some live recording) is more than enough for a reissue.

 

right, i'd love to hear demos, but live stuff i dont know, I'm not that interested since Pulp kinda played the songs the same way as on the record. Would not justify a buy for me. 



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Live concerts were what I had in mind. 2 shows released across their whole career.

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Live concerts were what I had in mind. 2 shows released across their whole career.

 Arguably 4 official ones, ignoring bootlegs and broadcasts; though a couple were only on video.  And Peel Sessions CD2 was a live compilation

  1. Party Clowns: Live in London 1991 
  2. F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.I.V.E.
  3. The Park is Mine
  4. This Is Glastonbury

I suspect Glastonbury 95 will be released next year along with Different Class.  



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Okay okay, but visually there are 2. Party Clowns is excellent.

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are we ignoring pulpwiki.net/Pulp/ThisIsGlastonburyBonusDisc ?

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robbroncs wrote:

are we ignoring pulpwiki.net/Pulp/ThisIsGlastonburyBonusDisc ?

 

No.

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Arguably 4 official ones, ignoring bootlegs and broadcasts; though a couple were only on video.  And Peel Sessions CD2 was a live compilation

  1. Party Clowns: Live in London 1991 
  2. F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.I.V.E.
  3. The Park is Mine
  4. This Is Glastonbury

 



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Has anyone got the new HnH vinyl release? Any major differences in the waveforms etc.? Worth the wonga?

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Some indications online (Discogs) that this release does actually contain Babies. Can anyone confirm? Might be the difference in deciding whether to shell-out for it or not...

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hello, first time posting here!

 

I just got my copy in the mail today and can say initially that it is significantly different than the 2012 reissue. The most major variation I found on a first listen is that the keyboards and synths throughout the album are much much louder. Babies, Pink Glove, and Happy Endings are what most stuck out to me as exceptional. I'm sure I'll notice something else on another listen, it really did sound great and quite different.



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Oh, great! Thanks for the info and welcome to a bachelor's den.

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Hmmmmmm
Was going to skip this, but if people are finding it a good listen I might give it a punt. The white vinyl is pretty too...

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Popped into Action Records today to purchase my HnH double white vinyl limited edition. Was quite impressed with the packaging, nice artwork and presentation is very good. HOWEVER......everyone should know there are TWO versions of this release. The white vinyl version, and the BLACK vinyl version. I was under the assumption there was only one release of this, and it was a white vinyl release. Now im lumbered with another bloody version of HnH which I have just paid 23 quid for. Pretty annoyed by this. The only good thing I will say is that there is a download card within the vinyl so you can download the remastered version in digital format. It does sound pretty nice to be fair, however I cant help but feel duped.

2 out of 10 .

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The white one is rarer and it'll sound the same as the black one, they were both advertised on the original release information details from that link to Universal's website. Not sure why you're annoyed? £23 is also the cheapest by at least a fiver I've seen it advertised for. Sellers on discogs already have it at North of forty quid.

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Ahh, I thought it was just all round released on white vinyl

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Actually, they probably could have been clearer in their description, reading back again.
Sound-wise, are you hearing anything different? I'm still undecided on buying it or not.

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If this was my first time of buying HnH, I would turn around and say that it's a good album, nice balance of audio.

However, we all Pulp perfectionists so I'm going to dissect the bugger.

There is a definite improvement on the clarity of instruments - the only draw back is because the album is "bullerized" with lots of echo and reverb, its hard to tell just what they have done in some of the songs. Oh and the bass is significantly louder too which clearly will be a Steve Mackey influence. I feel that Jarvis vocals, are slightly quieter?

I would say that yes, this is a buy - with my personal selling factor being that you can download the record rather than actually having to play it. The download is in a zip, and it is WAV format rather than mp3.

The most notably differences are on Babies , DYRTFT, Pink Glove, Happy Endings and Acrylic Afternoons. I've not listened to David's Last Summer or Someone like the moon yet.

The version of Babies is also the original version and not the 94 version from The Sisters EP.

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Cheers. Yeah, it would require a remix to really shed new light on the album but that might take away from its charm.
Can't believe this new release is still being advertised without Babies.



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Bit the bullet and bought it today. Cheapest place I found it was HMV. They have it on sale for 23 quid which is kinda OK.

It sounds canny. As others have said, the bass is louder and the synths are clearer. Percussion is much clearer too. 'Babies' thumps along a bit more like the live versions do.

The whole thing sounds a lot less dated and you can pick out the individual instruments.

I'd say it's probably worth it ... but only just. Could have done with some extra artwork and extra disc with some additional tracks (b-sides from that era would have done the job.

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Weed.... did you hear the addition of an " oh yeah " in the exit part of lipgloss?

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Oh... I'll have another listen!

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I have no idea why they would just randomly include a minor change like that

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YES. There is an extra "Oh yeah" just before the coda kicks in. Sounds like it's the 2nd "oh yeah" copied and pasted in. Strikes me as a very 'Jarvis' kind of addition. It makes sense to be there I suppose.

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I'm so glad this forum is still here, I'd never have known about the reissue without it, and definitely wouldn't have considered buying it! I'm loving it. The remastering is subtle, for sure, but there is so much that stands out on careful listening. Babies in particular sounds better than ever.

The Lipgloss issue seems like a mistake to me - like it was always on the master tape, and someone forgot to mute it? It's the kind of thing they couldn't have timed perfectly live, so I can imagine Jarvis wanting to take it off the original mix so it wasn't quite so polished!

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Just received this. Not listened to it yet but having never had HnH on vinyl before, you really appreciate the impact of the cover image up-close. Quite striking, especially compared to DC.
A digital download code was mentioned earlier in this thread, I can't see reference to this in the packaging?

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Yeah its inside - I bought the Jollification- lightning seeds reissue recently too, and that also had a download slip.

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Got email at 1pm today with this at half price. Sold out by 5.15pm when I checked

www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/Exclusive-Ltd-Vinyl/His-N-Hers-Exclusive-25th-Anniversary-Edition-White-Vinyl/69Z00HQX000

Probably just as well.  Not as if I dont have about half a dozen variants already...



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I'm not a fan of modern vinyl reissues, i dont know why, probably because of nostalgia feelings for OLD things. 6 years ago i bought original record of His'n'Hers without main cover, but with inner sleeves only for 2 pounds. I think it's great purchase. And a few years ago i saw guy on ebay that was selling different record covers only, H'n'H was on it, but he didnt want to sell H'n'H only. I was so close to assembling a puzzle

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