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shotoki


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I'd say yes. Pulp finally have the opportunity to get some recognition for their earlier work and show the public how great they were before they were famous. In many ways they were even better while they were on Fire. People have had their share of the hits with the Different Class heavy sets, so this would be the perfect follow up while everyone is still talking about Pulp. It is a risk, and maybe they could start with some smaller shows to get into the songs again, but I believe they could win the public over in the end if they play them with confidence. There are some really catchy songs like Little Girl With Blue Eyes and Dogs Are Everywhere, and people already know Countdown now. It would also be great to see a bit more of Russell on the violin, and even singing. Will To Power could be amazing live with a good light show.

So what does everyone think? Could Pulp pull it off? Or should this period remain obscure forever?



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Given Jarvis only included three lyrics from the 1980s in his new book, I'd say it's not on the cards. Plus I know for a fact that Russell thinks It is "shit".

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The lyrics were the one aspect which certainly improved after Fire, so it makes sense that he only included 3, he was young and less experienced then. He may still like the songs. Didn't know that about Russell though, such a shame

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complete with toilet paper! I'd say yes definetly they should, although whether they WILL is a completely different question - probably not. Would love to hear Russell doing some singing

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Pretty sure Jarvis has expressed a dislike for most of his old material at some point. As much as I love parts of Separations, I personally wouldn't go see a 1 album show if it was just FIRE stuff. Perhaps if they did a best of It/Freaks/Separations that would be more interesting?



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But they have played plenty of Fire songs before they broke up, so I would say it isnt out of the question. Unlikely maybe though. I agree a best of would be more appropriate than full album shows definitely, and they could balance it better then with the more accessible Separations stuff, so there is something for everyone. Personally I'd love to see whole album shows too.



-- Edited by shotoki on Monday 24th of October 2011 11:17:43 PM



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No chance whatsoever. In my opinion.

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Not sure whether I would want to watch shows of just the 80's material. What I guess I long for is to see a show where all periods of their career are played in equal quantities...all as one in perfect harmony! ;)

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Remember when Jarvis went on TFI Friday to tell people not to buy the Countdown compilation?

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fredthe3rd wrote:

Remember when Jarvis went on TFI Friday to tell people not to buy the Countdown compilation?

I believe most of that was down to the fact that it was not a release he was happy with (particularly the Different Class-esque artwork) rather than the songs themselves.

I think the current line up have done I Want You and Dogs Are Everywhere live, but not sure they have delved too deep into the pre-Separations world.  And I really wouldn't want them to.



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Oldies performed since 1994 or so:

Blue Girls
Little Girl (With Blue Eyes)
Dogs Are Everywhere
I Want You
Anorexic Beauty
Death Comes to Town
She's Dead
My Legendary Girlfriend
Love Is Blind
Countdown

Quite a few of those were once only, many years ago. More than I'd realised though, putting them all together.

Also - I seem to recall on the Lipgloss list many years ago, someone mentioned they'd cornered Mark at a gig (TiH tour I think) and he mentioned they'd also been rehearsing There's No Emotion and Aborigine!

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Sturdy wrote:

Oldies performed since 1994 or so:

Blue Girls
Little Girl (With Blue Eyes)
Dogs Are Everywhere
I Want You
Anorexic Beauty
Death Comes to Town
She's Dead
My Legendary Girlfriend
Love Is Blind
Countdown

Quite a few of those were once only, many years ago. More than I'd realised though, putting them all together.

 Interesting list, although three of those tunes were played at just one show, 18th Dec 1994. I don't think I'd like to hear a show composed entirely of It, Freaks and associated singles. Would love to hear a Separations show though. However, I feel that the chances of that happening are slim to nil.



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Wow thats almost an entire sets worth already! Would love to hear Aborigine live too

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saw119 wrote:
Interesting list, although three of those tunes were played at just one show, 18th Dec 1994.

True in the case of Death Comes to Town and Love Is Blind, but I Want You got played a few times on the Hardcore and Forest tours.



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One thing I've always observed with Pulp is that they are often not very adventurous with their setlists.

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Plus I know for a fact that Russell thinks It is "shit".

Hi, just seen this... I'm really surprised if Russell's said that about Pulp's '80s output as I always had the impression he was very proud of that stuff, especially the Freaks period. Where did he say this?



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I'd love to hear Separations stuff played live, but I guess I can only dream about hearing Death II. I'm also really surprised that they never brought back Don't You Want Me Anymore?, always thought that song had a lot in common with late period Pulp.

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saw119 wrote:
Sturdy wrote:
Oldies performed since 1994 or so..
Interesting list, although three of those tunes were played at just one show, 18th Dec 1994.

So 5 pre-Separations,  of which Blue Girls and Anorexic Beauty (Where did they play that?)  are very unexpected.   I would have expecetd Master of the Universe to have been played above either of the afore mentioned.

The Theatre Royal show was the Brixton of its day smile.  Fortunate to have been at both.



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Going back to TFI Friday, didn't he say he wasn't particularly proud if the stuff he did when he was really young? Or was that just politics?

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Is that a reference to Pulp or the bands he was in before he joined?

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ArrGee - Anorexic Beauty was played at one date on the TiH tour, and one date on the WLL tour I think. Sadly there don't seem to be any recordings of either. Can't agree with you about Master of the Universe - that's defintely one Jarvis is on record as saying he's intensely embarrassed by!

Fred - I don't think Russell was ever interviewed on TFI Friday was he? Or do you mean Jarvis talking about the stuff on Countdown?

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Does anyone have the interview on TFI Friday of Jarvis requesting people not to buy Countdown? Was it the time they played Something Changed and Babies on it?

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I'm talking about Jarvis! I never mentioned Russel did I?

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ah right - the 'he' was ambiguous smile I think Jarvis is just generally embarrassed by the naivity of It 



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No you didn't, cross purposes sorry. I think on TFI Friday, Jarvis compared some of the material on Countdown to finding an embarrassing piece of poetry you wrote when you were 17. I think he's mellowed on some of the old stuff since though - his main concern at the time was that it was being marketed alongside Different Class, with a similar style of artwork as ArrGee said. Obviously that's not such a concern now - the It reissue won't be competing with a new album or trying to ride on its coat tails, so I can imagine him being a bit less uptight about his guilty indie past coming back to haunt him!

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