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A funny thing happened to me this morning.  After years of describing Bad Cover Version as one of my worst Pulp songs (before I heard Silence), I found myself actively seeking it out to play this morning.  Not even as part of the whole package of We Love Life, but just that track on it's own.  Next thing I knew, I was putting it on repeat, and the penny dropped that I have been converted to liking this song a lot.  I've always thought the lyrics very interesting and clever, but at the same time found the sound of it grating.  But not anymore.

Is this an unusual occurance to completely change your mind about a song?  Whether it's one you disliked but now love, or one you used to love and then went right off, it would be interesting to hear.



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I thought A Little Soul sounded like Phil Collins until I corrected my brain. Also didn't like Something Changed when I first heard it. How mega wrong was I?

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I used to hate Help the Aged. I thought it sounded really cheesy. But now it's one of my favourites.

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I used to think We Are The Boyz was the greatest song ever now I think it's a bit ropey.

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fredthe3rd wrote:

I used to think We Are The Boyz was the greatest song ever now I think it's a bit ropey.


 The clue was in the title.

Help the Aged is a stange one that I can't  make my mind up about.  Sometimes I love listening to it, but if I am in the wrong mood, again it's a song that can grate a bit (but never as much as Phil Collins!)



-- Edited by anet on Sunday 9th of October 2011 08:45:58 PM

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I always used to skip Seductive Barry but now it really makes TIH for me.

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Strange that you mention Bad Cover Version, Anet. I remember you saying before you thought it was terrible. Today on the bus home I was listening to it. I love it but I've often thought something doesn't quite sit right about it, the structure maybe. The coda at the end is interesting and has great lyrics that sum-up the song but the chorus is so glorious and is only played twice.

I also didn't rate A Little Soul much for a long time, thought it was too plodding and self-pitying but it really is a fine little song and manages to perform the difficult task of writing about a wayward, absent-father without being mawkish.

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I've always thought Bad Cover Version sounded horribly plodding, and whiney and naff. I now appreciate this as being a deliberate tactic to produce a 'bad cover' sound. I'm now hearing it as transcending it's badness to become very good. A bit like Dogs Are Everywhere - so awful that it is bloody brilliant!

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I never really liked FEELING CALLED LOVE, until about 2 years ago when I was seriously getting back into Pulp again I saw a version from Route de la Rock on Youtube, and it just souded fantastic. Then I got a recording of it at Leeds from 2000, and my jaw hit the floor.

However, the 2011 version is a bit of a mish-mash of 1995 and post 2000 version, doesn't quite gel somehow. Still good, but not that good.

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You didn't like Feeling called love?!?!?????!!?

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I did, but it didn't DO anything to me - ie that expression you loved so much - hairs on the back of the neck, until the post 2000 version.

Never liked Babies much, come to think of it. It seems a little too "happy" for want of a better word.

Found myself singing "Live Bed Show" at work the other day and I finally "got" it. How wonderfully sad it is.

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....or not in my case :(

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Wickerman. Never liked it, as I don't like the overall sound of WLL.
However, having heard it live this year it has fast become a firm favourite & I love the demo too!

I used to like Space, but the version on the HnH reissue put me right off.

Used to find Something Changed a bit slushy, but my friend Brian's enthusiasm for it has become infectious.

Went off FEELINGCALLEDLOVE at Wireless, but fell right back in love with it when they returned to the traditional version at Reading. So I changed my mind on that one twice!

Learned to love Silence after covering it for a joke.

Used to find That Boy's Evil interesting, now I just don't see the point in it.

Shockingly used to find Common People irritating as for a long time it was the only Pulp song people realised existed, but now I admit it's a work of unmitigated genius & even play it live sometimes!

Now that's a poorly-constructed sentence, James. No wonder you're not a famous lyricist. Oh, & if you could stop talking about youreself in the third person, well now that would be just great...



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I tend to fluctuate wildly when it comes to favourite or most-played Pulp songs. I'm going through an Freaks/Intro/MotU phase at the moment, but before that there was an It phase and a Separations phase. Not that I don't like any of the songs after; it's just some don't get a look-in as often anymore. The likes of 'Love Love' and 'Wishful Thinking' are rarely played now, for example, where before they were a staple of my playlist.



-- Edited by salmon92 on Thursday 28th of March 2013 12:37:16 AM

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anet wrote:

Whether it's one you disliked but now love, or one you used to love and then went right off, it would be interesting to hear.


Someone Like The Moon.  I used to hate it and believed that but for that song, His 'n' Hers would be the perfect album.  But when I listened to it walking down a dimly lit street at night with a full moon overhead, I realised I was very wrong about it.  Now it is indispensible.

Disco 2000 is one I used to like, but due to over-exposure I have fully grown to dislike it.  Comparing it to other Pulp songs of the time, it's all a bit lame musically and lyrically.  It's the sort of thing I would expect from a lovely guy architect.

That said, it is a great song to hear live, I didn't mind hearing it a couple of times this summer.

 



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Pink Glove. I thought it was the weakest track on His 'N' Hers (my favourite album) for years. But when I heard the Peel session version, I completely changed my mind and now think it's one of their all-time best. I still think the Peel version is vastly superior. The version on His 'N' Hers is not punchy enough or something. It's still great though.

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timahall wrote:

Pink Glove. I thought it was the weakest track on His 'N' Hers (my favourite album) for years. But when I heard the Peel session version, I completely changed my mind and now think it's one of their all-time best. I still think the Peel version is vastly superior. The version on His 'N' Hers is not punchy enough or something. It's still great though.


 Completely agree, that version is fantastic and is also the reason I changed my stance on Pink Glove.



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I just wish I was into sorted. Never liked it and I always skip it.

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Pye wrote:

I just wish I was into sorted. Never liked it and I always skip it.


 Agree 100%



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 Nice one. Freeze frame five!



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Yeah, with you on Sorted. I think I liked the keyboard part when it was first released. I enjoyed it live and all, but even when tuning into the recent bootlegs I skip it.

That aside, the more I listen to Pulp the more utterly integral I find Candida's contribution to Pulp's sound. I mean, they persisted without Russell, and yes, their sound lost a certain something, but nonetheless they were able to adapt; I wonder if they could have done the same, as successfully, had she left? Listen to Got to Have Love - it's only recognisable as a Pulp song (in its Jarvisless version at least) on account of her tinkering in the background. And when Pulp seek that kitch-cool quality, there she is, pushed to the front; at their most epic, cinematic, it's Candida's strings that swell and flood the stereo...

The sequins jackets never worked for me though.

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I used to find They Suffocate At Night, Something Changed and My Legendary Girlfriend really boring when I was a teenager. Now they are all masterpieces.

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