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--Bumped this as it is being shown FREE TO AIR on at Sunday 20th of September 2009 18:30PM on Sky 3.  Available on Freeview.


An hour long program where Jarvis discusses his song writing.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/28/music-perfect-pop-song-pulp


For Cocker, the key to writing successful songs is not to aim for lofty artistic heights, but to look at what's around you. "I fell out of a window and was in hospital for a while," he says, on the formation of a technique whereby he uses local detail and observation to write songs that have the descriptive power of good fiction. "I was sitting in a convalescent ward with all these miners, and I realised that there was more material in looking down at the ground than up at the stars."

Such an ethos produced Joyriders, from Pulp's 1994 album His'n'Hers. Soon after getting out of hospital, Cocker was driving outside Sheffield one night when his Hillman Imp broke down. "These kids came up in a posh car," he says. "They were only about 15 so I didn't think it was theirs. I thought I was going to get mugged, but they were very nice, driving me to the nearest station and giving me chocolate limes, which I'm sure just happened to be in the car when they nicked it."

Real incidents do seem to form the seed of many classic pop songs. Just as there really was a rich Greek girl at St Martin's College, who inspired Pulp's 1995 anthem Common People.



-- Edited by ArrGee on Sunday 20th of September 2009 10:03:03 AM

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I watched this tonight as I discovered it was on Sky Anytime. It was really rather good! A bit of a rare insight into Jarvis' songwriting. Nothing much new to learn but it was really nice to see him playing these songs on his acoustic guitar (mistakes and all) and he obviouly really loves that casio keyboard that he wrote common people on!

I've listed the songs he played below. Scroll down to see it... I don't want to upset anyone who is looking forward to watching it tomorrow night when it is aired and who perhaps doesn't want the spoiler!

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Shakespeare Rock
Joyriders
Babies
Sorted For Es & Wizz
(a bit of) Common People
Something Changed
From A to I

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Does anyone know if there is / will be a way of watching this, for those of us who dont have sky?

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There is an annoying little "teaser" here : http://tv.sky.com/jarvis-cocker-songbook where jarv talks about the musical inspiration for 'Babies'.

Sky have a 'Sky Player' on their website. You can watch a suprising (for sky) amount of their programmes there for free on your PC but this particular one isn't there yet. You may be able to pay a fee to watch it online but I didn't check that far. I'd imagine it'll appear in the freebie section in due course!

The sky player is here: https://skyplayer.sky.com/vod/page/home.do

-- Edited by weed at 18:49, 2009-02-05

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when you say jarvis played the songs- how much did he play? the full songs?
thanks!

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Finally, months after performing it for the first time in 30 odd years at that lyric-writing lecture he gave in Brighton, we'll be able to hear 'Shakespeare Rock'.

Just have to check if Sky Arts 1 is on our digital tv package. Being the low-brow philistine that I am, I've never really noticed the channel before...

Fuck...it started half an hour ago. I hope those who do that sort of thing, will make this available on torrents/DimeADozen et al.

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I think it's on again later this evening, and then again, and then tomorrow again at some point...so I wouldn't worry!

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Hmm, I thought the same. Then I checked the tv and saw that we don't have the channel.

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zaqx wrote:

when you say jarvis played the songs- how much did he play? the full songs?
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Apart from 'Common People', he played the full songs, with mistakes and all! It was obviously the first time he had played a few of them for a long while!


I upgraded our bog standard basic Sky package for and extra £1 a month to get the channel and watch this. Then I watched it on Anytime (which erm... means you can watch stuff any time... press TV Guide then the Red button) although as mentioned it's gonna be repeated loads!

Anyway... I must stop this promotion of Sky and it's various services that ,until yesterday, I knew nothing about!

Mr Murdoch - Please make your cheque out to 'weed'.  




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Shakespere Rock sounds awfully familiar................

Erm, does anyone else sense Jarvis is getting back into a Pulpy kinda mood?

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Surprised there's not been more comment on this.
Can any kind soul make this viewable to those of us who don't have Sky Arts 1?

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Holy shit, that's a lot of Pulp. Reunion tour in 2010 plzkthx. And please actually come to America this time!

Can someone please put this thing online?

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Eamonn wrote:

Surprised there's not been more comment on this.
Can any kind soul make this viewable to those of us who don't have Sky Arts 1?

I only managed to watch this last night, and it was far better that I had expected, and strangely not enough.  Maybe Jarvis can do the whole back catalogue on acoustic guitar with commentary rather than any more special editions.  It would have been interesting for him to have discussed some of the Hardcore songs (The Fear and Dishes would have been interesting).

Many years ago, I caught Ray Davies on his wonderful Storyteller show where it was him a mic and an acoustic guitar going through his career from You Really Got Me to whereever he was in the mid-90s.  My wife to be noted a few older men in the audience whooping it up and said that would be me in about twenty years time with Jarvis.  Well, ten years or so on, this was getting there.

I had never seen the infamous Casio which Jarvis "composed" Common People on before, but lo and behold when he brought it out it was the exact same model I have.  I am now convinced Jarvis and I live parallel lifes.  Too many coincidences from Two Little Boys onwards.  There are lots of other things, far too numerous to go into here. Still at least I know that if I had formed a band what would have happened (umpteen years of struggle, but I'd have given up long before).

I have made a recording on my V+ box, so as soon as I make a recording I can put it up on a file sharing site, so you can make your own DVD.  I will post here once I have it (and put a link on baritalia2005).  It will probably be fairly big as I will have it in the best quality I can manage, so it will test your download, but will try and do a .wmv or .mp4 as well.  Just a matter of time really, I haven't got a great deal as work keeps sending me to far away lands.

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it was literally a programme about nothing but Pulp with a little jarvis solo stuff in the form of From A to I - Shakespere Rock is a little reminisent to I Scrubbed The Crabs That Killed Sheffield in my opinion - punky, cheesy, and just a gash but wonderful early pulp tune. That Casio keyboard of jarvs has taken a good bashing by the looks of it, haha has he secretly kept it for the sakes of writing a huge successful tune on it hehe

Jarv is looking old now.......... he needs to shave that bloody thing off though !


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Much appreciated ArrGee, whenever you get the time to do it of course.

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Forgot to mention, ive got it on my V+ box too - so if ArrGee cant get it done, ill have a bash once i get the right leads

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scottfrazer wrote:
Jarv is looking old now.......... he needs to shave that bloody thing off though !
My missus said he was looking old as well.  I don't know how anyone could tell cos with his hair, glasses and beard there wasn't that much to see of him. Anyway he is old.  Like me cry

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scottfrazer wrote:
Jarv is looking old now.......... he needs to shave that bloody thing off though !
I don't know how anyone could tell cos with his hair, glasses and beard there wasn't that much to see of him. Anyway he is old. 

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Don't you think that he would look yonger if he shave his beard off? It's quite strange that he's been talkning and singing about that he dosent want to grow old and then..gets a beard! Thats makes him look older.Any way i dont mind Jarv getting old..but that beard is not pretty

 



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scottfrazer wrote:
Jarv is looking old now.......... he needs to shave that bloody thing off though !
I don't know how anyone could tell cos with his hair, glasses and beard there wasn't that much to see of him. Anyway he is old. 
Don't you think that he would look yonger if he shave his beard off? It's quite strange that he's been talkning and singing about that he dosent want to grow old and then..gets a beard! Thats makes him look older.Any way i dont mind Jarv getting old..but that beard is not pretty
Maybe he has a plan......

When did you first realise?
It's time you took an older lover baby
Teach you stuff, although he's looking rough....




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Maybe he has a plan......

When did you first realise?
It's time you took an older lover baby
Teach you stuff, although he's looking rough....


 


 Haha good one.smile Yeah, maybe he has a plan. 

 By the way, is he older than Camille?

 



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just watched it - brilliant!

best bits for me were The Devil's Note and Jarv "correcting" the presenter on the first line of Something Changed

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ArrGee wrote:

Eamonn wrote:

Surprised there's not been more comment on this.
Can any kind soul make this viewable to those of us who don't have Sky Arts 1?

I have made a recording on my V+ box, so as soon as I make a recording I can put it up on a file sharing site, so you can make your own DVD.  I will post here once I have it (and put a link on baritalia2005).  It will probably be fairly big as I will have it in the best quality I can manage, so it will test your download, but will try and do a .wmv or .mp4 as well.  Just a matter of time really, I haven't got a great deal as work keeps sending me to far away lands.

I have an iso (use a dvd burner of some sort to put it on dvd but you can probably extract the video files from it by looking up google).  I had to compress it twice to get it below the 1GB limit for megaupload, so it may not be the best quality (unlike my pristine HQ version).  Details in baritalia2005 account (search forum if you don't know how to get to it).  Of course if anyone know where to upload a 4GB file (for free), let me know, as I have the original iso.  It will take ages to download, so kick it off overnite.

Will do a .avi you can play using windows media player as well, but too late for mucking around. zzzzzzzzz



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I can't find any link to this in the baritalia 2005 account...disbelief

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nisw wrote:

I can't find any link to this in the baritalia 2005 account...disbelief

err no, something has messed up.  Will check when I get back to base. But rest assured there is a copy ready.



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anyone got the megaupload link then?

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