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calumlynn


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Just realised that I've only ever heard the demo version of Ansaphone from the Different Class deluxe edition. I doubt it's much different, but could anyone upload the b side version to the baritalia account please? Thanks very much!

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Does this still count as commercially available material? I guess not... it's in 2007 account.

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actually the demo version is quite bland comparing to the other version, i' can understand why they didn't picked that one instead of the unfinished demo..!

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I prefer the finished version as well. I dunno why they put that on the DC Deluxe version, when they could have put something else on - dunno what though, maybe Roi de Fourmis or something?

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The demo version is intresting if nothing else. It's an alternative - there was - when I first heard it something I preferred about the demo but for the life of me I can't remember now! Maybe it was Jarvis' out of tune signing on it.

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sadly it's doesn't seem to be so much good demo stuff from the DC-period.. or to be honest not so much stuff at all, (idf so maybe it was a bit pint less to do a deluxe version of DC even though it's was pulps most successful album so i guess they had no choice) it's a bit sad but on a positive note there's not so much "why dint that demo make it to the album"-business.

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that's true. Most of the B-sides were remixes and live versions. They didn't write that much for it as it was all done rather quickly. There's still bits and bobs on the deluxe version that are worth having.



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calumlynn


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Wow, this version of Ansaphone sounds very much like 'I'm not in love' by 10cc!

Ta for uploading by the way.

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yeah, i wouldn't like to be without PTA, Don't lose it, Catcliffe shakedown, We can dance again and Mile end. Maybe the live version of Common people as well and perhaps Paula. Oh I've just mentioned nearly all track so i guess it ain't after all but the horrible disco-cover by Nick Cave and the CP-remix shouldn't been on.

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Ansaphone, the proper version, is gorgeous. So melodic (Oasis nicked the chord structure for the overblown All Around The World, Suede did too for their album track Lost In TV), I love the synths, the sad, resignation of the lyrics and Jarvis´ vocal is fantastic. Easily one of my favourite songs. I just wish it had been played live. It seems very much a forgotten track, I don´t recall any of the band members ever talking about it.

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I think it's a pretty generic chord sequence like! Non the less it's still a great song. When I was about 13 I remember my girlfriend told me that this was her favourite song ever!

How things have changed! I have a boyfriend now for starters!

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I hope it wasn´t your girlfriend´s love of the song that ´´turned you´´ !

And you´re right, it is a pretty generic chord sequence. The fact that the song sounds ten times better than the other two I mentioned underlines how adept Pulp were at making something special out of summat ordinary.

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Funny you should say that as i remember another converastion with her when she told me her previous 2 boyfriends had gone down the same road!

Anyway - she loved ansaphone and Jarvis. I wonder where she is now? I'll meet her at 2 o clock by the fountain down the road I think!.... (or on facebook!)

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weed wrote:

I think it's a pretty generic chord sequence like!


Exactly, the most generic one in fact. and to defend Oasis, All around the world was writtent in 1993, way before Ansaphone was released or even written. smile



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All Around The World was written in the 60s by Lennon and McCartney... Oasis just put the bits in the right order. ;)

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I actually haven't heard the 'proper' version. I adore the version that I have from the DC deluxe ed. Must look this up. I meant to ages ago. Absolutely love the keyboard at the beginning which I was informed on here is the Roland Juno 6. It's fab.

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You might be a bit disappointed at the keyboard intro on the realeased version!

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Old thread but do we know why they included the demo instead of the « proper » version, which was quite good

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I assume it was because they felt they didn't have much in the way of "previously unreleased" material for Different Class, compared to the deluxe editions of HnH and DC. They could have put the original version on along with the demo as it's far better but maybe they thought that was too much coverage for "just a b-side".

I'm so glad the proper version is on Spotify now. It's one of my most played songs of 2023 according to Spotify Unwrapped! Which made me listen to it on the way home last night...

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I have always said that it's one of their most underrated songs from this period. Stuck on the b-side of one of their most well-known singles whereas "Underwear" was both a b-side and album track, "Mile End" was on the "Trainspotting" soundtrack and "PTA" for me, is pretty average.

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Ian wrote:

I have always said that it's one of their most underrated songs from this period. Stuck on the b-side of one of their most well-known singles whereas "Underwear" was both a b-side and album track, "Mile End" was on the "Trainspotting" soundtrack and "PTA" for me, is pretty average.

 PTA is comfortably below the standard of anything else from that era. Well, except for Paula of course.



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I love PTA !

Its a classic Jarvis observation on society. Its fun.

As for Ansaphone released version, i'm surprised most fo you didn't hear it until recently. I've had the song on repeat since 96 ! But i was tracking every track back then, visiting all the music shops to get all the bsides :D

As a whole, Different Class is 10/10. If i remeber correctly it was described back then as a 12 track album with 12 singles, and it's true. And the Bsides are album track material.

Still sad that they never recorded We Can dance Again properly though, could have been a great track.

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I always found the subject matter for PTA problematic, even in the 90's. I think it's because at the time, I had a very creepy history teacher (I was at an all-girls Catholic school, for context). He never did *anything* but he still made my skin crawl.

Also I seem to remember from "Tim's Twitter Listening Party" for DC, Mark wasn't too keen on PTA either...

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SarahAWilson wrote:

I always found the subject matter for PTA problematic, even in the 90's. I think it's because at the time, I had a very creepy history teacher (I was at an all-girls Catholic school, for context). He never did *anything* but he still made my skin crawl.

Also I seem to remember from "Tim's Twitter Listening Party" for DC, Mark wasn't too keen on PTA either...

 

There's other songs like, Big Julie on Jarvis solo album. I see it more as a denunciation of the abuse of power of adults in schools, even though the song seems "light" melodically. 

These stuff happened, they still happen and we need to be careful, and kids / teenagers need to know they can defend themselves.

I don't think there was any need to hide it if the band was ashamed of it. I think we all have encountered weird people like that, i know i did. 

Pulp has a lot of disturbing lyrics. Not just this one. 

The other one that should be heard more is Cocaine Socialism (on a totally different subject, but still power eh). But I guess Jarvis didn't want to bury the subject so he came up with some more abstract : Running the World. 

 



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PTA is ironic, true. But it's still a bit uncomfortable to listen to, which is probably intentional I guess?

Not sure I'd call Running the World any more abstract than Cocaine Socialism, it seems pretty direct to me! Love the immortal "shit floats" lyric.

Big Julie I agree with you on. I think that one falls closer to Inside Susan than it does to PTA.

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