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keep watching...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ZyPcMmiwQ



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No! He sings about James Blunt Running The World but advertises BT and Reebok! Hmmpth!

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biggrin.gif  That's fantastic, never saw this before.  Doesn't Jarvis look lovely...



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fredthe3rd wrote:

No! He sings about James Blunt Running The World but advertises BT and Reebok! Hmmpth!


 

I don't think it's really too bad for celebrities to be used in adverts (one of the perks of being famous I suppose) and everyone needs money at the end of the day so why shouldn't you get paid for appearing on an advert for a few seconds? after all I suppose it's good publicity.

anyway could be worse - look at what poor Iggy Pop is doing now



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Don't get me started on Iggy Pop...

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This is why Russell left the band. wink



-- Edited by Holden on Friday 9th of September 2011 01:50:09 AM

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I never knew such a thing existed. It was enjoyable enough. That was a long time ago, right? That's definitely a pre-Hardcore Jarvis.

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Anyone remember the cartoon Natwest advert? I'll try and find it.

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He's in good company. @Mike - 1996
fredthe3rd wrote:

No! He sings about James Blunt Running The World but advertises BT and Reebok! Hmmpth!


You forgot Marc Jacobs

That thing with Eurostar, is that fine? He's working with Michel Gondry and I'm genuinely excited about that one.



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or the one where Jarvis hangs off a flying fox or was it a clothes line - was he advertising an internet provider?

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i think this is from 1996, the natwest one was from around 98, it was a cartoon of him, in his hardcore era spex. i can remember reading he hasn't happy about it. The BT one, he was hanging from a lamp post, this was around 2000 i think. I can also seem to remember reading that he was in the BT advert because it was made by someone who directed some of pulps music videos (hammer and tongs or something??) and it was a favour.

I don't see an issue with artists being in adverts. To me its just the same as being in a music video and as well as letting companies use their music in adverts and so on. Its their music, they are their own people and they can do what they want. I like it when pulp/ jarvis are on TV. Everyone will have their own views on this though...

Maybe the reason why he was in the reebok advert is i think reebok sponsored a charity football match that Jarvis played in in the 90s.

I could be wrong though.

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a bit of the BT ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF0fYkA4mbc

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select bt broadband 90 seconds to see the full ad

http://www.tongsville.com/cinemahtml/index.html

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Pye wrote:

i think this is from 1996, the natwest one was from around 98, it was a cartoon of him, in his hardcore era spex. i can remember reading he hasn't happy about it. The BT one, he was hanging from a lamp post, this was around 2000 i think. I can also seem to remember reading that he was in the BT advert because it was made by someone who directed some of pulps music videos (hammer and tongs or something??) and it was a favour.

I don't see an issue with artists being in adverts. To me its just the same as being in a music video and as well as letting companies use their music in adverts and so on. Its their music, they are their own people and they can do what they want. I like it when pulp/ jarvis are on TV. Everyone will have their own views on this though...

Maybe the reason why he was in the reebok advert is i think reebok sponsored a charity football match that Jarvis played in in the 90s.

I could be wrong though.


 

He also said at the time (although I have no source for this) that doing the BT advert paid for his flat in Paris.



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I'm not actually as upset about this as I came across, in fact I'm not very political at all - I even shop at Tesco to my eternal shame.

Anyway it's always nice to see Jarvis hanging from a lamp post!

Wait, that sounds bad again...

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thomas_bland wrote:
Pye wrote:

i think this is from 1996, the natwest one was from around 98, it was a cartoon of him, in his hardcore era spex. i can remember reading he hasn't happy about it. The BT one, he was hanging from a lamp post, this was around 2000 i think. I can also seem to remember reading that he was in the BT advert because it was made by someone who directed some of pulps music videos (hammer and tongs or something??) and it was a favour.

I don't see an issue with artists being in adverts. To me its just the same as being in a music video and as well as letting companies use their music in adverts and so on. Its their music, they are their own people and they can do what they want. I like it when pulp/ jarvis are on TV. Everyone will have their own views on this though...

Maybe the reason why he was in the reebok advert is i think reebok sponsored a charity football match that Jarvis played in in the 90s.

I could be wrong though.


 

He also said at the time (although I have no source for this) that doing the BT advert paid for his flat in Paris.


 Im in the wrong job then!



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fredthe3rd wrote:

Don't get me started on Iggy Pop...


Or John Lydon.  I do have an issue with artists that make a career out of being anti-establishment and then have no problem selling out to a bit of butter (or car insurance).



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Don't get me started on John Lydon...

"Bit of butter" - nice ring to it.

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Looks like I'm the only one who has a problem with it. If he'd done it earlier I could understand it, but doing it in the mid 90s just meant exploiting his fans by using goodwill owed to him to persuade them to buy something. There's no excuse really. Every time I saw it (at the time) I remember just feeling that he'd lost a bit of his credibility. "Everybody does it" is no excuse. However, if I didn't listen to anyone who'd done an advert then I'd have very little left to listen to.

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caetano wrote:
He's working with Michel Gondry and I'm genuinely excited about that one.

 Yeah I saw that the other day. (https://trainstorming.staging8.com/), seems like they're just making an advert though



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I personally don't mind if artists are in commercials or advertising, as long as they  can really endorse the product and the ad is tastefully done.  I actually think that Reebok ad is really cool, the BT appearance was rather funny, and who doesn't love Marc Jacobs??!?  If you were offered a ton of money in your own life to endorse something you use or enjoy, wouldn't you do it?  Why begrudge Jarvis the same opportunity to earn some scratch, with the added bonus of broadening his profile?  Like Pye, I enjoy seeing Jarvis/Pulp in any medium, as much as possible.

If a band/artist owns their own publishing they do have control over where their music is licensed, but it looks like Pulp has sold off their publishing with their recording contracts--probably makes for less divisive business management.  I've always wondered about this, after hearing from that Nick interview that they split all profits equally.  Jarvis must retain rights to his lyrics separately, though there's no copyright info on the liner notes to any of their albums...guess we'll see once Jarvis' book is released. 

I'm tempted to go off on Holden's Russell comment but I'll hold my tongue since he was kind enough to include a winky face. evileye.gif



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I just feel that licensing cheapens the music. What was once an expression of art just becomes devalued when it's used as a background soundtrack for pushing useless product onto a mass audience. It's heartbreaking when you can't listen to a song that had a real personal impact on you without thinking of Toyota Corolla or Depend Adult Undergarments or whatever. Or that someone you really admired is suddenly more concerned about pimping his own image and making a quick buck than about the music. Whatever money you'd make, whatever commercial exposure you'd aquire wouldn't outweigh the respect you lost from your devoted fanbase.

Um. Anywaaaayyy.. aww Although the Russell remark was a joke (didn't mean to offend!) it might not be such a stretch. After all, he said in that Guardian article a few years back that one of the reasons he left the group was because it became all about the "gold discs, condos, famous mates and people whose reality comes from cocaine, telling you you're great, night after night," and that he felt revulsion that one of the last shows he played was some "corporate gig playing for bored executives." It suddenly wasn't about the Common People anymore. Even Jarvis expressed regret in later interviews about how he became such a ubiquitous media darling during the D/C years. I wonder what he would think of this nowadays...



-- Edited by Holden on Sunday 11th of September 2011 10:04:34 PM

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Didn't Pulp not allow anyone to use Disco 2000 until after 2000?



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and didn't they say no to coca cola when they asked to use sunrise?
then i'm pretty sure coca cola ripped sunrise off, then they sued them!

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This rings a bell...

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