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Have a look over here - not much news, except a nice 1991 photo that I'd not seen before and an interesting addition to the tracklisting of It.

Apparently they've now gone back to the original master tapes, baked and remastered them to a high standard. I've heard a preliminary MP3 of the single version of My Lighthouse and it knocks spots off every other copy I've heard. Hopefully there are more nice surprises to come...



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How come there's no Everybody's Problem/There Was being included here? They might have actually sold some copies if they were included...

Still not entirely sure what market these are aiming for.

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I'd not seen that one either. I think its from the same shoot as that used on the rear sleeve of Countdown. Didn't the NME take them? Oh.
I'd love to hear something new or improved Separations- wise. It's one of the best! TIH? Balls.

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Stephen wrote:

How come there's no Everybody's Problem/There Was being included here? They might have actually sold some copies if they were included...

Still not entirely sure what market these are aiming for.



Fire don't own those two tracks - they'd have to license them from Cherry Red, which I guess might not be financially viable. I agree it would be nice to have them on there.

The market they're aiming for, presumably, is simply people who want to buy them. The old editions are out of print so it makes sense to refresh them.

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but i thought cherry red didn't actually own any rights to it which is why so few got released

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They own the Everybody's Problem single, but nothing else. That's why their It reissue got swiftly pulled.

If you're interested in the backstory, what happened was that Tony K (ex-Red Rhino boss, now sadly deceased) sold the entire Red Rhino back catalogue to Cherry Red in the early '90s sometime. The It album, of course, had been released on Red Rhino so they assumed that it was part of the package they'd bought, and thus they put it out on CD (mastered from vinyl as they didn't have the actual tapes). However, it turned out that Red Rhino had never actually owned that particular album - the recording had been originally financed by Tony Perrin, who co-owned it with Pulp and just licensed it to Red Rhino back in '83. Therefore in '94 Perrin teamed up with Fire Records (who also had some sort of claim on the Pulp back catalogue), stepped in and got the Red Rhino CD stopped.

Where it gets complicated is that Red Rhino did solely finance the Everybody's Problem single. Thus they owned the recordings, and the rights to those do indeed now sit with Cherry Red rather than Fire or anyone else. Want to do a reissue of Everybody's Problem on your own label? Then you can - just go over here and give them some money!



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That's interesting about the single version of My Lighthouse being released.

I know that the Cherry Red CD was mastered from vinyl (which is pretty obvious, as you can hear the static and crackles!), but were the Fire reissues also from vinyl I wonder? They definitely sound cleaner, but that may be down to the use of noise removal software? There are still a few tell-tale signs on the Fire CDs that suggest that they may have been from vinyl...for example...slightly tinny, worse quality on songs like "Boats and Trains" and "In Many Ways" which were at the end of Side One and Side Two of the original LP. I have noticed before that sound quality deteriorates slightly as the tracks get nearer to the centre of a vinyl record.

In which case, if they are indeed making the reissue of "It" from the original tapes, there may be a noticeable improvement in the quality!

I know alot of people don't want to put more money in the pockets of Fire but, if this is the case, the "It" reissue may well be worth picking up!

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Does the single of My Lighthouse differ much from the album?

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liltman wrote:

Does the single of My Lighthouse differ much from the album?

 There isn't a great deal of difference; the drums and backing vocals are a bit louder.



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LeoVK wrote:

I have noticed before that sound quality deteriorates slightly as the tracks get nearer to the centre of a vinyl record.

 I think that's because the grooves are closer together. The single version of My Lighthouse is better, more upfront.



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Just been on to the fire site and I noticed an error! LOL!! wink

 

Fire are so into Pulp, that they got Steve's surname wrong!

 

Now that's what I call dedicated to the band.



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Fire are so into Pulp, that they got Steve's surname wrong!

 Yup. And it was even printed incorrectly on all releases of the "Separations" album!



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That's great.  Join Fire Records, we're sticklers to detail! smile



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Just been on to the fire site and I noticed an error! LOL!! wink

 

Fire are so into Pulp, that they got Steve's surname wrong!

 

Now that's what I call dedicated to the band.

 This phenomenon is the genesis of my user name. Steve's surname was misspelled all over the place. Imagine how annoying this would be: Separations finally comes out after five years, turn to the rear of the sleeve and the buggers have spelled your name incorrectly.



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Yet another mistake!!

On the Separations listing, as a BONUS track, you get a new Pulp track called "In This House"

Can't wait for that! But I'm sure they mean "Is This House?"

Which, if I recall correctly, was a version of This House Is Condemned remixed by Parrott & Winston

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Haha. We may be able to forgive them a question mark here or there. Let's not forget that even Island misspelt (or spelled correctly, depending how you look at it) "Street Lights" on the His N Hers remaster.

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- The Cherry Red CD of It was mastered from vinyl, but Jarvis provided the master tapes for the Fire version. None of the Fire stuff is taken from vinyl as far as I know.
- Mackie / Mackey - presumably they got that from the back of Separations, which will have been a mistake on either Jarvis or Martyn Broadhead's part rather than the label. It's also misspelt in various ways on all the Gift singles!
- In This House - meh, typo, whatever.

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The question mark is not the err that I picked up on (But you're right, they did miss it out!), they have actually ballsed up the track name too!

They have put it as "In This House" instead of "Is This House"

And Island also made another error on the Second Class bonus CD
They put on the sleeve "Your's Sisters Clothes" instead of "Your Sisters Clothes"

But, hey! I'm not a nit-picker (or If we give it to Fire Records, I might be a Knit-Pickler) smile



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They have put it as "In This House" instead of "Is This House"

 So they did! Missed that. My apologies.



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No probs buddy!



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- The Cherry Red CD of It was mastered from vinyl, but Jarvis provided the master tapes for the Fire version. None of the Fire stuff is taken from vinyl as far as I know.

 Ah, that clears that up then. May give the CD a miss after all then.



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And now the release dates have slipped again, to 24th October... whatever could they be up to? biggrin



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Really...spill, Sturdy, spill!

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Sturdy wrote:

And now the release dates have slipped again, to 24th October... whatever could they be up to? biggrin

Not impressed, Sturdy! disbelief



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