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calumlynn


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Does anyone have a recording of this gig?


http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/Live051094AstonVillaLeisureCentreBirmingham

It was apparently broadcast on radio one...

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Great. Can you upload it? Please?

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Any chance of a trade for something else?



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Here's the England 1994 CD, which contains that concert plus a few bonus tracks.

http://rapidshare.de/files/39876767/England_1994.rar.html

Interestingly(?) the sleeve says "PERFORMED BY THE PULP" which tickled me back then.

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It is probably worth pointing out that for some reason the audio on the 'England 1994' bootleg has been slowed down. This has been mentioned a few times in the past.

I have just downloaded and listened to this version for the first time and it is really quite noticeable. It sounds quite strange, especially after having listened to the normal version.

For reference, the track times for the first nine tracks on 'England 1994' add up to 50 minutes 13 seconds, whereas for the normal version it's 46:32.

Nonetheless, thanks for uploading it James.

-- Edited by Will at 22:21, 2008-06-30

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Pye wrote:

Any chance of a trade for something else?





Err yeah, what sort of thing were you after? I don't really have any stuff that people on here don't have. Errr a presume you have a recording of the Theatre Royal Christmas gig? Think that's the only proper bootleg I have which isn't available on that huntingmusic website mentioned on the other thread.


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There is only one track I want and that is the Cukoo demo.

Does it actually exist???

The Aston Villa concert i have is CD quality and is not slow in any way.



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yeah, people have it.  it was up on the internet somewhere for a while, but i missed it.  now, everyone has turned quite protectionist about it for some reason. 

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The other (not slow) Aston Villa CD was Fiction Romance, wasn't it?
I'd really like that too if anyone can be bothered to upload it.

Hell knows why Eng94 is slowed down, maybe they had copyright(!) issues with the Fiction Romance people?

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calumlynn wrote:

 

I don't really have any stuff that people on here don't have.

 



People seem to come and go a bit. Only a couple of years ago I'd've said the same thing! But now quite frequently I seem to have odd bits other's don't, & vice-versa. & I had no idea Repressive Forkout was out there!



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Doubt it was a copyright thing with slowing down Fiction Romance - iit was a bootleg dude! They probably just had a duff tape.

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Like has been mentioned countless of times - The Cuckoo demo does exist. I should know....... along with a few other gems. ill uploaded a 30 sec sample later on - what have you got for trade? There used to be so many trades going on here - but it dwindled down drastically ever since JNK had that site up.

Maybe some people are scared of uploading stuff because of being treated like Trixy (c) did - and rightly so.

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ah, the trixy hangover continues...

well, Pulp-wise i've got some pretty standard catalogue: all materials commercially issued, three or four complete shows (Carry On Camping, Berlin '95, Get Frisky With, etc.), some ticket stubs, blah blah blah. 

i actually have a feature film coming out in early 2009, if you give Pye and me Cuckoo, i'll thank you personally in the closing credits? 

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Is there something you would want for a trade, if so name it... I can't promise i will have it though.

Your name in the credits to a film though sounds like a good deal to me!!



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I think I've uploaded all the rarities & bootlegs I have digitally over the last few months, but I've got shit loads on cassette. Leadmill '84?

If you can give me an idea of what you want to trade for Cuckoo, I'll do my best!

(Yes I know I totally forgot I had Repressive Forkout!)

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James wrote:

 

 I had no idea Repressive Forkout was out there!

 



 Despite the fact that I had it all along. Oh dear.



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Cuckoo sample
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGQXARO8

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Look, does no-one have the non-slowed down version of the Aston Villa gig? If no-one will upload it then I'll just use a music editing programme and alter the speed of each track so it's correct, and then re-upload it to here.

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There is no Aston Villa concert on a bootleg - its a slowed version of Fiction Romance - if you have that already, you have no need to tinker with it. If not, find it

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scottfrazer wrote:

Cuckoo sample
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGQXARO8



 That sounds really really good, thanks!



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scottfrazer wrote:

If not, find it





Or someone on here could just upload it for me? Oh hang on... stupid me.

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I have sent joyriders from the 94 Aston Villa concert to the baritailia account for you. (This doesn't sound slow to me). The thing is i have been collecting Pulp material for years and a lot of hard work has gone into it and i have spent a lot of money. I don't mind sharing as long as i get something in return.

Scott- If there is anything you would like to trade for the full version of Cukoo let me know. No worries if not.

andrew.pye@sky.com


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Pye wrote:

I have sent joyriders from the 94 Aston Villa concert to the baritailia account for you. (This doesn't sound slow to me). The thing is i have been collecting Pulp material for years and a lot of hard work has gone into it and i have spent a lot of money. I don't mind sharing as long as i get something in return.



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Oh thanks! There wouldn't be any way you could upload the version of O.U. is there? That's the one which I'm most bothered with getting hold of as the only other live version of O.U. I possess is from the Theatre Royal gig and it's not very good quality. So if you could send that one to the baritalia account then it would be most appreciated, and maybe I can one day help you out! Although if you've been collecting Pulp stuff for years then I admit that it is somewhat unlikely... but still, you never know.

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OU is in the baritalia account for you... Enjoy

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As has been said, I don't think the England 1994 boot is actually a recording of the Aston Villa Leisure Centre show - I thought it was a wonky copy of the Fiction Romance boot, recorded on the same tour at Alexandra Palace. I don't have England 1994, but I do have Fiction Romance, and it's great. Seeing as how it's not commercially available, I'll upload it tonight. Someone who's got England 1994 can compare the two concerts?

Edit: OK, I'm posting it in the baritalia2006 account.  It doesn't look like this is the account of choice any more, given the lack of posts in there... which one are you all using?  Anyway, it's up there now.

Edit edit: Except for His 'n' Hers, my mp3 of which is 12MB in size and Yahoo! will only let me attach a 10MB file. Balls. Suggestions?

-- Edited by Steve Devereux at 22:40, 2008-07-04

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'Fiction Romance' and 'England 1994' are definitely from the same source. On PulpWiki I have indicated that this source is the Radio 1 broadcast from Aston Villa Leisure Centre. Reading this thread, I must admit that I may have been wrong in that assumption. However, the BBC broadcast does seem the most probable source to me. The recording is good quality suggesting either an FM radio or soundboard source. There are very few soundboard recordings of Pulp in circulation, and it just seems too much of a coincidence that one would exist for the Alexandra Palace show, when a whole concert from Aston Villa was broadcast on FM radio just two days before.

Also, in the past, when trading recordings, I have found that October 94 shows labelled as 'Aston Villa Leisure Centre' and 'Alexandra Palace' have turned out to be the same recording. If 'Fiction Romance' isn't from the BBC broadcast, does anybody have a recording of that broadcast? It's hard to believe it wasn't recorded and circulated.

Does anybody have any thoughts?

-- Steve, thanks for the upload.

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Blur's headline set at Alexandra Palace was recorded and released on VHS, wasn't it? So maybe a soundboard recording of Pulp's set is not that unlikely.

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Furthermore, I didn't hear the original broadcast, but didn't Radio 1 usually intersperse their live concert broadcasts with station idents or DJs going "You're listening to Pulp live and exclusive on Radio 1" or whatever?

Interesting, though.  I've never seen a copy of England 1994, whereas Fiction Romance was quite widespread (reviewed on the original Space) and with the reports of the dodgy slowed-down sound, I just assumed that Fiction Romance was the "original" and England 1994 the imitator.

I should also point out that the Fiction Romance box makes numerous other errors, both in a potted Engrish biography of the band (I think it was made by an Italian bootlegger?) and in the tracklisting itself (it claims She's A Lady is on there instead of OU, f'instance), so it's perhaps not to be trusted.

Edit: I meant She's A Lady, not Razzmatazz.  Razzmatazz is of course on there, seeing as how I've uploaded it and everything. Doh. Sorry about that, it was getting late.


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yeah but Jarvis refers during the concert to the venue being " like a carpet showroom", and makes a reference to Blur too - so I am thinking that Fiction Romance is correct with the location, and that England 1994 is the same recording of Fiction Romance - but mislocated.

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On my copy of "Aston Villa" it has both OU and Razz. My copy doesn't have a name either. It is just labed Aston Villa 1994.

Also i posted the MP3s in the baritailia2005 account not the 06 account.

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Steve Devereux wrote:

As has been said, I don't think the England 1994 boot is actually a recording of the Aston Villa Leisure Centre show - I thought it was a wonky copy of the Fiction Romance boot, recorded on the same tour at Alexandra Palace. I don't have England 1994, but I do have Fiction Romance, and it's great. Seeing as how it's not commercially available, I'll upload it tonight. Someone who's got England 1994 can compare the two concerts?

Edit: OK, I'm posting it in the baritalia2006 account.  It doesn't look like this is the account of choice any more, given the lack of posts in there... which one are you all using?  Anyway, it's up there now.

Edit edit: Except for His 'n' Hers, my mp3 of which is 12MB in size and Yahoo! will only let me attach a 10MB file. Balls. Suggestions?

-- Edited by Steve Devereux at 22:40, 2008-07-04





Wow, thanks for this! The quality is really good, and they really seem to be on form. You could always upload His 'n' Hers to yousendit.com and post the link up here?

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I posted His n hers in the baritalia2006 account, but unfortunately it's 128 kbps, still better than nothing. I don't hear the difference, although i'm sure there will be...

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Blur's headline set at Alexandra Palace was recorded and released on VHS, wasn't it? So maybe a soundboard recording of Pulp's set is not that unlikelyIt was - I must admit I didn't know that existed. I agree that does make it more likely that a recording of Pulp was also made.

Furthermore, I didn't hear the original broadcast, but didn't Radio 1 usually intersperse their live concert broadcasts with station idents or DJs going "You're listening to Pulp live and exclusive on Radio 1" or whateverGood point. I suppose the bootlegger could have edited them out though.

yeah but Jarvis refers during the concert to the venue being " like a carpet showroom", and makes a reference to Blur too - so I am thinking that Fiction Romance is correct with the location, and that England 1994 is the same recording of Fiction Romance - but mislocated.But Pulp supported Blur at the Aston Villa concert too. Is Alexandra Palace "like a carpet showroom"? Possibly. But I think that comment could apply to other venues as well.

Anyway, basically I think it could be either venue. I will change what I wrote on Pulpwiki to make that clear.

By the way, I don't have a copy of the Fiction Romance artwork. Does it actually say the venue is Alexandra Palace, or just 'recorded live on tour' or something.

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Yeah, the boot just says "on tour in 1994" or something like that. No mention of Ally Pally.

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God that recording of Cuckoo Song sounds great!! Can't wait until it finally is in full circulation. I have a fair amount of bootlegs for trading, but nothing I'd imagine that's worth a Cuckoo! ;)

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agreed.  

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Steve Devereux wrote:

As has been said, I don't think the England 1994 boot is actually a recording of the Aston Villa Leisure Centre show - I thought it was a wonky copy of the Fiction Romance boot, recorded on the same tour at Alexandra Palace. I don't have England 1994, but I do have Fiction Romance, and it's great. Seeing as how it's not commercially available, I'll upload it tonight. Someone who's got England 1994 can compare the two concerts?

Edit: OK, I'm posting it in the baritalia2006 account. It doesn't look like this is the account of choice any more, given the lack of posts in there... which one are you all using? Anyway, it's up there now.

Edit edit: Except for His 'n' Hers, my mp3 of which is 12MB in size and Yahoo! will only let me attach a 10MB file. Balls. Suggestions?

-- Edited by Steve Devereux at 22:40, 2008-07-04


zip em all into one file and put em up on megaupload.com

one of the better free upload/download areas cos they don't get deleted ever!

 



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