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LeoVK


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Thought I would create a new thread for thoughts on these now that the discs are actually out (nearly!). "It" sounds incredible. The remaster job on this is immediately apparent, particularly on "Joking Aside", "Boats & Trains", "Love Love" and "In Many Ways". Sounds like a really well produced, classy record! "Freaks" and "Separations" are not quite so obvious in my opinion. Maybe a little less tape-hiss here and there and sounds like the bass has been whacked up a bit. The packaging on all the CDs is great...particularly "Freaks". What do we all think?

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I think you are the only one who has them Leo!



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If that is the case, I might do a few scans of the artwork and booklets when I get home this evening...if anyone is interested?

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I imagine most people on here will be getting them at some stage, I'm waiting til I get paid next week.

Don't feel you have to, Fire might get angry! How many pages are the booklets?

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I haven't had chance to go to HMV yet (that's if they have them in stock) but plan to so any "sneak preview" would be good!



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Perhaps I will just pick a few "choice" snapshots then!

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all of the ones of steve

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Picked up the first two today. Separations seems harder to track down!

Not listened yet, but the packaging is really beautiful. Freaks contains several unseen (by me) photos and an alernate cover that's evocative and tasteful and, well, lovely!

Liner notes aren't necessary but are well written and warm.

Well done to Fire thus far!

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I think you should refrain from posting the photos for a little while. I do think Fire have done a nice job here and it'd be nice to think that a few of us were making the effort to get these.

Certainly upload the photos at some point, but I think the day after release is a little too early.

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Does the remastered Freaks still distort a bit on the bass notes in places? It was always most noticeable on I Want You and Don't You Know.

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Not got that far yet. Only lisened to Little Girl which does sound rather 'warmer' for want of a better word.

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Still hearing distortion on "Don't You Know". I guess if the quality isn't there to start with, there isn't much that can be done.

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Yeah, I suspected as much. Thought maybe it had been the product of duff mastering on the original release, but I guess it must be there on the actual recordings.

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My albums have finally arrived! Overall, the albums are very well presented and the sound quality is amazing on all three albums.
Photos (camera photos, I still need to buy a scanner):
Front of all three albums (note that Separations doesn't have the same cover as reported)
Inside of It
Inside of Freaks
Inside of Separations
Photo from the It booklet
Another photo from the It booklet
Cover of the Freaks booklet
Photo from the Freaks booklet

The whole house is singing 'Anorexic Beauty' now thanks to me.



-- Edited by salmon92 on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 06:26:44 PM



-- Edited by salmon92 on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 06:27:12 PM

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Finally got my CDs in the post today!

The packaging is great - Loving the photos in the Freaks booklet!

Strange thing I noticed on Seperations: The left and right channels seem to be the opposite way around to what I am used to.

(Previously I owned the blue 'Pulped' boxset from 1999 (Cook CD178), so these are the versions of these albums I am used to. All of the new remasters sound better, to varying degrees, with It being the most noticeable, but this left/right swap on Seperations is weird)

The swap is most noticeable on This House Is Condemned. The hi-hat comes in a 4 seconds on the left on the remaster, but on the right on my disc from the Pulped boxset.

Which is the correct version? I presume the new remaster... but you never know... 

 



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Eamonn wrote:

Good work sbazb. With a name like that you're not from the land of srpski jeb are you?!

 He he he. No, nothing Serbian going on. I'm English. My initials are SB and I used to be in a band with Baz in the name, so I stuck it into the middle to make my online pseudonym  ... That was 13 years ago, and its just stuck since then...

Had a look at Seperations in a wave editor. Thankfully there is no evidence of mega-compression going on, like a lot of other remastered albums these days, that have all the original dynamics screwed up just to make it louder. The volume on the remaster seems to be boosted a little (about 1-2db) but this may just be down to the slightly heavy-handed bass boost that has been slapped across the whole album. Swings and roundabouts.... I'd prefer a little more clarity in the treble, but the bass end did need boosting, compared to the old master. They can't please everyone's pedantic tastes! They've definitely done a sympathetic job across the range though.... Well done to Fire, for a change! 



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Please tell me you still live with your parents! I love the idea of your Mam and Dad bopping around the house to Anorexic Beauty!

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Please tell me you still live with your parents! I love the idea of your Mam and Dad bopping around the house to Anorexic Beauty!

 Haha, yep, I'm still living at home. Occasionally, I'll just hear Dad belting out "The giiiiirl...OF MY...NIGHTMARES!!!!" from nowhere.



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Wow, that cover of the Freaks booklet is fucking boss!!

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Yes it is!

So buy it! Fire aren't gonna give us anything else if they don't at least recoup their costs on these!

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Thanks for posting those pics - looks like Fire have actually done a lovely job on these. So glad they managed to get hold of some more of Andy Gray's photos from the Freaks session (or maybe they had them all along) - I tried to get hold of him while we were putting the photos together for the book, to no avail. And keeping the misspelling of Steve's name from the original release of Separations is a nice bit of sort-of attention to detail! Speaking of which... "All songs written by Jarvis Cocker" on the Separations sleeve? Oh dear...

Anyone know which version of Manon they've used on Freaks?

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Stephen wrote:

Yes it is!

So buy it! Fire aren't gonna give us anything else if they don't at least recoup their costs on these!

 Have they got out else to give us?



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I don't think they do, not without the say-so from Jarvis anyway.
A shame that stuff like There Was, Maureen and Rattlesnake will likely never get a proper release.

I'll definitely be getting these. I probably was before but the lack of unreleased stuff on Freaks and Seppy put me off a bit. But the packaging and remastering seem to have been done really well.

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Listening to Seperations and comparing it to my old version.

The new remaster is definitely a lot more bassy, and there is less treble end. Mostly, this suits the tracks, especially Countdown, but it makes the end of Death II sound a bit odd (4mins55 onwards)... When the doubled up and delayed kick drum starts moving across the speakers things all get a bit muffled underneath! Would be ok in a club I guess, but its maybe a bit much on a home system or in headphones! Will be interesting to look at it all in a wave editor and see if this album has become victim to the dreaded 'loudness war'. That might be whats going on. I'll report back with what I find...



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Sturdy wrote:

Thanks for posting those pics - looks like Fire have actually done a lovely job on these. So glad they managed to get hold of some more of Andy Gray's photos from the Freaks session (or maybe they had them all along) - I tried to get hold of him while we were putting the photos together for the book, to no avail. And keeping the misspelling of Steve's name from the original release of Separations is a nice bit of sort-of attention to detail! Speaking of which... "All songs written by Jarvis Cocker" on the Separations sleeve? Oh dear...

Anyone know which version of Manon they've used on Freaks?

 The version of Manon is the same as on 'Masters of the Universe', except without the first 5-6 seconds of silence at the start that you get on 'Masters...'

I just discovered, that if you turn the volume right up you can hear a weird sound like mains hum and distortion before the vocals start. Odd! Anyway, it's not there on the remaster, which starts at the vocal, but is still detectable underneath the whole track. Dodgy noise reduction technology? Dodgy tape transfer? Maybe the only surviving version is on vinyl ...??

 



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