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Just wanted to say that it was really nice meeting some people, both old and new, off the forum yesterday. I had a really great time at the premiere. I'm glad everyone who could make it made it and I hope you all enjoyed Sheffield.



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We had an ace day didn't we? Still can't get over Jarvis and family taking the seats in front of us.

What did everyone think of the film?



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'Twas good but what I really want to know is was your bag still in the grit bin?

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It was really nice to see some of you. I'm back now on my sofa, watching my photos and enjoying myself. After the Q&A some of us were in the Leadmill. As we came in they played "DYRTFT". What a welcome! Maybe more tomorrow. Thank you all for you're nice company!

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Hello all!

What a night that was! Firstly, apologies for the length of this post, but there's a lot to say. It was great to briefly chat with Eamonn and Sturdy, both top guys and very friendly! Also nice to see Jazza again.

As you can imagine, both myself and my partner Kayleigh were rather nervous at going to the premiere, knowing that it was likely that we would appear on the big screen at some point. Viewing it brought back just how cold that day was, and the shock of having Florian suddenly appear with a camera to interview us! We both looked a mess, and likely talked a lot of nonsense, but nevertheless we were thrilled that he decided to include us in his film. He really didn't have to do that, but in doing so it's made it much more personal to us, and - as we were glad to tell him at the afterparty - the film will be a lovely souvenir we will always treasure.

We thought it was great. We liked that unusual mixture of concert footage with anecdotes from those unique characters (some of whom we had the chance to meet afterwards), particularly the funny young lad in Castle Market, the rather profound words of that sweet young girl Liberty and the elderly lady who said there was no point in being miserable, before dragging on her cigarette! Jarvis' contributions were brilliant as expected, and Candida was admirably honest about her condition. Also, Florian made a great point in that the film was better for being about the things you cannot easily look up on Google or YouTube - it felt very fresh.

As for the day itself, we were surprised to spot both Mark and Nick with their families in the Mercure hotel during the afternoon, but we didn't want to bother them. The situation after the Q&A was very bizarre: whilst we waited with our friend at the stage door, a few of our fellow fans recognized us from the film and one sweet lady actually asked for a picture with us! Quite ridiculous, but rather flattering nonetheless! Is she here on Bar Italia, I wonder? If you are, thank you for making us feel important for that brief moment, that was fun.

The band appeared shortly afterwards, but as they were off to get their taxis we left them to it. We managed to say hello to Richard Hawley, who unfortunately is suffering from a slipped disc, I hope he's doing okay. Jarvis surprised us when HE recognized US and thanked us for being in the film! Sadly, although he agreed to have his photo taken with us - something we've never had - it suddenly became a bit too chaotic, and he had to go, and unfortunately we didn't get to speak to him at all at the afterparty either. A little patience from some fans would have improved the experience for everyone.

Similarly, we patiently waited to say hello to Nick Banks during the afterparty, after his rather fun DJ set; he was in conversation with someone, so we waited nearby. Although we've both been Pulp fans for a long time, we've rarely had the chance to speak to them, so it was exciting for us. However, whilst he was still in conversation, suddenly a crowd of 'fangirls' appeared with posters & cameras to mob him, and one even had the cheek to stand right in front of us, with her back to us! They knew we were there, and yet they completely blanked us. This really irritated us both, we felt completely invisible. The lack of awareness and social skills some people have amazes me, but there you go. We didn't let it sour our night though.

Thankfully they soon went away, having got what they wanted, and we had the pleasure of chatting not only to Nick, but also with his wife who was really kind to us - I look like her brother apparently! We talked about Nick's cheesy grin (see picture below) and supermarket shopping... turns out Mrs Banks and Kayleigh share a love of bargain hunting! They were great.


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We also had the chance to speak to both Steve (he shares our love of Owen Pallett) and Candida, who said she was a "big fan of you two!". It was at this point that I began to think I was dreaming and someone was going to wake me up shortly. To think of the 10 year old lad sat in his bedroom listening to the 'Carry On Camping' bootleg of Glastonbury '95, too young to go and see them, not knowing that nearly twenty years later he'd be at a party with his heroes... it was an amazing evening. And if it does turn out to be the bookend to Pulp, what an amazing final night to remember.



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Thanks to everyone I met on Saturday and congratulations Pip for getting your life written into the Pulp legacy.

I'm still composing my thoughts on the night and will write more later, but I just wanted to ask:

Did anyone else notice there was a new song on the soundtrack? It was on in the background whilst Jarvis was driving his car and talking about getting old (well, I think he was talking about getting old, I was a distracted by the song). It sounded a bit electroclash, like a Relaxed Muscle song. 



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 . A little patience from some fans would have improved the experience for everyone.

Similarly, we patiently waited to say hello to Nick Banks during the afterparty, after his rather fun DJ set; he was in conversation with someone, so we waited nearby. Although we've both been Pulp fans for a long time, we've rarely had the chance to speak to them, so it was exciting for us. However, whilst he was still in conversation, suddenly a crowd of 'fangirls' appeared with posters & cameras to mob him, and one even had the cheek to stand right in front of us, with her back to us! They knew we were there, and yet they completely blanked us. This really irritated us both, we felt completely invisible. The lack of awareness and social skills some people have amazes me, but there you go. We didn't let it sour our night though.

 

 


We completely stayed away from Jarvis because Albert was with him but I know what you mean about some other people, we were near the DJ stand for the whole party and the amount of people shoving past us to pester Jarvis was ridiculous, he really looked fed up, and I think thats why Kim asked to leave and they went early. similarly we didnt chat to any of the band (apart from Candida outside before the film - Jarvis' security man Gaz filmed with us in the swimming pool so we went to say hello while Jarvis was being interviewed and he asked if we wanted to meet her (she recognised us too!) - we just wanted to have fun and it was privilege enough to go to the party and see Jarv and Nick having so much fun DJing.

i did, however have a photo on the pink carpet with my lovely friend Florian, and later, when we were all a bit trashed, with Alex.image.jpg 

While we were watching the film, Jarvis, Kim, Albert and Christine (Jarv's mum) were just in front of us and every time Christine laughed she made us laugh, which sometimes made her laugh. So in parts we were giggling uncontrollably.

what an amazing night.



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Did anyone else notice there was a new song on the soundtrack? It was on in the background whilst Jarvis was driving his car and talking about getting old (well, I think he was talking about getting old, I was a distracted by the song). It sounded a bit electroclash, like a Relaxed Muscle song. 


 I think that was just Superbike by the Fat Truckers, one half of whom is the non Jarvis half of RM.



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I must confess I'm still on a massive high after the premiere. Florian said some very nice things to me and he included my name in the credits after being inspired by my Wickerman film! I have found that quite difficult to come to terms with but there you go. It was rather special and god bless Jarvis for playing that dub reggae version of the Star Wars theme tune.

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Haha I'd forgotten about that, that was pretty special ;)

heres an interview with Jarvis and Flo outside the city hall

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some of those choir women were really going for it at the party.

i think it was one of them who shoved her phone in front of Jarvis and filmed him.



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Jarvgirl wrote:
JjPip wrote:

 . A little patience from some fans would have improved the experience for everyone.

Similarly, we patiently waited to say hello to Nick Banks during the afterparty, after his rather fun DJ set; he was in conversation with someone, so we waited nearby. Although we've both been Pulp fans for a long time, we've rarely had the chance to speak to them, so it was exciting for us. However, whilst he was still in conversation, suddenly a crowd of 'fangirls' appeared with posters & cameras to mob him, and one even had the cheek to stand right in front of us, with her back to us! They knew we were there, and yet they completely blanked us. This really irritated us both, we felt completely invisible. The lack of awareness and social skills some people have amazes me, but there you go. We didn't let it sour our night though.

 

 


We completely stayed away from Jarvis because Albert was with him but I know what you mean about some other people, we were near the DJ stand for the whole party and the amount of people shoving past us to pester Jarvis was ridiculous, he really looked fed up, and I think thats why Kim asked to leave and they went early. similarly we didnt chat to any of the band (apart from Candida outside before the film - Jarvis' security man Gaz filmed with us in the swimming pool so we went to say hello while Jarvis was being interviewed and he asked if we wanted to meet her (she recognised us too!) - we just wanted to have fun and it was privilege enough to go to the party and see Jarv and Nick having so much fun DJing.

i did, however have a photo on the pink carpet with my lovely friend Florian, and later, when we were all a bit trashed, with Alex.image.jpg 

While we were watching the film, Jarvis, Kim, Albert and Christine (Jarv's mum) were just in front of us and every time Christine laughed she made us laugh, which sometimes made her laugh. So in parts we were giggling uncontrollably.

what an amazing night.


I imagine this is exactly what Mark was talking about in the film - Jarvis doesn't have the option of being very normal, though he seems to do his best to try. I saw a picture some random twitter person took yesterday of the back of his head which said "Jarvis is on my train!". People are very ready to moan that slebs cut themselves off from normal people, but they don't stop to wonder if there might be a good reason for that, and that they might be that reason. 

I am completely knackered now after expending all that emotion all weekend, have 2 important meetings to survive today, very bad timing, I'll see you all later. It was lovely seeing you all.



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I know one of those choir women quite well and she said that they'd filmed for two whole days all around Sheffield and all that was used in the film was that short clip of them rehearsing Common People.

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We filmed all day around Sheffield, but it's to be expected that a tiny part is going to be used because it's only a 90 minute film isn't it? Florian did say to us "you know it will literally be a minute or two don't you?" as we had seen Love Story a couple of days before we knew what to expect.  Although there was quite a bit of us in the concert footage, all our homemade tshirts were in :)



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We filmed all day around Sheffield, but it's to be expected that a tiny part is going to be used because it's only a 90 minute film isn't it? Florian did say to us "you know it will literally be a minute or two don't you?" as we had seen Love Story a couple of days before we knew what to expect.  Although there was quite a bit of us in the concert footage, all our homemade tshirts were in :)


 You must have one of the most overexposed backs in cinema history! smile



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Totally agree with you Jarvgirl about it being a privilege just to be there - I actually felt like a bit out-of-place, like a competition winner! And I'm sad to hear that was the reason Jarvis left - he must sometimes feel rather jealous of Mark being able to get on the bus, living a siimple life he'll never be able to have again.

But onto happier thoughts, I'm glad you guys had a great time too :)

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You should have made yourself known to us pip, I saw you wandering around a lot of sat night.

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Pip, I was the drunken one that came up to you around 1.30 saying 'I WAS AT THAT MANCHESTER GIG TOO'



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saw119 - that's a pity, it would have been a pleasure to chat - sadly, despite my intermittent presence on the forum all these years, I've not had the chance to meet too many of you all...

And weener, that was brilliant! A great way to make your acquaintance!

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It is interesting to read who was who and a pity that we didn't met all. I've met a lot of people here and you were very nice to me. Thank you Stephen for showing me a lot of places in Sheffield and the very informative talk about english history, that was so interesting!. Thank you Fran for waiting for me so long in the pub on Weststreet, because the lady in the hotel sent me in the complete wrong direction (otherwise I wouldn't have seen Ladysbridge and the Wicker), thank you Panther for asking me to come and the whole brilliant other things, thank you Eamonn and your girlfriend for singing and shouting with us in the leadmill and thank you Fuzzfree for meeting us in the Leadmill too, that was a really nice surprise. I've learned a lot this weekend. A jacket on and off weather is a really hot day in Sheffield (here we have 35 ° C), there are many hills in this town, very, very friendly people and and and. I don't want to bother you with all these little details, but I really enjoyed every minute. Oh! and the tea!

I was quite near at the townhall when the band arrived and I'm very proud on my tele photo lense, I wasn't that near as it looks. So, I hope, the attachments will work.



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Thanks Marion and I never even had a chance to discuss with you my love for post war German Kosmische Musik.

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For what????

Ah, I've googled that word: Tangerine Dream, Amon Düül and music like that? I'm sorry, I don't know a lot about it.



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Well, that's really why I never mentioned it. I particularly like Ash Ra Tempel, Amon Duul and Neu amongst many others.

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I have up my ticket to the Premier, first cos I needed to get things for my Holiday, but second cos I thought Id never be in it! And anyway I get this text from my Sis saying I'm in it !! Will have to make an effort when home to go watch my Oscar winning performance ;)

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At the end of your part, Barcroft, Jarvis leaned over and said something to Kim and nodded towards to screen. Wonder what he said!



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Lovely story Pip and was nice to meet you. As indeed the other folk off here - Saw, Fran, Marion(papparazzo extraordinaire), Deebs (whom I just bumped into going into the film and him being the first Bar Italian I met, at Primavera, felt fitting; Fuss Free with his popular Jarvis mask in the Leadmill and of course the inimitable birthday lady, Panther, who should be Pulp's PA. Maybe give her Liam's job as tour manager, less swearing and caged-lion references (you can't cage a panther).

I got to chat to Mark for five minutes or so when some of the above spotted him heading out of the after show so I legged-it round the corner with short-term suffering girlfriend in-tow. Unlike my meeting with Jarvis at the MotherBroLover launch (when I quivered and jibbered) or with Nick at the Arena aftershow (when he couldn't hear or just didn't get my crap quip that he was destined to have a steady pair of hands being the nephew of Gordon) this was more natural and satisfying. I told Mark there should have been more of him in the film to which he replied "No one wants to hear me going on!" and when I said he gets overlooked and wrote some great guitar lines for Pulp he thanked me addng. "It's nice that someone noticed!". He was really sweet, unfortunately fairly doubtful on future Pup, the time that the whole thing takes apparently the main obstacle. I didn't want to press him too much on it as they are clearly reluctant to talk about it as a collective. Thinking back, a quick question asking if they had had fun doing After You would have been a good one...I asked where he was putting his creative impetus and had he really not picked up his guitar during the hiatus. He said he hadn't and has just written a book about a film director, I think (?), whose name escapes me. I wished I'd more knowledge on his film interests but just asked about Little Stabs and he said that he had done it once last year but none of the kids were interested and he was djing to a tiny group of people by the end. Got me photo taken, his proviso was as long as it didn't end-up online. I like his dry humour and did laugh at his quote from the pink carpet that "We are suspicious of anyone who uses superlatives".

 

Returned to the group and then Paul Morley wandered out so we collared him. Seemed in a bit of a mood, got arsey about Florian not answering his questions and that he didn't think Pulp would do more without big money being on offer. Fair play to him for stopping to talk with us, but probably wasn't the best time. Got to bus to Forge Dam yesterday after finally finding the Jarvis-fall window. Has the faux-blue plaque sticker been up long?

 

Anyway, the cafe was there but they were only serving ice-cream from the hatch. I was sad to see no toy horse ride but peered in through the window of the caff and there it was! Slightly sinister and very plastic looking on a blue platform which I presume you feed coins in order for it to rock and play. They had stopped for the day. The best I could do was get a quick look and photo of it when they opened the door to bring the tables in after we had listened to Wickerman on the bench outside in the rain. Ridiculous and tragic indeed. Get there early next time. And the same bus route serves Mansfield Road and Intake so the pilgrimage can LIVE ON.



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Wow! At the risk of alienating every member of Pulp with my superlatives (see above), I have to say it has been wonderful and amazing reading everyone's impressions of the weekend's events on this forum tonight - the first proper chance I have had to do so, since returning from Sheffield on Sunday.

First of all, I agree, I was tremendous to meet people from the forum I had never met before: Maidmarion, Fran, Saw, Jarvgirl + friends, FussFree; as well as those I already know: Eamon + girlfriend; and any others I have accidentally omitted to mention. What a superb bunch! It was a pleasure talking to everyone and finally putting faces to names. Maidmarion: you are a legend for coming all that way from Germany when you didn't know anyone and for absorbing all of Yorkshire life like a sponge (and for putting up with my over-excited behaviour in the Leadmill, too, obviously!); Fran, for spotting me in my white rose straight away and linking us all up; Saw, for explaining everything about the streets of Sheffield and answering my endless questions; Jarvgirl, for resisting the urge to hug Jarvis round his neck when he sat right in front of you in the theatre, thus demonstrating masterful control of the arms; FussFree, for dancing with us and giving me your Jarvis mask, (which Maidmarion now has with her in Germany, as a memento of her trip).

Eamonn, thank you for your very kind words and YES, PLEASE, I'd love to be Pulp's PA - I could get them Sorted for Teas and Biscuits in a flash and help Jarvis with his French homework (he could do better). I'd make everything run so smoothly that they'd all have miles more spare time (for making new music).

This post is getting too long so, to be brief:

a) the film was so fab I'm going to see it again on Thursday night and will probably spot bits I missed the first time round
b) that was a very memorable 52nd birthday!





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Just re-read my post - of course, it should have read 'It was tremendous' not 'I was tremendous'. Bad mistake!

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Did anyone mention that we had a quick word with Florian on Sunday? It was cool and he is really nice. We told him that we'd loved his film and he stopped for a short chat (part of it in German with Maidmarion) before he had to rush off to a workshop thing.




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Eamonn - Gregory Markopolus.

 

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He was, wasn't he? he was sat next to Albert watching the film, so in front of us to my right, I noticed he didn't laugh once. I definitely don't think he was the right person.



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 Jarvgirl, for resisting the urge to hug Jarvis round his neck when he sat right in front of you in the theatre, thus demonstrating masterful control of the arms; 

 


 That was definitely a struggle wink I did consider tousling his hair at one point!



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Panther an I were reminded to Catweazle: The telling bone!!!!!!!
But she said, that Jarvis doesn't like that. Hm, somehow I can understand, but otherwise...



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He was, wasn't he? he was sat next to Albert watching the film, so in front of us to my right, I noticed he didn't laugh once. I definitely don't think he was the right person.


He didn't seem too happy when we talked to him, but he was still good enough to stop and talk to us for a while, in what seemed quite an open way. I saw Mark Radcliffe introducing Jarvis presenting something on the Folk Awards and that really made me cringe, I have managed to erase most of the details from my memory but he went on about Michael Jackson, nuff said. Paul did say amongst other things that none of them could hear each other, so he hadn't got much idea what answers anyone had given to pick up on, he could just see when they stopped talking! That wouldn't help.



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I enjoyed the Q & A. I thought the questions from him and the people in the audience were really nice and familiar (except the Deborah-question), so that everyone felt very comfortable. That's why I was so astonished, that Paul seemed so annoyed because of the bad acoustics. Very professionel, that he didn't let us remark that. But he was very pleased, that we liked it. The only question I had after this chat was: why did he has a black eye??

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I usually like Morley but he gave the impression that being there was the last place he wanted to be. Also, he really didn't need to hammer home his lack of love for "other platforms". We got the point. Maybe he was having an off day though and the reasons given above might explain why.

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Following on from Graham Walker's excellent interview with Florian he conducted an excellent video interview with Jarvis for the Sheffield Star. Here it is:

 

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So seems like everyone's had a pretty good weekend all round. I have been knackered ever since I got, far more excitement that I am used to! It was very exciting to meet you all. I was particularly excited that they found Terry, seemed like a bit of a fairytale.

It was good for me too to have a bit of time just to wander round Sheffield. My family demanded to see the pictures I had taken and looked pretty bemused by my explanations about the defenestration of Division St. and why I had a picture just of the street sign of the Wicker. 



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Fran, I have both photos of both those 2 things, too, so don't feel bad in fact, you kindly took one of them for me.

Good use of 'defenestration', too.

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Speaking of photos, I think Im probably ok to share this one now - we'd finished filming and had to have a photo taken with Parkhill flats obviously :)



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