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Trixy


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How do I upload an unheard pulp song?

you will love me for this

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www.megaupload.com

www.yousendit.com

www.rapidshare.de

just select the file from your hard drive, click on upload and share the link it gives you

simple :)

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Thanks for that Andy!!

I hope it's worked

Anyway here goes

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X5I9IESE

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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X5I9IESE

-- Edited by Trixy at 12:05, 2008-04-16

For some reason the link wont show...but it is there just go over the blank space with the mouse...oh dear!!!

-- Edited by Trixy at 12:06, 2008-04-16

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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X5I9IESE
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=x5I9IESE

Thats the best I can do it!!.....not to good with computers

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Thanks for uploading it. Sounds like something from the We Love Life era. Where is it from?

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No, thanx to you Trixy.

a new Pulp / Jarvis song is so rare these days, that it's a real pleasure :)

I agree, it sounds like an unreleased song from WLL, perhaps one of these early sessions we talk about so much on here...

I know i shouldnt ask, but... do you have more ? smile

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i can't get it to work on my work computer... can anyone help?

i can get onto the site, perhaps i'm just being a moron

ta

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Hey Thanks Trixy. I'm taking a bit of a stab in the dark here but could this be M'Lady from the early WWL sessions recorded in January 2000?

Where did you find it Trixy???!

I Will post it to the yahoo account for you weener.

Correction: This is in fact Chordy/My Mistake from March 2000 sessions for WWL.

Here's the pulp wiki page:

http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/DepotDemos

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Weener - I've posted it to baritalia2007@yahoo.co.uk password is baritalia

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Very nice! Thanks, Trixy.

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"is he going to hose you down tonight?
...mind my own business, yes, i agree, i agree."

a great little song.  almost the Paula of We Love Life. 

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Fuckin hell Trixy you little beauty...

And a Pulp song that's actually under 3 minutes (probably unfinished but still...)!

The keyboard bits seem recycled from The Quiet Revolution - pretty song on first listen. They really did go down the ''gentle pop song" route around this time, Cuckoo, Birds In YOur Garden etc.

I was always under the impression that the session that this demo comes from were instrumentals only - I wonder how much more of them had recorded lyrics...That much talked about We Love Life deluxe edition just got even more desireable.

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Indeed. If we assume that all the other songs from the Depot demos, like My Mistake, also had vocals (which obviously isn't certain), we could have as many as 15 unreleased WLL-era songs:

Darren
The Quiet Revolution
Cuckoo Song
Got To Have Love
After You
M'Lady
Grandfather's Nursery
The Performance of a Lifetime
St Just
Love You Baby
Six String
My Mistake
Last Song In The World
Medieval Owl
Dream Galaxy

That's more than enough to make up another album - an album that, judging by the few songs from the above list that we've heard, would have been very different indeed from We Love Life. I'd echo Eamonn's 'gentle pop songs' comment - somewhere around 1999/2000, there was a classic soulsearching singer/songwriter breakup album fighting to get out! I can see why a whole album of My Mistake/Cuckoo/etc might not have seemed appropriate for Pulp, but it's a shame they couldn't find some way of putting all that stuff out. Maybe even as a Jarvis solo record?

I still think they could have done a Kid A/Amnesiac job and finished all this stuff off for a quick follow-up album. Then again, they could also have put out a few more decent B-sides!

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Eamonn wrote:

I was always under the impression that the session that this demo comes from were instrumentals only

That's what it says on the Pulp People site where details of the demo were first leaked here. Maybe Alex just had an early tape from the sessions, before Jarvis had added his vocals (which, as we know, are always the last bit to be finished). Or... maybe this version of My Mistake is from another session about which we know nothing!

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Wow, thanks!
Firstly, is no one else thinking TV Movie?
Secondly, it's fantastic to hear a WLL-era song where you can actually hear the f**king keyboards!
Great stuff.
Really good lyrics too.
Also, I completely disagree that this stuff wouldn't have made a 'propper' Pulp album.

And how irritating is it that they didn't give us more propper B sides with all this lying about!
C'mon, Island, roll on WLL 2 disc re-issue!

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Thanks, it's pretty good. I thought "TV Movie" crossed with "She's Dead"...

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Where did get this track from then?!!

Is it going some file sharing network?

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Not bad, and nice to hear an until now unheard Pulp song...but to me it's just more WLL era fodder, and not particularly exciting. I know alot of people really like these tracks though.

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Thank you Trixy.

I've just transcribed the lyrics here. Feel free to correct any errors.

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Well I'm glad that went down well...

I will try and get some more for you..my brother is key to all this..but I know he has demos of most of the WLL period and other demos from way back...one song I heard, that I never knew existed was called "Take me to Tinsley viaduct"..it's quite old...I would guess around 93-4 because the next track is babies without any singing...and the disc has "The peace gardens.. Fon mix " written on it..and I believe the peace gardens are in Sheffield!

Anyway cheers everyone.....I will let you know on my poaching...If he catches me.....I'm dead!!...but we love Pulp...so it should be ours!!

Trixy



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How has your brother come across these gems...? Your real name isn't Saskia by any chance is it?? ;)

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No I'm not Saskia...!!

I just looked up Tinsley Viaduct and it tells me it is actually the M1 motorway..on the edge of Sheffield.....Cant think why anyone would wanna go there lol!!

Trixy x



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Trixy wrote:

Well I'm glad that went down well...

I will try and get some more for you..my brother is key to all this..but I know he has demos of most of the WLL period and other demos from way back...one song I heard, that I never knew existed was called "Take me to Tinsley viaduct"..it's quite old...I would guess around 93-4 because the next track is babies without any singing...and the disc has "The peace gardens.. Fon mix " written on it..and I believe the peace gardens are in Sheffield!

Anyway cheers everyone.....I will let you know on my poaching...If he catches me.....I'm dead!!...but we love Pulp...so it should be ours!!

Trixy


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*out of hiatus*

Tinsley Viaduct if my memory serves correctly is from around 1990/1991 rattlesnakes / death comes to town era - this was when babies was first written after Nick came up with the main riff. I think this also confirms the age too as I have the original demo cassette (well someone else in the thread has still got it ......ahem!!!) of Babies, OU, Space and Live On and the lyrics for Babies we far from complete and that was from 1991.

Trixie, if you can email me away from here - that would be cool - scott@chorley.fm

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Hi Scott

I'm not really up to scratch with dates of songs and demo's....maybe it's a mish mash of bits and bats..I'm saying that because the song My Mistake I uploaded for you was on a sort of compilation disc with a lot of older stuff...I'm affraid I can only go by what it say's on the disc.....

I will leave it to you guys to date it

Trixy

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Thats cool - you have found a gem big time - thanks for sharing that :)

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Trixy wrote:

I'm not really up to scratch with dates of songs and demo's....maybe it's a mish mash of bits and bats..I'm saying that because the song My Mistake I uploaded for you was on a sort of compilation disc with a lot of older stuff...I'm affraid I can only go by what it say's on the disc.....


Hi Trixy

If you want you could have a browse through the Pulp Wiki recording sessions section here - that might help you get some idea of what tracks you have and where/when they come from.

I can only echo what everyone else has said - thanks so much for uploading the track, I certainly never thought I'd hear it. Obviously if you wanted to give us any more of your wealth, you would become very popular around these parts indeed!

As for Take Me To Tinsley Viaduct... never heard of it. I can think of a couple of possibilities: it could be a lyric from one of the 99/00 demos that we've never heard, or it could be a song from a rehearsal tape that never got any further (what's the sound quality like?). As Scott says, Babies was being played live (with lyrics) by mid-1991 so that instrumental version is probably a rehearsal from the early half of '91. Either that or it's a mix that somebody took home during the studio sessions in '92 before vocals were added. Either that or you're having us all on wink

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That was a great track!  Thanks for uploading that.  My 8 year old son loved it and now wants to hear more Pulp.

These precious gems just need to get into the right hands so they can all get uploaded into baritalia2005.  I keep planning to make up extra Pulp albums rather than just leaving all these tracks scattered on a PC.

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i'm so jealous i haven't been able to play it yet, can't play wmv on my crappy work computer for some reason....

i may beat my friend around the head till she lets me play with her computer

but thanks trixy anyway!

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Hi Everyone

Well I hope I will be able to put something else on soon..

Thanks Mark, I will comb through pulpwiki and try get some clarity on the demo's....I'm not that clued up on pulp pre "his and hers"...and I have a feeling that some tracks were given names and then changed to be something that most people have heard...but as I have said before at the moment all I can go on is what's written on the disc or inlay....!!

Have a good weekend all

Trixy xx 



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Well I'm not sure if this is unheard or not but have a listen, it's called "about you"....it was on another demo, again with lots of well known tracks.

Trixy

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N0ZCSMID

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N0ZCSMID

the direct link is above the one Iv'e written out, so just click above it and bingo!!


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Bloody hell! Thanks Trixy, that is indeed very much unheard.

The song's actually called 'After You', another 2000 demo described by Nick Banks as an "absolute lost classic". With some justification, I'd say.

I'm not normally one to do the whole "Why didn't they put (insert name of unreleased song here) out as a single, it would've been a surefire hit", but in the case of this one, which languished in the vaultes while The Trees and Sunrise limped into the arse-end of the charts.... WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING?!

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that's just great. i don't think this sounds like anything else in the Pulp catalogue. We Love Life seems like it could have been a monster. is it just me, or do the lyrics on My Mistake and After You seem downright inspired alongside some of the stuff on WLL?

oh, and Trixy, you're the best. 

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Its a great tune and I have to say - its quite a commercial number and would have been a far better choice than Trees/Sunrise. Lost classic? Its not there with Death Comes To Town, BUT....its certainly a rocker....

Sturdy hit the nail on the head - what the f'in hell were they thinking (or jarvis more so) about shelving that? Id have gotten rid of Birds to have that !!! Trixy, if you have any questions about the demos - Sturdy (bygones?) and myself are very up on dates and what not, so dont hesitate to get in touch with us. Thanks so much for these Trixy, you certainly have made alot of people smile

Sturdy - do we think this is actually After You, or Disco Too Disco? As there is a reference to that in the lyrics, and im sure that there was a demo called Disco Too Disco at this time?

A relisten and im 90 percent sure its After You...lol

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i put it up as "After You" in the baritalia 2007 account. 

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sorry to double post - it is After You ....wasnt ever doubting it - just when i heard Jarv sing Disco Too Disco.......i thought hmmmm !!

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According to the demo page on the official site After You started off life as Disco Too Disco (and this is what it was known as during it's original demo - the same recording session where the My Mistake demo came from perhaps). It also says that another unheard demo, St Just, began as Disco Too Disco aswell which is a bit confusing.

Anyway...this song has been the holy grail for me since I read Nick Banks and Geoff Travis' ringing endorsements of it in Truth & Beauty and a Pulp People magazine. Rattlesnake, We Can Dance Again and now this all in demo form were all long-desired. Strange that with the click of a mouse (and a very kind heart) somebody can just unleash them onto the world. Thanks again Trixy.

The song is a lot different to what I expected - I was sure it was going to be a pretty, swooning ballad in the vein of Birds In Your Garden and Cuckoo. It's not only very different to those song but it's very different to anything Pulp ever released. Very modern, radio friendly guitars (at first I thought it was a Craig David pastiche or something!),so instantly catchy that it doesn't need a sing-a-long chorus. The lyrics are fantastic - both the actual words and how they fit into the rhythm of the song itself - "From Safe-way to Tes-co to the Se-ven E-lev-en". Could maybe have have been huge, would certainly have made We Love Life more loved.

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Ahh - i knew I wasnt going crazy!! Cheers for clearing that up - yeah the names are a little misleading, but at least we know its definately After You thats all that matters ! Im really interested to hear Candy's Sceptre to see how Bad Cover Version originally sounded

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Sturdy wrote:

Bloody hell! Thanks Trixy, that is indeed very much unheard.

The song's actually called 'After You', another 2000 demo described by Nick Banks as an "absolute lost classic". With some justification, I'd say.

I'm not normally one to do the whole "Why didn't they put (insert name of unreleased song here) out as a single, it would've been a surefire hit", but in the case of this one, which languished in the vaultes while The Trees and Sunrise limped into the arse-end of the charts.... WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING?!



I believe Island records became the ultimate downfall for Pulp. There was an interview a couple of years ago where Jarvis said that when the record company got bought out there was a change of management and the band had less control over their records. Island kep't banging on about 'Trees' and eventually settled for a double 'A' side with 'Sunrse'. Personally, I think it's a crime that 'Weeds', 'Mini Timperley' and 'Birds' weren't the singles from that album - but that's just my humble opinion.

I remember Jarvis also stating that he regrets 'Dirty World' not being on TIH.

As for 'After You' -it sounds great but perhaps (when you think back to the state of british music around 2000/2001) they thought it was a little too 'Craig David' to put out.

All these factors amount to songs being 'lost' or put aside for another day. Perhaps if it had been the other way round and it was 'Trees' that had just surfaced today we'd be grateful to hear that and wonder why it wasn't on the record.

Thank God for the internet! Long live Trixy! (I must buy you a drink one day!)




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Wow. That would've been the best track on the album, & probably Pulp's 3rd No.2 single (he joked).
No, it's a definite hit. I reckon they left it because of the obvious comparisons with Pink Floyd (electric rhythm) & New Order (melody line). But with those lovely keyboards (again!) & Jarvis' distinct vocal, it definitely sounds Pulp enough to me.
I disagree about it not sounding like any other Pulp material, tho'. I was thinking Countdown?

It also sounds a lot better sound quality wise than what I continue to refer to as Scott Walker's poor production on WLL. In fact, apart from that bit where it goes out of time, it doesn't sound like a demo at all...if what weed says is true, aren't Island pricks!! It could have matched Common People's success without much bother.

Still, I don't think it's too late, the musical climate seems to be coming round to this kind of sound again. Jarvis, get Pulp back together & release it! Please!

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I'd like to add my "Wow!" and "Thank you!" to all the rest. After You is great, and (at the risk of re-igniting the David Bowie argument) it reminds me of Stay from Station To Station, the vocal phrasing and vaguely Latin rhythm in particular. Great to hear some POP rather than plodding indie-rock, too...

Come to think of it, the opening is quite reminiscint of The Secret Life Of Arabia from the "Heroes" album too.  Of course the connection in Bowie terms is Carlos Alomar.

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The Idiot wrote:

I'd like to add my "Wow!" and "Thank you!" to all the rest. After You is great, and (at the risk of re-igniting the David Bowie argument) it reminds me of Stay from Station To Station, the vocal phrasing and vaguely Latin rhythm in particular. Great to hear some POP rather than plodding indie-rock, too...

Come to think of it, the opening is quite reminiscint of The Secret Life Of Arabia from the "Heroes" album too. Of course the connection in Bowie terms is Carlos Alomar.

-- Edited by The Idiot at 20:14, 2008-04-19


Wow, you took the words right out of my f***ing mouth!

 



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It's very naughty all this!

Great song.

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Thank you so much. Those made my day!

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James wrote:

Scott Walker's poor production on WLL.

I don't think it's particularly Scott Walker's fault, but I agree there's clearly a certain spark and freshness in these demos that is more elusive on the album (which I still really like regardless). My theory is that they just messed around with it for too long, over two years of endless writing, demoing and false starts and crises of confidence. By the time they finally managed to get the record finished, the whole project had lost the momentum it had at the start. If they'd just got on and recorded the thing properly when they wrote it in late 99/early 2000, it would have been a much better piece of work.

In fact, how's this for a theory: Pulp was a brilliant band that just could not make records. As a live band they could be tremendous, the songs were consistently great, the demos were always good, but whenever they found themselves in the studio doing it for real, they blew it. Overproduction, underproduction, bad choices of songs, crippling uncertainty over musical direction, you name it. Every album they made (with the possible exception of Different Class) falls considerably short of the potential that the material had.

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nah, TIH is one of the best album ever. I agree with your theory about WLL, that it could have been so much better if it had been spontaneous, but you cant apply that to TIH. It's fine from start to end.

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i agree with Sturdy. plus, the theory is enhanced by the fact that the only made six proper albums in twenty years. for whatever reason, albums seems to spook them. with the exception of Different Class, every album could have been better. that said, i'm really surprised at all the potential that was in the discarded material from the Depot Demos. i was expecting all kinds of Forever In My Dreams and Yesterday kind of stuff (which i didn't really care about.) i think they should have continued with the non-lp single option that they utilized in the 1980s.

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Just a request here : does anyone have the bootleg called "flu" or something, i had it on cd years ago but i lost it. Anyone would be willing to upload it ? that'd be great

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To react to After You : i was put off by the guitar sound at first, but after a few listens, it's definitely a hit. What the hell were they thinking....

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Anyone fancy working out the chords for My Mistake by the way? It's grown on me now! Heh.

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It's highly possible that the making of LPs "spooked" Pulp.  Live shows are all one-offs, but recorded versions of songs are taken to be the standard, and albums are supposed to be one's enduring statement.  It's understandable that bands could get nervy when trying to produce something which, in essence, defines them.  As great as the album format has been, there's a lot to be said for a return to individual cuts like in rock'n'roll and soul in the fifties the early sixties.

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Or maybe the fact that Jarvis is a perfectionist, and if something he didnt like for whatever reason - it got shelved. I mean, look at the scenario at the time of the potential Death Comes To Town / Dont you want me anymore single.....these were BOTH gems when demoed, and because of whatever reason FON didnt put them out, DCTT got remixed and Jarv wanted it on the Countdown single.......and the finished product? Shit. Simple as......Jarvis if i can recollect was against the putting out of the DCTT single as time had moved on, and he felt it was not " apt " for the time of release.

So maybe Jarvis's ego was getting the better of him and he was Pulps drawback? I know it seems harsh as if it wasnt for Jarv - Pulp would not be.....but you get my drift.......

Oh and because it appears to be the " in " thing with Trixie being a true darling and uploading some gems.....heres one, and its been under your noses for a long long time

The remake version of Sunrise - this was originally broadcast on the late great John Peel show on Radio 1 - but I got hold of the acetate of the demo it was originally on - all the songs were exactly the same but the cd had the Sunrise remake and Tree's radio edit. At the time, this was meant as the single release of Sunrise, and the album version was meant to be a little more mellow. BUT it was shelved, and the album version was released. Well, thats the story.......

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=51UE94DY


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^ I hear absolutely no difference between that track and the version I have from the album other than it's a tad longer.

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Significant differences in the instrumental

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This thread had me very excited until I actually listened to the song. Fairly mundane track if you ask me, like a second go at Grandfather's Nursery before they finally scrapped it.

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Significant differences in the instrumental



 Oh, well I didn't really notice until now.



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This thread had me very excited until I actually listened to the song. Fairly mundane track if you ask me, like a second go at Grandfather's Nursery before they finally scrapped it.
Do you mean My Mistake or After You? There are two songs buried in this thread!

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Significant differences in the instrumental



 Really? All I can hear different is the backing vocals, & less over-produced percussion. As far as guitar lines go I can't hear any different...I think it's a bit slower tho'?

& to defend my assasination of Walker's production: What about the out of tune bass shite that ruined I Love Life & Bob Lind?
A decent producer wouldn't have even allowed that, yet I seem to remember Candida commenting it was him who both suggested & actually did it.
Oh dear.

& don't get me started on the lack of keyboards on that record!! Again, more from Candida: "It annoys me almost to the point of anger".
Yeah, me too!
That's why I like these 'new' traacks, I guess.

 

 



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Just a request here : does anyone have the bootleg called "flu" or something, i had it on cd years ago but i lost it. Anyone would be willing to upload it ? that'd be great



 I reckon you probably mean 'Flux'. Sadly, I only have it on tape & I can't convert it to digital. (Even if I could find it!)

Don't worry, the sound quality's shite & the only tracks of interest are in the Bar Italia account anyway! (Quiet Revolution, Cuckoo & Blue Girls.)



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In case anyone's interested, there's a page for After You on the Pulp Wiki here:

http://www.pulpwiki.net/Pulp/AfterYou

I've just made a few changes to Will's initial attempt at transcribing the lyrics but there are a few bits I'm still stumped on.

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Sturdy, to me it sounds like "The scriptures will tell of a party in Hackney", which would fit in well with the mythical-sounding "When the horses roam free".

I've listened to the song about 15 times already, having had a bit of a train journey yesterday!

Hope this helps.



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And James, I think you're right. I've just updated it. Thanks.

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Ha, I was just about to change it to "the scriptures foretell..." when I saw you'd beaten me to it!

By the way James (and everyone) - in case you don't know, anyone can register on PulpWiki, it takes about 10 seconds and then you can log in and change/add to any of the pages. It's ace. A must for every Pulp anorak.

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Feel free to improve/expand what's there.


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scottfrazer wrote:

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Really? All I can hear different is the backing vocals, & less over-produced percussion. As far as guitar lines go I can't hear any different...I think it's a bit slower tho'?

& to defend my assasination of Walker's production: What about the out of tune bass shite that ruined I Love Life & Bob Lind?
A decent producer wouldn't have even allowed that, yet I seem to remember Candida commenting it was him who both suggested & actually did it.
Oh dear.

& don't get me started on the lack of keyboards on that record!! Again, more from Candida: "It annoys me almost to the point of anger".
Yeah, me too!
That's why I like these 'new' traacks, I guess.

 

 

 


I quite like the out of tune bass sound. I think the sound of WLL is great, because I like how each Pulp album has a different feeling. I don't miss the keyboards because there were plenty on almost every one of their other albums, but as a musician I can sympathize with Candida. That would annoy me too. I guess the elements that made up WLL didn't call for synth or wavy keys, but rather more EBow and Guitar.


 



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In fact, how's this for a theory: Pulp was a brilliant band that just could not make records. As a live band they could be tremendous, the songs were consistently great, the demos were always good, but whenever they found themselves in the studio doing it for real, they blew it. Overproduction, underproduction, bad choices of songs, crippling uncertainty over musical direction, you name it. Every album they made (with the possible exception of Different Class) falls considerably short of the potential that the material had.
Given that Pulp made four great albums from His 'n' Hers (possibly most Pulp fans' favourite) through to We Love Life, the theory is rubbish. If anything I would say Different Class falls short of its potential with some average tracks like Disco 2000, Misshapes and Something Changed.  From My Legendary Girlfriend on they made some of the best records I've ever heard until they finished.  

Ok, maybe they spent too long getting records out, perhaps there are superior live versions and demos of some of the songs, and another album or two would not have gone amiss, but to have consistently produced such good music for about 10 years takes some doing.  I was never disappointed by any Pulp release, even though the songs were more familiar in their live versions at the time (unlike Jarvis - I just don't like it, and time just makes it less likeable).

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If anything I would say Different Class falls short of its potential with some average tracks like Disco 2000, Misshapes and Something Changed.
 Outside, now.

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Different Class lacks so much of the sparkle and epic feel of His n Hers. It's got great songs but the production is so safe, almost stodgy sometimes- with the exception of FEELING CALLED LOVE, I suppose. It seemed like a bit of a step back to me, almost in to the realms of indie standard territory. But that's just my opinion. I just want to hear Rattlesnakes. I've been trying to for a long time: (

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I just want to hear Rattlesnakes. I've been trying to for a long time: (



Someone should really tell him.


 

I agree the production on DC lacks the feel of HnH (or TIH), but they were trying to avoid making their pop anthems sound like stadium rock!

Production wise, HnH is always my best, although Hardcore slaps it about with a wet fish musically.

I'd've loved to hear what We Can Dance Again & The Boss would have sounded like produced by Ed Buller.

Then again it may have more to do with the attitude of the band - Buller-produced Babies I think would sound more at home on Thomas-produced DC. It's a wonderful song, but doesn't fit with the rest of the album. Maybe they shoulda left it on the Sisters EP & replaced it on HnH with "insert reissue track here".

I think I'd've gone with You're Not Blind out of the material available at the time, but if Pulp had a Tardis, it'd be We Can Dance Again!

As much as I love The Boss, I don't know where you'd put it on HnH! I agree that a few non-album singles wouldn't've gone amiss......& still wouldn't!


 

 



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I think Seconds is an album track really but maybe they wanted to avoid having another overly earnest underdog anthem on there as they already had Have You Seen Her Lately and Happy endings etc. I just don't listen to TIH anymore- haven't since it came out really aside from the title track and The Professional. It's just Bowie pastiche to me, right down to directly emulating his voice on Party Hard and all that Ebow- shut up with the Ebow!! By the way am I deluded about Rattlesnakes? Is it a myth? ARRRRGhh he heh.

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I think Seconds is an album track really but maybe they wanted to avoid having another overly earnest underdog anthem on there as they already had Have You Seen Her Lately and Happy endings etc. I just don't listen to TIH anymore- haven't since it came out really aside from the title track and The Professional. It's just Bowie pastiche to me, right down to directly emulating his voice on Party Hard and all that Ebow- shut up with the Ebow!! By the way am I deluded about Rattlesnakes? Is it a myth? ARRRRGhh he heh.


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Wouldn't say TIH is my all time No.1, that's Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, but it's definitely my No.1 90's album. (It very very narrowly noses ahead of HnH because of the title track.)

Rattlesnakes, or 'Rattlesnake', as it turned out, definitely does exist.

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Here you go then, Sleeve, I've uploaded it for you...

http://rapidshare.de/files/39219519/04_rattlesnake.mp3.html

Paste that in your browser & listen to Rattlesnake.

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Do you mean My Mistake or After You? There are two songs buried in this thread!

 



 ...erm... my mistake...


Listening to "After You" right now...

It's good.


I'm not blown away by it though. It's refreshing to hear a catchy hook in a Pulp song again, since Jarvis seemed to almost willfully avoid hooks on both TIH and WLL. It's definitely better than most of the material on WLL, but then, I'm probably WLL's biggest detractor on this board. 


And yes... I do think this song turned up here as part of a promotional campaign for Jarv's next move, whatever that move might be. "Trixy" might not even be aware that she's part of a viral marketing campaign. That's how these things work, you know. Welcome to the 21st century.

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Fuss Free post more, I've missed your cynicism.

-- Edited by Eamonn at 23:32, 2008-04-24


Eamonn...

 I'm not sure whether I should thank you or apologize to you. :)

I haven't been frequenting the message boards much lately. I'm just not that into music right now. I guess you could say I've "found new avenues of self-expression" or something.

Pulpqueenie and I are thinking about taking a roadtrip to chicago to see Jarvis at the Pitchfork Festival, and I think I can get backstage passes through some contacts there... and yet... even that doesn't have me too excited.



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I thought of making that trip also.......why will he not come to Toronto!
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And yes... I do think this song turned up here as part of a promotional campaign for Jarv's next move, whatever that move might be. "Trixy" might not even be aware that she's part of a viral marketing campaign. That's how these things work, you know. Welcome to the 21st century.
Normally, they can't do a straight forward marketing campaign. Never mind a fucking 'viral' one!


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Normally, they can't do a straight forward marketing campaign. Never mind a fucking 'viral' one!

-- Edited by weed at 09:56, 2008-04-25

 


 Viral campaigns are easy and free... like... you just have someone drop an ultra-rare mp3 online and make sure the fan messageboards know where to find it! Then someone sends an email to the NME. Then The Sun reads the NME, then people all over the world start texting each other, seemingly spontaneously: "OMG! Remember that band Pulp!? New song online! <3 them!"

It helps to have a cover story like "I stole these from my brother, I hope he doesn't find out because I'll get in big trouble!"

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sshhh, dont scare her or we might never get new songs


I know it wont happen, but i hope Jarv reworks After You for his new album. It feels like it could fit with Girls Like It Too, and it would make the new album a bit more "pulpy".

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Despite what everyone else thinks, I'm still far from convinced it's not going to be a Pulp album.
Especially as, as you say, Girls Like It Too sounds very 'Pulpy'...
Although they've never rescued an old demo before, (no, wait, didn't that happen to Happy Endings?) it's just such a good song! Even more of a classic than Live On, I reckon. They'd be mad (& cruel!!) not to.

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maybe, maybe not, we'll see.

though, to add to you theory, there's something weird about those tracks. They are tagged "unknown album 26/11/2007". Isnt this weird considering Trixy apparently ripped those tracks the last few days ?

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that might be the ripper remembering older values, though ...

andy wrote:

maybe, maybe not, we'll see.

though, to add to you theory, there's something weird about those tracks. They are tagged "unknown album 26/11/2007". Isnt this weird considering Trixy apparently ripped those tracks the last few days ?

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seems weird, coz usually, rippers put the date the computer has.

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Jesus Crikey!!

This is not....and I repeat not!! a marketing kind of thing..... god damn!!

The tracks I uploaded were on my brothers computer, and the title is...unknown album.

I even had to ask how to upload the buggers from Andy!!!!

But all this has freaked me out, I thought I was doing you a favour....silly me!!

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^^^Don't pay attention to that stuff Trixy. I just want to personally thank you for sharing those tracks with us. They were really great!

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^^^Don't pay attention to that stuff Trixy. I just want to personally thank you for sharing those tracks with us. They were really great!



 



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Once more, well done.

(Sound of slow, sarcastic handclaps).

Is it a Bar Italia tradition, now, that when people claiming to be connected with the band show up - even people giving away entirely unexpected gifts you've been asking for for years - it's de rigeur for half of you to act the twat, with bonus points if you successfully convince the person never to come back again?

Honestly, I leave the forum alone for ONE FUCKING WEEK and people think it's fine to start accusing someone they've never met, who just gave them the most sought after Pulp song still left in the wild, of being a viral marketer. Do I have to start babysitting this place 24/7 or something? There have been trippings aplenty of the arse-o-meter in this thread.

Jesus, people.

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Once more, well done.

(Sound of slow, sarcastic handclaps).

Is it a Bar Italia tradition, now, that when people claiming to be connected with the band show up - even people giving away entirely unexpected gifts you've been asking for for years - it's de rigeur for half of you to act the twat, with bonus points if you successfully convince the person never to come back again?

Honestly, I leave the forum alone for ONE FUCKING WEEK and people think it's fine to start accusing someone they've never met, who just gave them the most sought after Pulp song still left in the wild, of being a viral marketer. Do I have to start babysitting this place 24/7 or something? There have been trippings aplenty of the arse-o-meter in this thread.

Jesus, people.

I second that!

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thirded.

saw this coming though. and you just know the next one was going to be Cuckoo before we frightened her off...

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Ohh, that's been out there for years. And I'm talking about the demo not the live version!

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Where then ?

Trixy, dont take it so bad. Doubting is good, i think, in that kinda situation. You never know who's on the other line right ? Record companies would do anything to sell records off artists' back, but that doesnt mean we dont believe you.

I personally believe yiou and appreciate you taking time to upload those stuff, but i would understand you'd never want to share other stuff again.

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