Voted for Leftovers. It just seems to be the track I choice to play if I haven't got time for a whole album. And it makes sense.

This was very difficult! But i voted for never said i was deep, because that song is the one that have listen to the most.. at least in itunes, but "Slush" and "Discosong" are also good

I voted for "Caucasian Blues." I think it's the catchiest song on here: It gets stuck in my head at least once a week.

I voted for the title track. Would have been I Never Said I Was Deep, but I've over-played it!!

So what's wrong with "You're In My Eyes"? I thought you liked the more disco moments

I'm clearly in a minority though, looking at that poll!

The first song is my favourite one, followed by Hold Still and I Never Said I Was Deep, both of which I have found myself whistling (after a fashion, I can't really whistle, but never mind).

I still really don't think much of this album, but bits of it are growing on me.

You're quoting what I said a little selectively there, but OK, I will elaborate. To me, it sounds like a pastiche of disco music, rather than something being played straight; I don't *think* it's a full-blown joke, though I'm not 100% sure, but I do think it's half-hearted; maybe he did put his whole heart and soul into it, but if that's the case then it was a bad idea to spend ten songs playing let-your-hair-down guitar music and then suddenly make a conscious effort to "go disco" right at the end. Further, I drew the inference, perhaps totally unfairly but it's how it strikes me, that it's being done almost as a throwaway, a knowing sort of thing, because he was mildly embarrassed doing that sort of song now and so had to dress it up in semi-tongue-in-cheek style instead of really going for it. I would cite Separations and the Gift singles as examples of brilliant indie disco music, and so any attempt to return to (or at least go back to the ballpark of) that kind of sound was probably always going to be found wanting. (By me, I mean - obviously lots of people disagree, which is what this place is all about, really).

I didn't cite those other songs for their melodies, I said they had infinitely superior spoken word bits which were called to mind by the similar, but considerably less good, bits in Discosong. I don't even think it's got that good a tune either, but this is probably more to do with me than any fault of Jarvis', as I spent much of the first couple of weeks after I bought Further Complications listening to a load of old Motown and Northern Soul records which really did have incredibly strong tunes, and it fared poorly in comparison.

But - and I'm really conscious about sounding like an arse here, having spent much text slagging off something you've just said you really like - variety is the spice of life. The last thing I want to do is ruin it for other people with my endless grousing. If you're all loving the song, and the album, more power to you, I'm insanely jealous; I just don't like it very much, but I really, really wish that I did. I think I'm just going to have to wait for the next one.

So the most hated songs are "Angela" (what a surprise), "Plichard" and "Fuckingsong". Doesn't look good for slush either...sadly.
Discosong is fine but Leftovers, come on!

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I think Further Complications is splendid. I find it a tad troubling that it wasn't the single. I heard a single, as opposed to Angela. I'm somewhat comforted to know Wes Anderson agrees with me on this one.

Why put Pilchard on the album when you've got Girls Like It Too? I don't want a taste, I want the whole thing, Jarvis! I think it sounds good, but in the end I'm maddened by it.

I love the honesty, and vulnerability in his voice, on Leftovers and I Never Said I Was Deep. The lyrics are very maudlin, but solid overall. I love how Jarvis conveys his frustrations in these songs. From one time to another I think everyone can relate to the feeling of not understanding why you want something, or if you should.

I bet Homewrecker is pretty great live. I perked right up when I heard this song. It's really gritty, and by gritty I mean fast & dirty. Gotta love that sax....and the devastating man behind it!

Hold Still doesn't really keep my interest for too long, but it's touching. The story behind this song is more interesting than the song itself.

Fuckingsong: where to start. It sustains my unwavering crush, and I appreciated his sentiment as well  *blush*  Just as Jarvis is surprised by...err...the sap rising, I had to remind myself that this wasn't the cheeky 32 yr old Jarvis singing. He is sort of ageless to me. Not aged.

Slush is gorgeous. I voted for it. Most surprised by it. Henceforth, I shall equate this feeling called love to melting into slush.

And finally....Death Goes To The Disco!
Rather surprised Discosong came out on top here. I can't get past the 2 minute mark. I would go as far as to say that it's a tad boring, which is a word I never thought I'd use in refrence to Jarvis. How is it live? Same length? I shutter to think how I would dance awkwardly just to get through it. 

Thanks. I was afraid it was long winded and I was too harsh on Discosong. It's not great but I guess I can't deny that I enjoy Jarvis' breahty voice on it. Just too bloody long. 

 I seem to have glossed over Caucasian Blues. I like the thought behind it, and how he elaborated on the annoying term 'credit crunch'.

Thanks. I think I'm really going to like this place. Love what I've read so read.

they both have exceptional vinyl packaging.  i can spot those spines on the shelf from like 20 feet away.

Am I the only one who likes F***ing Song? Gosh I feel like dirt.
Hello all by the way... my first post...greetings :)

I quite like 'fuckingsong'. It's just a fucking song. Does exactly what it says on the tin.

I don't have a fave song on this CD. This album is too blues and too rock for me. The previous album was far better. I'm disapointed.

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I completely understand where you're coming from, I felt the same way a few tracks in. I don't want to say better, but Jarvis (s/t) is the more cohesive record.

I was shocked when I first listened to Further Complications. I never expected I'd hear a more rock side of Jarvis,  (aside from Relaxed Muscle and beyond Fat Children)  but he pulls it off. It's progression, and I think he wears it extremely well. Even though I thought Jarvis(s/t) was near flawless, I would have been bored to tears if he made Jarvis II.  I wanted to hear  more songs like Fat Children on the record because it sounded so good on him and it was almost out of place (pleasantly so) on Jarvis (s/t), but I don't think he's one for a redux - of anything. 

Now I have Party Hard stuck in my head! "You have to decide, are you ready to rock?"

Speaking of MLG i listen to it yesterday, and re-discovered what a wonderful little song it is, I should listen to it more often. Oh and also, you can edit the songs in audacity and make it to songs, it really makes life more simple and less frustrating

I still think FC only has a few tracks that are really good (Never said, slush and disco) and i think i can live with leftovers, starting to appreciate the title track a bit more the rest is quite boring, very often the horrible "music"(or noise) ruins the lyrics, sadly. But some of the acoustic versions of songs like Further complications is more likable without the meaningless screaming..

Black magic is definitely one of my very top favourite songs...and Magic Works.. I agree is beautiful.. it could be my top #1 favourite song
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I'm a bit surprise that Angela has not had even one vote - it's not that bad!

 

Haha, silence is i think, the most common Pulp song that people hate! Not even Angela is..or is it? I mean Silence is, at least original... witch i don't think you can say about Angela.

Ok - someone is going to have to tell me where I can find this track (Silence). Please.

Bet you regret that now, Anet...

I'm in the 'not a fan of Disco Song' camp.

But weirdly love the Pilooski mix.

Gobsmacked at the lack of love for fluffing song - it's so catchy and clever!

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OMG! I was really hoping that in some kind of perverted way I would like this track - you know, supporting the underdog, going against the odds.................. but NO.

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 Ha! I actually thought it was going to a good deal worse than that.

That said, the milk I was drinking spurted painfully out my nostrils when Jarv first starts to wail.

It's okay: they were just finding their parameters. Just painfully thrashing around for their parameters. Silence is a document of their search for excellence. This is Hardcore probably cancels it out. It all balances. In the end.

Um.